[opjose]

It is documented here


Read 1B file app https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1301384

[Nickbg]

Originally Posted by opjose

It is documented here


Read 1B file app https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1301384

Apologies for asking what might seem a dumb question ..... I thought the enet cable was ethernet one end and OBD the other and not USB.

What cable to i need to extract this file?

Cheers
Nick

[Nickbg]

OK after much frustration, I purchased the fsc code, and downloaded the maps, BUT the car still does not prompt me for the fsc code to update the map.

The usb port in the glovebox works as i have transferred music to the hard drive.....

Do you think this needs a CIC update ?

Any ideas gratefully received

Nick

[shawnsheridan]

Originally Posted by Nickbg

OK after much frustration, I purchased the fsc code, and downloaded the maps, BUT the car still does not prompt me for the fsc code to update the map.

The usb port in the glovebox works as i have transferred music to the hard drive.....

Do you think this needs a CIC update ?

Any ideas gratefully received

Nick

CIC Firmware is E89X-09-06-510, which does not support USB Update. Need DVD version to make update or update CIC Firmware.

[Fonta]

Had to download the 1b.zip file a couple of times because of corrupt downloads.
3rd time I was able to successfully unzip it.
After that it worked like a breeze!

[apirumann]

How long does it take the update the maps? 2-3 hours? Does the car need to be running?

[opjose]

About 40-55 minutes.

The car does not have to be running, but if the engine is off it may shut down after 10-15 minutes stopping the upload.

[apirumann]

Originally Posted by opjose

About 40-55 minutes.

The car does not have to be running, but if the engine is off it may shut down after 10-15 minutes stopping the upload.

I did this yesterday. Like you said, it took less than an hour. I upgraded to 2020 Maps following the guide below

My engine was not running and the car did not shut down. It was not even on accessory. Insert the key, Navi turns on, wait 30-45 secs, then insert the usb stick, enter code and wait.

To minimize battery drain, I turned all the interior lights and headlights off (0), disconnect my radar detector, and shut the glove box but left the passenger door open just in case. I could have dimmed the navi screen but did not think of it at that time.

[ndp]

Here's my current situation. New to me 2009 E92 328i with the CIC.

Per the VIN decoder, has "S609 Navigation System Professional" optioned. Under the navigation version shows "NA / BMW / 1.2.8 / Road Map North America PREMIUM 2009-1".

Now I'm stuck on getting the 1b.hex file from the vehicle. I've tried using the "copie_scr.sh" in both that Youtube video and this thread's OP. Tried flashdrives from Lexar, Memorex, PNY, Kingston, and a handful of generics I have around the house. Always in the glovebox USB port, always plugging in after the navigation system fully loads. Tried with the car on and the car off.

The previous owner also gave me the service records, and on it's last visit to an independent BWM shop earlier this year lists a line item "Update computer program control unit" - supposing that's a firmware upgrade?

Does anyone have a clue what I'm missing here, or am I going to need to buy an e-net cable and do the FTP method? I'd really love to get a more current map, many roads around me are wrong.

[opjose]

Does your CIC show the check mark?

If not the script will not work.

[ndp]

Originally Posted by opjose

Does your CIC show the check mark?

If not the script will not work.

Nope, it does not. Suppose I need the enet cable?

[opjose]

Originally Posted by ndp

Nope, it does not. Suppose I need the enet cable?

You will not be able to update the maps via USB until the CIC firmware is updated.

[neilvan]

This is my second time around and I can not still get it to work.

Car is a 2007 335 w/ factory CCC (FV75383)
CIC unit/swap is from a 2009(A406309)
Unit has been coded to the car and working(other than nav obvs which is greyed out)
The CIC has C16 firmware on it.

This happened last year when I tried the 2018 and 2019 maps and now again this year with the 2020s. When I try to plug in the FSC activation it just gives me invalid code. Any ideas/is there anything obvious that I'm doing wrong?

[opjose]

Did you download the persistence file via Ethernet to make the 1b.hex file?

Also as I understand it the new CIC must have navigation enabling FSC codes installed that are consistent with the car, not just coding.

A transplanted CIC must be updated to correspond to the security descriptors in the target car and the build date of the target (your) car must be changed to at least the date that the CIC usb update first became available... e.g 7/2010.

Does your CIC show the check mark?

Does the map upload start and does it then wait for the FSC code?

[neilvan]

Not sure what "persistance file" is but I used what was in the "1b.zip" at the start of this thread. (I'm usually better with mechanical stuff that on computers)

I believe when I used ncsexpert to code the CIC in I used the build date of 09/10 (as combox retrofix is in the future)

I do not have an emulator so I think script activation is what I need to do first?

Where would the CIC show a checkmark? My navigation is greyed out and I cannot get into any part of it in the car.

When I put the maps into the glovebox USB I get a message that newer maps are detected. Continue and it asks me to input the FSC code which has always been incorrect

[opjose]

The 1b.zip file is used to download a data file from your factory set up CIC.

The resulting file will not necessarily correspond to your vehicle as you have a retrofit on a older non supported vehicle.

The Generalpersistence file must be obtained using an Ethernet cable as mentioned previously and is more likely to be consistent with your transplanted CIC.

The 1b.zip does not work with most transplants.

Also the fact that your navigation is not working indicates the CIC has not been "coded" and authorized for your vehicle which might be the bigger problem.

An FSC code is required to authorize navigation and then a different code is needed for the map itself.

The code generators do not work with emulators too.

[fatjoez]

I have the same issue as neilvan
2007 e90 - ccc with retrofitted CIC (2015 maps).

Invalid FSC code when I tried to update because it is retrofit.

I received advice from a BMW enthusiast who said that we should be careful about updating Maps on retrofit CIC because the installer may have used different methods to setup the CIC such as script activation or emulator activation.

They advised me that depending on on the activation method updating via USB might break the navigation entirely.

Anyone have any clarification on this?

[smass]

Originally Posted by Nickbg

Still no luck, but good suggestion. Not sure where to go from here.

Cheers
Nick

Go buy (or find in a drawer) a few different brands of small cheap USB drives. The larger, more expensive ones I have don't work for things like this.

[neilvan]

Originally Posted by fatjoez

I have the same issue as neilvan
2007 e90 - ccc with retrofitted CIC (2015 maps).

Invalid FSC code when I tried to update because it is retrofit.

I received advice from a BMW enthusiast who said that we should be careful about updating Maps on retrofit CIC because the installer may have used different methods to setup the CIC such as script activation or emulator activation.

They advised me that depending on on the activation method updating via USB might break the navigation entirely.

Anyone have any clarification on this?

I did some more reading and ya it seems to be as Opjose has said; The Vins arnt matching.

Other than an emulator it looks like we have 2 options: virginize+ script activation or a patcher.

Patcher is easiest but needs C1A firmware which means Ill need an update since I'm C16. Need an ICOM cable too but those are lots of $$ for a genuine one.


But yes I "coded" it to my vehicle. Just adding CIC into the VO and then updating the modules for the CIC is all that I've done so far

[opjose]

Virginizing will produce the best results long term and permit you to apply map updates at will.

As you have discovered VO coding is not sufficient to get things working.

There are tools that may help... Hint: look for "software help yourself" here, but I have not used the FSC patcher/generator included there.

[neilvan]

Originally Posted by opjose

Virginizing will produce the best results long term and permit you to apply map updates at will.

As you have discovered VO coding is not sufficient to get things working.

There are tools that may help... Hint: look for "software help yourself" here, but I have not used the FSC patcher/generator included there.

To virginize can I use a K+Dcan cable or do I need ICOM? Will I need to update to C1A?

I'm not super computer tech but I can get by and follow instructions. Or is it better to pay someone to do all that for me? I can build engines and full cars but my father asked for the CIC retrofit on his; so here I am lol

Also that "software help yourself" is absolute gold! thanks!

[opjose]

Sorry I do not know the procedure to do that.

Updating to C1A is not a bad idea albeit it has one drawback I can't recall.