Supercharger stuff (MILVs+AA+BPC)

Noir · 09-10-2018, 10:26 AM

Seattlesquash

did you bonafide just place the included cone filter on the hard plastic piece?

....

gonna have to do this tonight for some piece of mind. gonna catch a bit of Florence later this week. Got ya boi scurrrrd. Hoping for the best. :/

CobraMarty I'm guessing I dont have that pipe because I got one of the older e90s :d

Seattlesquash · 09-10-2018, 11:01 AM

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Seattlesquash

did you bonafide just place the included cone filter on the hard plastic piece?

....

gonna have to do this tonight for some piece of mind. gonna catch a bit of Florence later this week. Got ya boi scurrrrd. Hoping for the best. :/

CobraMarty I'm guessing I dont have that pipe because I got one of the older e90s :d

Yes it fits, right on, with a 5% bend tops and I cut plastic tab off headlight cover to get more room and was only there to grab as handle. See pic! Wish I didn't go crazy with all other options for 1/3 of a day!

Noir · 09-10-2018, 11:34 AM

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Seattlesquash

did you bonafide just place the included cone filter on the hard plastic piece?

....

gonna have to do this tonight for some piece of mind. gonna catch a bit of Florence later this week. Got ya boi scurrrrd. Hoping for the best. :/

CobraMarty I'm guessing I dont have that pipe because I got one of the older e90s :d

Yes it fits, right on, with a 5% bend tops and I cut plastic tab off headlight cover to get more room and was only there to grab as handle. See pic! Wish I didn't go crazy with all other options for 1/3 of a day!

whew cool beans. I need to do that and (temporarily) patch my driver side hood vent just in case we gotta evac

Seattlesquash · 09-10-2018, 02:09 PM

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Seattlesquash

did you bonafide just place the included cone filter on the hard plastic piece?

....

gonna have to do this tonight for some piece of mind. gonna catch a bit of Florence later this week. Got ya boi scurrrrd. Hoping for the best. :/

CobraMarty I'm guessing I dont have that pipe because I got one of the older e90s :d

Yes it fits, right on, with a 5% bend tops and I cut plastic tab off headlight cover to get more room and was only there to grab as handle. See pic! Wish I didn't go crazy with all other options for 1/3 of a day!

Another thing, I had to do slightly different was that mine has PCV at back of engine and no connection on intake manifold, so I picked up a longer 5/8 hose and ran it all the way back to engine/connection. Was a bit confused for a while but think I got it right, and was logical I think/hope, to re-route it as such since I did not have a connector to make the Y part as short as for their version.

CobraMarty · 09-10-2018, 04:49 PM

Here is something I was playing with using CAD.
The runners and IM plate are angled down 20* so the IC box will be level horizontal like the S55.
The TB would bolt on the bottom upside down, pointing upwards.
A silicone tube would come out of the SC and then 90* up to TB.

Sorry for the large pictures, I just learned how to use imgur and my cell phone for photos.

Noir · 09-10-2018, 05:53 PM

i was thinking about that today.. where would you source that intercooler to put in the manifold?

Seattlesquash · 09-10-2018, 05:56 PM

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The 2 'gold' color bolts/plugs on top are the fill.

The drain is the plug on the bottom that you can see in this picture peeking thru.

Yes, I see that what I wonder is when I take plug out will supplies hose fit directly since it looks like female to female, or did I lose a nipple? Thanks Marty

CobraMarty · 09-10-2018, 06:14 PM

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i was thinking about that today.. where would you source that intercooler to put in the manifold?

Garrett or Volant. Even ebay has some cores.

Of course this would be a water to air IC.
Core would be 18"x6"x3.5". If it fits.
If it doesn't fit, I could cut it down to 12"wide x4-6"tall x4-6"thick.

I really need about a 16" wide IC but that would have to be a custom built piece.

I've built intercoolers in the past and used Spearco's at that time.

Noir · 09-10-2018, 06:39 PM

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i was thinking about that today.. where would you source that intercooler to put in the manifold?

Garrett or Volant. Even ebay has some cores.

Of course this would be a water to air IC.
Core would be 18"x6"x3.5". If it fits.
If it doesn't fit, I could cut it down to 12"wide x4-6"tall x4-6"thick.

I really need about a 16" wide IC but that would have to be a custom built piece.

I've built intercoolers in the past and used Spearco's at that time.

I need to look up how it functions... would be so cool to have. I'd help put money down for your R&D if you think it'll bear some sweet sweet fruit. Thats frickin' awesome.

CobraMarty · 09-11-2018, 12:29 PM

Looking closer there is not much room in the back of the intake manifold. I 'shortened' my CAD (cardboard aided design) in the back and slightly in the front.
Now use a 12"x6"x3.5" core and IC end tanks are built into the design.

Noir · 09-11-2018, 10:22 PM

CobraMarty would the intake be crafted from plastic or metal? Silly question... Curious. With that, I'm sure either way constructing would be a PITA.

Seattlesquash · 09-11-2018, 11:14 PM

Another 120 miles and I will stomp on it!

Noir · 09-11-2018, 11:16 PM

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Another 120 miles and I will stomp on it!

aw mayne

mrnuke · 09-12-2018, 07:49 AM

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CobraMarty would the intake be crafted from plastic or metal? Silly question... Curious. With that, I'm sure either way constructing would be a PITA.

I would guess aluminum for best thermo properties if possible. Or copper if you'd like a 50lb intake

CobraMarty · 09-12-2018, 09:31 AM

Cardboard and plastic are my preferred 'mocking up' or 'mucking up' material.

All aluminum for the working intake.
-Use a CNC machined N52/N54/N55 intake spacer. Don't need it drilled for aux injectors or meth or nitrous.
-Intercooler cores are aluminum
-I can, well my son can weld aluminum.

Most will be flat alumn plate probably 3/16" thick cut to shape.
The tubes 1 3/4" 1/8" wall round alumn tubing that has one end has been made into oval shape.
Lots of weird angle cuts.

Echoninety · 09-12-2018, 09:34 AM

Just wanted you all to know I'm following along even though I won't be adding a supercharger anytime soon to my car. Living vicariously through you all. Hahaha

Torgus · 09-12-2018, 11:42 AM

What does everyone think the cost of a OEM like A2W setup would be for an n52?

My guess is:
DIY:3k Depending on how much you can actually do yourself and factoring in that your time is literally worth $$$.
BPC: 5k+

atmosphericM · 09-12-2018, 11:59 AM

LOL @ cardboard aided design. I'll have to use that one day.

Pretty sure you guys are facing different issues because SeattleSquash is in a coupe while Noir is in a sedan. Surprised that ESS didn't know/communicate these differences to their customers. Wait, no I'm not. Glad y'all are figuring out how to get it all worked out, though! Kind of annoying that the R&D is falling on your shoulders, but sometimes that part is fun anyway I suppose.

Seattlesquash · 09-13-2018, 04:25 PM

Just past my 200 mile break-in, and gave it hell! Feels so good and pulls hard! Felt like a kid again, especially after 5k... really impressed and a screamer at those high rpm up to 7k.

Wife was like why did it take so long to store and back, 80 miles later! no more errands for her obviously!

Biginboca · 09-13-2018, 05:33 PM

Ok... seriously... can one of you guys post a video already?

Noir · 09-13-2018, 05:37 PM

after this hurricane storm thing passes...
Seattlesquash, I nominate thee.

CobraMarty · 09-13-2018, 05:57 PM

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What does everyone think the cost of a OEM like A2W setup would be for an n52?

My guess is:
DIY:3k Depending on how much you can actually do yourself and factoring in that your time is literally worth $$$.
BPC: 5k+

Heat exchanger, pump, hose, clamps, etc-- $300

manifold plate $100, round to oval tubes-$85, IC core--$150, aluminum 3/16"--$100, labor--$400

Total-- $1200-1500.

Now- designing, fitting, testing, re-designing, re-testing, scrapping, starting over, etc--PRICELESS but then again I waste hours on this forum also, ha.

$1500 would be the goal price point to try and hit. And then add 'BMW' on it and double the price.

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Noir Major 893 Rep 1,413 Posts Drives: 2006 E90 330i 6MT Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: San Antonio iTrader: (1)	Seattlesquash did you bonafide just place the included cone filter on the hard plastic piece? .... gonna have to do this tonight for some piece of mind. gonna catch a bit of Florence later this week. Got ya boi scurrrrd. Hoping for the best. :/ CobraMarty I'm guessing I dont have that pipe because I got one of the older e90s :d __________________ See you, space cowboy. *Supercharged*
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CobraMarty Major 633 Rep 1,402 Posts Drives: 2007 328xi e90 + e92 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: BimmerMILVs.com iTrader: (7)	Here is something I was playing with using CAD. The runners and IM plate are angled down 20* so the IC box will be level horizontal like the S55. The TB would bolt on the bottom upside down, pointing upwards. A silicone tube would come out of the SC and then 90* up to TB. Sorry for the large pictures, I just learned how to use imgur and my cell phone for photos. Last edited by CobraMarty; 09-10-2018 at 05:06 PM..
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CobraMarty Major 633 Rep 1,402 Posts Drives: 2007 328xi e90 + e92 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: BimmerMILVs.com iTrader: (7)	Looking closer there is not much room in the back of the intake manifold. I 'shortened' my CAD (cardboard aided design) in the back and slightly in the front. Now use a 12"x6"x3.5" core and IC end tanks are built into the design. Last edited by CobraMarty; 09-11-2018 at 12:37 PM..
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Noir Major 893 Rep 1,413 Posts Drives: 2006 E90 330i 6MT Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: San Antonio iTrader: (1)	CobraMarty would the intake be crafted from plastic or metal? Silly question... Curious. With that, I'm sure either way constructing would be a PITA. __________________ See you, space cowboy. *Supercharged*
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CobraMarty Major 633 Rep 1,402 Posts Drives: 2007 328xi e90 + e92 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: BimmerMILVs.com iTrader: (7)	Cardboard and plastic are my preferred 'mocking up' or 'mucking up' material. All aluminum for the working intake. -Use a CNC machined N52/N54/N55 intake spacer. Don't need it drilled for aux injectors or meth or nitrous. -Intercooler cores are aluminum -I can, well my son can weld aluminum. Most will be flat alumn plate probably 3/16" thick cut to shape. The tubes 1 3/4" 1/8" wall round alumn tubing that has one end has been made into oval shape. Lots of weird angle cuts.
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