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      03-04-2011, 04:31 PM   #617
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Update to the new 2-14 maps and re dyno. I was told the dyno dynamics I dyno'd on reads 13-14% lower than the dyno jets in town which puts my 361hp to 407-412hp at 15psi on the 1-24 maps and 2-14 DIC maps feel better still.
Yes the DD and MD dynos read about 13% lower than most dynojets.. Thanks for the results..

BTW.. Your clutch is on the way monday.. Soon as you get that in there and the boost up well see some great results.. Thanks again for your support!!

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Click on the Speed(MPH) on the x-axis and change that to Engine speed and then click on the right y-axis and change it to Torque..then re-export and we'll have a much better idea of what this graph is talking about looks great though except for that one run, what the heck happened there?
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Thx Mike but we didn't dyno all the way to the redline due to some bog we experienced during our first two runs with fuel cutouts, probably could have made bit more power if we redlined it. Check this out...
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Car definitely needs to dial down better. We took it out to 1/8 last night and everytime we experience 1st to 2nd gear bog. Launching was awesome, hooks up real nice but then it bogs on 2nd and pulls again on 3rd. For example, I saw 2010 Camaro SS ran 8.9(same car that was head to head with me on freeway ), and this car ran 8.1
Any suggestions would be greatly apprciated. I have never dyno'd this car, and shop dynod few 335i but no proceed with upped turbos
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WHOA! Lean as hell....like unsafe lean. Whats going on there?
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WHOA! Lean as hell....like unsafe lean. Whats going on there?
thats what we are wondering......
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Car definitely needs to dial down better. We took it out to 1/8 last night and everytime we experience 1st to 2nd gear bog. Launching was awesome, hooks up real nice but then it bogs on 2nd and pulls again on 3rd. For example, I saw 2010 Camaro SS ran 8.9(same car that was head to head with me on freeway ), and this car ran 8.1
Any suggestions would be greatly apprciated. I have never dyno'd this car, and shop dynod few 335i but no proceed with upped turbos
Have u done the procede harness update? If not definitely do that and update to the latest firmware. Also ur boost curve seems a bit different to mine, i had to dial down the boost gain on the procede to about 40 to stop it from overshooting the boost but seems like it holds a bit better than ur curve.
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Ye i did do harness update but just not the newest map. All runs were done in 12-17 map. And again i should have let proceed to autotune but by the time we got to the dyno shop, we caught owner leaving and had to beg him to run my car so...super nice guy though.
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thats what we are wondering......
wondering...you better figure that out soon. Those AFR's are pretty dangerous. Update the maps ASAP and do you get any half engine lights after WOT pulls?
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Ye i did do harness update but just not the newest map. All runs were done in 12-17 map.
Ok... update then go out and remember that i said u will have a smile on ur face... 2-14 Maps feel so gd. Ur gonna wish u had done it before and the afr curves are a better and very consistent. Run after run had exactly same afr curve for me even when comparing stock turbo to AWD upgrades. Shiv is doing a gd job with these new maps.
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wondering...you better figure that out soon. Those AFR's are pretty dangerous. Update the maps ASAP and do you get any half engine lights after WOT pulls?
that doesn't look like the car went lean - it looks like the sensor wasn't reading right....

if you look at the end of the pull its spot on where the other two were - my guess is that it needs to be recalibrated and replaced (wideband sensor)
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Did you set the boost response gain to 35% as per Vishnu's recommendations?
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Yes the DD and MD dynos read about 13% lower than most dynojets.. Thanks for the results..

BTW.. Your clutch is on the way monday.. Soon as you get that in there and the boost up well see some great results.. Thanks again for your support!!

Mike
Thanks Mike... I definitely need the clutch upgrade. I'm waiting on Shiv's new meth kit to be released and then i will definitely get you some results. Might have to add a downpipe back exhaust to the list to take advantage of the extra boost.
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wondering...you better figure that out soon. Those AFR's are pretty dangerous. Update the maps ASAP and do you get any half engine lights after WOT pulls?
I did get ses light on first two runs where car choked @ 4500 rpm. But after that car ran fine. I will update as soon as I get my car back


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Ok... update then go out and remember that i said u will have a smile on ur face... 2-14 Maps feel so gd. Ur gonna wish u had done it before and the afr curves are a better and very consistent. Run after run had exactly same afr curve for me even when comparing stock turbo to AWD upgrades. Shiv is doing a gd job with these new maps.
will do, car is in the shop for few weeks so I will update as soon as I get it back I'm still pretty happy with the numbers and very excitied that new maps are better

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Did you set the boost response gain to 35% as per Vishnu's recommendations?
yes. i saw the thread and i did that right away

edit: it's just weird that car only bogs between 1st to 2nd gear pull, on freeway...doing WOT or 3rd to 4th pull, car feels amazing.
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Did you set the boost response gain to 35% as per Vishnu's recommendations?
That's only for RBs and their wg design...shouldn't apply here...if you set that too low procede will still adapt it upwards but in the beginning you'll have more lag
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That's only for RBs and their wg design...shouldn't apply here...if you set that too low procede will still adapt it upwards but in the beginning you'll have more lag
ah shit really? i thought that apply to all upped turbos and I did adjust that value right before the dyno. oh well, what's done is done, I will need few weeks to get my car back anyways, hopefully by then, new firmware/maps + new meth kit from Vishnu
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ah shit really? i thought that apply to all upped turbos and I did adjust that value right before the dyno. oh well, what's done is done, I will need few weeks to get my car back anyways, hopefully by then, new firmware/maps + new meth kit from Vishnu
No worries it didn't affect power, just spool up...usually take 5-6 pulls under WOT to adjust for wastegate stiffness
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whats going on with the 35x pull? Almost looks like a sneaky pete shot lol

Btw that stupid lean af ratio is not the dynos sensor being broken. Your car actually ran that lean. Boost was higher then stock and yet the car did not make any power untill the af returned somewhat to normal
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@Creaminz, what was the name of the dyno shop? Was it bottle blown racing?
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@Creaminz, what was the name of the dyno shop? Was it bottle blown racing?
Oh i totally forgot to include that. It was MD, Mark is a great guy!!
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Darren!!!

ur bimmer is being molested by the meth.

didn't u fill that thing up at EAS with the 50/50 mix
and we drove to MD and by the 8th pull u were
down less than half on the tank?

thank gawd, the bimmer dial'd in on the
last 2 runs without meth.

the upgraded turbos are "muy bueno"
next time you'll be able to push her a little harder.
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