[135i_vs_]

Originally Posted by ecotuneuk

I should clarify again that this downpipe is purchased as part of our tuning package and will only be sold under these circumstances. The downpipe will then be sent to the customer along with their tuned ECU.

Have you set pricing for the package? Please advise in dollars.

Please advise the # of OBD 2 monitors what will be "incomplete" state, due to the tuning.

Thanks,

[135i_vs_]

Originally Posted by Yozh

Would anyone here be able to answer my earlier question. Is there any point in keeping DEF injection with the EGR block and DPF delete? Will the metering valve plug-up faster without the DPF?

If I do DPF delete, I plan to keep the Urea injection and SCR in place. It helps reduce a lot of pollutants and probably minimize the black smoke. Only problem, might be using a lot of urea fluid.
I'm not sure what was done to the tune for the NOx sensor parameters. If its tuned out, then there really isn't a point. It will be just added weight.

[Yozh]

Thanks 135, i also want to retain the Urea if I can for the same reasons. Wonder if there could be some custom requirements such as these. When I talked to RS, they said that they could not tune out any emission controls, just reduce the EGR cycle.

Stan,
Price and process please. Do we go through RS in NJ or direct to Scotland?

[Puerto Rican 335d]

Chances the urea tank will go obsolete since its programmed to work albeit dpf and nox sensors. You can use the tank for meth like someone here has done. Only Stan knows has been done to the programming. Stan your turn to bat

[ryank04]

Pipe looks really great stan,

Are any of the US authorized distributors going to be offering this soon? or is this still considered a "beta" product untill test fittings are verified.

[BB_cuda]

Okay Stan, do I need to write you at your site to order one? We had this list going earlier as to who wanted one and I was right after TDI and PR (before PR asked off the list). I wanted an early unit. Is one available? We can talk tomorrow as its ~almost 1 am in your time zone.
thanks, 'cuda

[mob17]

£375 for a pipe?

[GreekboyD]

Originally Posted by mob17

£375 for a pipe?

That's like $700 here in Canada. Does it include anything else?

[TDIwyse]

Originally Posted by ecotuneuk

First four shipping to clients tomorrow for test fitting.

That's pretty.

[mob17]

Originally Posted by GreekboyD

That's like $700 here in Canada. Does it include anything else?

The description says:

3" Bore downpipe with machined stainless steel turbo fitting, uprated stainless flexi section, milled fittings for lambda and temperature sensors.

For an extra £500 you get:

Two DPF OFF software upgrades with choice of performance programs. (Redeemed on site or via e-mail)

iFlash OBD2 diagnostic programming tool with cables and PC software.

[GreekboyD]

Originally Posted by mob17

The description says:

3" Bore downpipe with machined stainless steel turbo fitting, uprated stainless flexi section, milled fittings for lambda and temperature sensors.

For an extra 500 you get:

Two DPF OFF software upgrades with choice of performance programs. (Redeemed on site or via e-mail)

iFlash OBD2 diagnostic programming tool with cables and PC software.

Yep. That flash only works on the Euro spec 335d. Our North American DDEs would have to be removed and sent to Ecotune or done by a more local agent of theirs.

[Puerto Rican 335d]

Their local agent is RS in Jersey if not mistaken. Yes the DDE has to be sent amigos NO ifs about it. Question is what are the REAL prices Stan, come to bat either the cricket way or baseball way. I suspect starting around $1200 for the mild software minus/plus shipping who knows. This item although looking great as posted is yet to be proven unless they ECOTUNE can come out to tell us what came out of it w/o mentioning their guinea pigs location what transcribed in the dyno's and what problems partook if any. This would help a lot of you to see how this product fared and give some peace of mind. Spoke to my programer and he told me and array of issues can arise when doing a downpipe and in OUR case our DDE's are encrypted and software is somewhat different than the Euro version, Im intrigued and would like to see if Stan can say something about this!

[dixy2k]

I really don't understand why the Europeans are so rude when it comes to customer service. Why can't I choose the product I want, but instead I am forced to spend more money than I need? Lack of real competition?

It is an off road (illegal) product to instal on road cars, it will affect warranty and no official body will help you in a dispute against you in case something goes wrong.

Until you change your stance regarding this policy, you can keep your pipe and smoke it.

[Yozh]

Wasn't this issue of business decisions covered before and discussed at great length? And just like any consumer, one always has other choices. You can either buy or not buy. But it does not end there to leave you without a solution. Luckily, for people who are not interested in the downpipe, you have another choice. Take your stock DPF, rip it out, weld it back and enjoy your 'd' with a tune of your choice from your favourite tuner you like to support.

[DbLog]

Originally Posted by dixy2k

I really don't understand why the Europeans are so rude when it comes to customer service. Why can't I choose the product I want, but instead I am forced to spend more money than I need? Lack of real competition?

You CAN choose the product you want and aren't forced to do anything. Just like they aren't forced to post dyno numbers etc...

That looks like an awesome piece!! As someone who will be in the market for a dpf delete and a tune I'm waiting to see some testing results.

EGT temp reduction, mpg increases, dyno's etc...

Looking forward to hearing some results from this side of the pond.

[Puerto Rican 335d]

Stan people are ASKING for dynos already, lets help them get what they want. And BTW dont tell me i didnt tell you so, they want results caome step up to the plate compadre.

[Puerto Rican 335d]

I was willing to be a GUINEA PIG since the laws down here are more flexible but they ignored me, I would payed dynos etc etc but again they ignored me LOL

[Yozh]

Originally Posted by Puerto Rican 335d

I was willing to be a GUINEA PIG since the laws down here are more flexible but they ignored me, I would payed dynos etc etc but again they ignored me LOL

Did you offer to send your stock DPF to them for R&D? I believe they were looking for someone since last year.

[Puerto Rican 335d]

Yozh only one person did that and he told me but i promised NOT to disclose his name!!

[joe_planet]

Originally Posted by Puerto Rican 335d

Yozh only one person did that and he told me but i promised NOT to disclose his name!!

you mean tdiwyse?

[Puerto Rican 335d]

i plead the 5th on this one LOL

[TorqueAddict]

Originally Posted by joe_planet

you mean tdiwyse?