[Tommy-G]

Youre a better man than me, I was out when you said NO SEX yet

[King_Leonard]

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

So here you are on relationship #5 and already the same pattern is emerging: Conflict over change.

Sounds to me like OP might be the problem.

[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by D_o_S

Thanks for the input... not wanting to sound like a devil's advocate, but if anyone has anything more to say, to perhaps offer a different viewpoint... please, step forward

Stop being a bitch!!!! Pump that iron, maybe take some roids since you seem to be a little bitch!!! Do what she tells you and MAYBE she’ll let you see a nipple.

Is that what you wanted to hear??

[SickGTR]

Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

Stop being a bitch!!!! Pump that iron, maybe take some roids since you seem to be a little bitch!!! Do what she tells you and MAYBE she'll let you see a nipple.

Is that what you wanted to hear??

Lol. She is probably banging some other dude anyway

[Turkish Pickle]

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

This is generally what's referred to as "settling" but I'm betting you know that already. This is the start of every miserable relationship. You know the broken dudes you see at Costco walking head down towards their minivan with their fat ass wife screaming at them in the parking lot about how stupid they are? Yeah, this is how those relationships start.

Originally Posted by D_o_S

Thanks for the input... not wanting to sound like a devil's advocate, but if anyone has anything more to say, to perhaps offer a different viewpoint... please, step forward

I will try talking to her in the upcoming days...

My man, I understand wanting to hear both sides before making a decision, but it's not like we're debating which color is good or not.

So many of us are saying the same thing for good reason...

[No one]

Originally Posted by DETRoadster

She says "Wow, thanks for your honesty, I didnt realize I was coming across like that. That was shitty of me. I'm sorry." = OK, maybe there's some hope

Nope. This would only mean she's smart and she has plans on him. It's clear she doesn't find him attractive, she does not respect him, she wants to manipulate him.

It's quite pointless to talk to someone who doesn't listen. At least, you should change that first.

You can't alter instinctive attraction. It's more than just physical: even if he bulks up it won't help. Shirt size is such a formal criterion (she's not really interested)! It would only compliment her ability to manipulate him.

[avantegardestyle]

Op

your post was o long, too much to read,
but is clear you have not mastered yourself, and so you will not master the art of womanizing,. being a "Gallis"

you are too nice, you gotta be a respectful jerk, a benevolent dictator.....find a woman who gives you what YOU want.........if she isnt willing to agree to that, as Peter Tosh and Mick Jagger sang: Walk and dont look back!

let me give you a word of advice before I go

1. make sure you are making good money..........."Ive never seen a Man WHO MAKES MONEY CHASING WOMEN, but i've seen a lotta women who chase a man who makes money. make yourself valuable and women will want to be in your company, chasing you rather than the other way around

2. See your money/ time/ value as a bag of M&M chocolate, rather than a Hershey bar....
give a little at a time AND they'll come back for more

3. ALWAYS make sure that your kindness to these women are transactional.

Something for Something. because you owe them NOTHING.........


good luck

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by avantegardestyle

Op

your post was o long, too much to read,
but is clear you have not mastered yourself, and so you will not master the art of womanizing,. being a "Gallis"

you are too nice, you gotta be a respectful jerk, a benevolent dictator.....find a woman who gives you what YOU want.........if she isnt willing to agree to that, as Peter Tosh and Mick Jagger sang: Walk and dont look back!

let me give you a word of advice before I go

1. make sure you are making good money..........."Ive never seen a Man WHO MAKES MONEY CHASING WOMEN, but i've seen a lotta women who chase a man who makes money. make yourself valuable and women will want to be in your company, chasing you rather than the other way around

2. See your money/ time/ value as a bag of M&M chocolate, rather than a Hershey bar....
give a little at a time AND they'll come back for more

3. ALWAYS make sure that your kindness to these women are transactional.

Something for Something. because you owe them NOTHING.........


good luck

You are destined to be unhappy if you believe and act out any of the above.

Short term you'll be happy...long term, unhappy. But you'll figure that out.

[Mein11]

Originally Posted by D_o_S

Thanks for the input... not wanting to sound like a devil's advocate, but if anyone has anything more to say, to perhaps offer a different viewpoint... please, step forward

I'll offer a different viewpoint, don't come to a car forum asking for personal life guidance.


I'll also offer a similar viewpoint. Stop wasting your fucking time.

[///MPhatic]

Run don't walk, from this thing.

[CTinline-six]

Don't be nice. The true test is when you give her shit back. If she takes it and there is back and forth, then fine. If she gets offended, you walk.

[King Rudi]

Three pages of a first post that I couldn't even get through. If I see (or hear) relationship, but no sex; I instantly stop paying attention.

A.) Have a relationshipless sex life
B.) If you are in a relationship with no sex - see above.
C.) Whatever problems may exist here, I feel are because of you.

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

OP its pretty simple. is there is no sexual desire from a woman she is simply using you. you must understand this. you might be banging a chick for months and it can extinguish that quickly and you must be aware to cut ties. you aint even gettin any. fuck that hoe.

honestly I wouldn't even put up with that shit if I was railing her out 4 times a day.

[e90335e36m3]

She's not into physically into YOU, she's into some version of you she hopes to curate. Reading that post was painful. If this is where you are a few months in, this relationship won't last.

[avantegardestyle]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

You are destined to be unhappy if you believe and act out any of the above.

Short term you'll be happy...long term, unhappy. But you'll figure that out.

you'd be correct if my happiness was contingent on relationships with women. Its not.
its not contingent on money either,
but I am clear, Im kind and generous to women, but in the end its my terms or no terms............take it or leave it.

happiness is overrated....and any man who seeks happiness and validation in a woman is a fool
I'm about purpose and making the world a better place than I came to see it by making meaningful contributions to the lives of others.

[e90335e36m3]

Originally Posted by avantegardestyle

you'd be correct if my happiness was contingent on relationships with women. Its not.
its not contingent on money either,
but I am clear, Im kind and generous to women, but in the end its my terms or no terms............take it or leave it.

happiness is overrated....and any man who seeks happiness and validation in a woman is a fool
I'm about purpose and making the world a better place than I came to see it by making meaningful contributions to the lives of others.

I hope your strategy for making money/professional success is not the same as it is on women/relationships. "My terms or no terms" seldom works in any aspect of life, including relationships. The most successful people master compromise. Those who cannot or refuse to generally don't make meaningful contributions to the lives of others because they cannot see past themselves and what they need/want, unless on some superficial level those needs/wants align.

Just curious, how old are you?

[wren57]

Yikes.

If you respect yourself, you'll leave her. If you don't respect yourself, women won't respect you, and she'll stick around for a bit until she's bored, then she'll leave you.

Respect yourself. If you don't believe you deserve better, you'll never get it.

[avantegardestyle]

Originally Posted by e90335e36m3

I hope your strategy for making money/professional success is not the same as it is on women/relationships. "My terms or no terms" seldom works in any aspect of life, including relationships. The most successful people master compromise. Those who cannot or refuse to generally don't make meaningful contributions to the lives of others because they cannot see past themselves and what they need/want, unless on some superficial level those needs/wants align.

Just curious, how old are you?

your assumption is that my way makes no room for compromise. it does,
In my way there are things negotiable and there are things non negotiable.
I lay my cards on the table and it's left to the woman to decide whether what I offer is a good or great deal for her or if it isnt.

My terms or no terms works VERY WELL
1. if you know the value of what you have on offer
2. if you dont over value or fool yourself
3. if you are not desperate and know where to compromise and where not to


take for example, this is a car forum
you have an E90 M3, with 50K miles valued colorway, slicktop, no accidents
you are selling for $30K..........market value or even a little below

would you have someone offer you 20K or 22K when you know the car is valued at 30K+ and to wait for the right buyer will get you what its worth?
maybe you are selling not because you need the money but because you just dont drive it enough and want something else.


Age..........45
two kids
was married for 12 years/ divorced
dating now a nice 27 year old fashion model to whom Im quite a benevolent dictator and she is loving it

[Fast.F10]

Like I tell my son (9yr old), talk first, and then just walk away if you can resolve the issue. No need to take that man...your trying to better yourself and she is not being supportive. She seems like a smart ass IMO...dont waste your minutes on her. If it ever happens, put Jimmy in a lamb skin or expect things to get worse.

Best of luck!

[avantegardestyle]

Originally Posted by wren57

Yikes.

If you respect yourself, you'll leave her. If you don't respect yourself, women won't respect you, and she'll stick around for a bit until she's bored, then she'll leave you.

Respect yourself. If you don't believe you deserve better, you'll never get it.

perfectly said............OP should find a woman who first respects men generally, then respect him as an individual and is willing to treat him with respect

he also needs to know that you cannot force desire in a woman, either she is into you or she is not.............and if she isnt, WALK

[Torgus]

Not going to get those 5 minutes of my life back...sigh

[upstatedoc]

Originally Posted by Torgus

Not going to get those 5 minutes of my life back...sigh

It only took you five minutes to read all that?