Procede Spark timing based Traction/Launch control

OpenFlash · 11-23-2010, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AltecBX

Will this be necessary for us xi drivers? Will it help out?

Unless you are getting wheelspin, it will be of no use other than reducing the load on your engine during the brake-torque portion of your launch.

chumley · 11-23-2010, 04:06 PM

Soooooo......Shiv - not that it isn't really amusing reading all the "wouldn't it be nice if it did this" posts, but the obvious question is..... when?

This month? By the end of the year?

Pry · 11-23-2010, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

As for the automated traction control system, we are currently testing algorithms to accurately detect wheelspeed. Once we have this, it's easy to time the spark retard event. And even make its aggression user adjustable to accommodate a variety of users/tires/surfaces/etc,.

Will the first official release of the V5 already have this automated on off -system?
Is it possible to make it adjust the aggression constantly while accellerating on different conditions? A little like a fast reacting autotune for the traction control.

Zaw · 11-23-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by eclipsor

I don't care if I'm in the minority. I asked Shiv if it would be possible and if it would be tough. I didn't say that I have a really important request that I think should be forwarded to the front of the wish list queue. Christ.

It's great how many people feel the need to put words into his mouth. Let him speak for himself. And stop poking with your stupid little comments. Just because it's not a priority to you, doesn't make it strange. It's also not just about "pushing one button." You don't get it, so you should probably just stop talking about it.

Doesn't sound like you know what you're talking about. At all. Thanks, though.

Just stop critiquing my request. I didn't ask for any of your advice. I just asked Shiv if it would be doable and how difficult it would be.

please calm your self. Thanks...

OpenFlash · 11-23-2010, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pry

Will the first official release of the V5 already have this automated on off -system?
Is it possible to make it adjust the aggression constantly while accellerating on different conditions? A little like a fast reacting autotune for the traction control.

V5 will release before the New Year

And anything is possible with respect to the evolution of the launch/traction control feature. This is just the first step.

Zaw · 11-23-2010, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JPSlick

LOL I always turn traction off when I get in this car LOL

This new traction control should hopefully help the launches.

I like driving with the DSC off and DTC on because I don't have a LSD. But why do you turn off the DTC off all together? Am I missing something?

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 11-23-2010, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaw

I like driving with the DSC off and DTC on because I don't have a LSD. But why do you turn off the DTC off all together? Am I missing something?

I dont want any interference with nannies on this car, If I want to drive sideways, so let it be.

My right foot is my launch and stability control.

If i try to race with any of those things on, it just slows me down.

I do keep it on in the rain a majority of the time.

themyst · 11-23-2010, 04:43 PM

Shiv - I remember reading somewhere about a dyno mode feature for the PROcede. Whatever happened to that? Sorry for the OT.

eclipsor · 11-23-2010, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaw

please calm your self. Thanks...

Shhhhhh.

bryce · 11-23-2010, 06:15 PM

awesome feature, shiv! i hate dtc and disable it pretty much every trip. dsc off scares me sometimes lol so i don't always diable that. this seems like a perfect application for everyone! i'm excited for v5! keep up the great work

black e · 11-23-2010, 06:40 PM

any N55 and/or DCT love?
It would be great if you could implement a adjustable lunch control or something like that on the DCT cars!

kenneth · 11-23-2010, 06:54 PM

I am not sure about DCT, but by definition V5 will be for both N54 and N55!

Constant.S · 11-23-2010, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by black e

any N55 and/or DCT love?
It would be great if you could implement a adjustable lunch control or something like that on the DCT cars!

The DCT on the N55 is actually pretty good, its just that the e-LSD is crap and doesnt deliver the power progressivly.

black e · 11-23-2010, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Constant.S

The DCT on the N55 is actually pretty good, its just that the e-LSD is crap and doesnt deliver the power progressivly.

yeah the DCT is great but the lunch control sucks!
it literaly just dumps the "clutch" so the car just spins and spins the wheels on street tires...

onesuperboi · 11-23-2010, 08:04 PM

Wow. Sounds amazing.

When do you think the JB4 will implement this feature? Should be sometime after your post, right?

OpenFlash · 11-23-2010, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by onesuperboi

Wow. Sounds amazing.

When do you think the JB4 will implement this feature? Should be sometime after your post, right?

Once they start believing in ignition timing control

only1 · 11-23-2010, 08:27 PM

I think it's time to make a change.....
Is v5 going to be the last rendition? or is this upgrade endless?

OpenFlash · 11-23-2010, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by only1

I think it's time to make a change.....
Is v5 going to be the last rendition? or is this upgrade endless?

Who knows? Evolution doesn't seem to stop, does it?

ar design · 11-23-2010, 08:32 PM

Cool stuff, always nice to see more features!

only1 · 11-23-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Who knows? Evolution doesn't seem to stop, does it?

well put. Do i get a discount for giving up my giac and moving to procede?

OpenFlash · 11-23-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by only1

well put. Do i get a discount for giving up my giac and moving to procede?

Yep... $200 off with proof of previous tune (jb, sstt, giac and dinan) purchase.

Constant.S · 11-23-2010, 08:51 PM

And what if i tell you i tuned my car with some duct tape and a screwdriver, do i still get a discount?
Kidding

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