The Definitive Tyre Thread (FAQ inside)

CYL · 10-01-2013, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart@BMRAutowerkes

No, you can change setup from OEM... whether you want wider tyres and/or wider wheels, there is a certain degree of tolerance where things will fit a-ok.

If you have 225M wheels you could easily go to 19x8.5, 19x9.5 with similar offsets and it'll fit. Likewise if your tyres are currently 225/255 you could go to 235/265 without much drama.

ET, also known as offset, is how far in, or how far out your wheel will sit.
An ET of Zero (0) will mean the wheel mounts to the hub in exactly the middle of the wheel. Whereas a positive ET (eg +30) sees it sit inside by 30mm.
Going from an ET of 35 to ET30 would see the wheel stick out 5mm more... make sense?

Here is a handy calculator as well: http://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel-Offset-Calculator

Thanks Stu, I have read that calculator before too.
Hmm...I am buying a 325 coupe with style 67 19" rims plus 245/35/19 tyres on ALL wheels, so, just thinking if there is any impact to the car, and want to see if those tyres can be used on a 225 rims that I am going to buy from a forum member here.
In regards to tirerack, I saw thread before saying that different operator at their side will have different shipping quotes....
I am thinking of the continental DW, or the kumho 31 as the PSS is too expensive, I was told the PSS in a set of 4 costs $1800....

Zomling335 · 02-19-2014, 10:12 AM

heres a question for your 'faq' section maybe-

can i run non rf's on one axle & rf's on the other?

reason i ask, is my front rf's are getting low, so i'm thinking of going non rf's on the front & waiting till my rears rf's have worn down before putting non rf's on the rear.

i'm sure it would be ok, but worth asking i think.

thanks

bmshez · 04-25-2014, 11:12 PM

Hey guys, any opinions on upgrading from a 225/255 (RFT) setup to a 235/265 (non-RFT) setup for a M Sport 325i with 18" 193M wheels?

Stuart@BMRAutowerkes · 06-05-2014, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmshez

Hey guys, any opinions on upgrading from a 225/255 (RFT) setup to a 235/265 (non-RFT) setup for a M Sport 325i with 18" 193M wheels?

late reply, but probably not needed IMO... don't want to 'overtyre it' which will increase drag.. also those sizes will bulge a fair bit on the 8" and 8.5" widths of the 193s.

Testercles · 06-06-2014, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaturnV335

heres a question for your 'faq' section maybe-

can i run non rf's on one axle & rf's on the other?

reason i ask, is my front rf's are getting low, so i'm thinking of going non rf's on the front & waiting till my rears rf's have worn down before putting non rf's on the rear.

Curious as to the answer for this one. I'm thinking of perhaps doing the same thing.

aussie_335 · 06-12-2014, 01:20 AM

Just got an unbelieveable price for some new tyres from my local Bridgestone Select Store near the Marion Shopping Centre.

I have 19" 225m wheels (2010 E92 335i)

I am getting the following
Bridgestone Potenza S001 RFT

2 x 225x35x19 (front)
2 x 255x30x19 (rear)

Fitted and balanced, nitrogen filled, wheel allignment and a $100 fuel card all for less than $1700.
TireRack in the USA don't even have the S001 in these sizes and checked their price for the soon to be discontinued Bridgestone Potenza RE050A which are an inferior tyre to the S001's and their price wasn't much cheaper. When you add in shipping fitting etc etc I am getting them cheaper here.
I think this is a great deal and worth mentioning

cheers

kaitan · 06-12-2014, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aussie_335

Just got an unbelieveable price for some new tyres from my local Bridgestone Select Store near the Marion Shopping Centre.

I have 19" 225m wheels (2010 E92 335i)

I am getting the following
Bridgestone Potenza S001 RFT

2 x 225x35x19 (front)
2 x 255x30x19 (rear)

Fitted and balanced, nitrogen filled, wheel allignment and a $100 fuel card all for less than $1700.
TireRack in the USA don't even have the S001 in these sizes and checked their price for the soon to be discontinued Bridgestone Potenza RE050A which are an inferior tyre to the S001's and their price wasn't much cheaper. When you add in shipping fitting etc etc I am getting them cheaper here.
I think this is a great deal and worth mentioning

cheers

Awesome! I recently bought michelin PSS same size as you and I've got under $1500 fitted locally

bought the tyres from Australia too.

nsfx84 · 10-20-2014, 11:36 PM

Hi guys, can someone recommend me a set of 4 tyres? BMW E90 320i 17" wheels. I looked through the TyrePower site and they do not stock any of the recommended Michelin tyres for my car but plenty of other brands. We want something a bit more comfortable as compared to Run Flats. Thanks

Testercles · 11-06-2014, 10:20 PM

Anything will be more comfortable than runflats. Anything.

ardy121 · 12-26-2014, 03:16 AM

Hi everyone,

Have had my car for about 6 months and it's time for the tyres to be changed. They are 18' run flats and I'm looking at changing to 19' kumho ku31 (e90 325i). Looking at going with the fitment in this thread for front and rear and looks like it will cost around $1100. Is this decent? Includes fitting but no alignment.

http://www.tyresales.com.au/buy/tyre...265-30R19/1478

Twoforty · 07-01-2015, 12:00 AM

Quote
[B]I've heard of lugbolts coming loose and becoming brittle with age -
Unquote

As a retired consultant metallurgist ( B. Sc. qualified) I would like to make the observation that techically steel does not become "brittle" with age.
Failure of wheel studs is however a common occurrence due to metal fatigue. This is caused by cyclic stresses exceeding the fatigue strength of the metal when stress concentrations such as thread roots are present.
Fatigue failures are avoided by installation at correct torque settings. ie. Avoid loose bolts.
Studs will last the life of the car if correct high tensile quality and sufficiently high installation torque.

mcinnes · 08-05-2015, 09:38 AM

Hey guys,

Looking at new rims for my e92, Do you think these will fit on?

19 inch x 9.5 inch with a 20 offset.

Thats all round as well...

Heyeug · 11-29-2015, 06:45 PM

Just picked up a 2nd hand e90 m3 a couple of weeks ago and was shopping around for new tyres. Did a price survey for Michelins Pilot Super Sport around Melbourne and this is what I found:

Front 245/35/19
Jaxquickfit $379
BobJane $399
TyrePlus $390

Rear 265/35/19
Jaxquickfit $473
BobJane $500
TyrePlus $475

Heard TyrePower are pretty competitive too but didn't call them up.
Michelins have a $100 cashback now so in total $1600 for a set of 4 at Jaxs.

EB89 · 03-03-2016, 09:46 PM

Just picked up a set of Michelin Pilot Super Sports from Illawarra Tyre Power

265 30 R19 = $420
235 35 R19 = $365

Total $1570 Fitted and Balanced

satz · 07-19-2016, 10:19 PM

Any updates on recommended tyres, as I think the original thread was from 2012.

I'm looking at replacing my 18inch Potenza 050A RFTs with non-RFT, mainly after:
- less tramlining
- less noise
- less bumpiness

I think the Michelin PSS still rules the roost, but are there cheaper options if I'm not after ultimate dry/wet performance?

Was considering the Eagle Assymetric 2, but apparently they could be noisy.

Anyone used the Kumho Ecsta LE? Or the Nittos?

Testercles · 07-20-2016, 08:29 AM

A mate had Invos on his E39 M5 front axle. He likes them but wouldn't buy them again. From memory they were noisey, but he's pretty anal about road noise.

Testercles · 07-22-2016, 08:57 PM

Worth noting, based on the tyre placard in an 08 e90 335i, keeping things legal (diameter change no greater than 15 mm) and rolling circumference as close as possible I have found that 235/35R19 front and 275/30R19 rear is pretty much perfect.

www.willtheyfit.com is my friend in that regard.

satz · 07-31-2016, 07:32 PM

Have ordered the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3 for the front wheels.

Could only get them for the front sizes, as GY Australia hasn't brought in the 255/35/18. Hoping they will in the next few months.

kaitan · 08-14-2016, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satz

Have ordered the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3 for the front wheels.

Could only get them for the front sizes, as GY Australia hasn't brought in the 255/35/18. Hoping they will in the next few months.

How much you paid for it?

satz · 08-29-2016, 06:47 PM

Tempe had them for $210 each (225/40/18)

update (sep 2016) - spoke to Goodyear Australia. They still don't have an ETA for the 255/35/18 and say it could be up to Jan 2017.

I've seen UK websites that can sell it and ship it to Aus. Works out at around A$330 per tyre

DOCTOR.Y · 10-19-2016, 11:54 PM

Has anyone compared Bridgestone S001 with Michelin PSS (R19)?

e36mmm · 12-27-2016, 12:12 AM

Continental 5P are also great daily/summer tires for 335i as most would know. Continental 6 just got released which is on par with Michelin PSS but 335i fitment has a 3 month delay in production. Will be ready around end of March 2017 for delivery.. Pm me if anyone needs performance tires at a cheaper rate than anywhere else. Located in Victoria.

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Zomling335 Private First Class 1 Rep 129 Posts Drives: 335i E90 Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Perth Australia iTrader: (0)	heres a question for your 'faq' section maybe- can i run non rf's on one axle & rf's on the other? reason i ask, is my front rf's are getting low, so i'm thinking of going non rf's on the front & waiting till my rears rf's have worn down before putting non rf's on the rear. i'm sure it would be ok, but worth asking i think. thanks __________________ 2008 BSM 335i E90 JB4-G5 - sold
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bmshez Private First Class 9 Rep 103 Posts Drives: BMW 325i Coupe M Sport (E92) Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Melbourne iTrader: (0)	Hey guys, any opinions on upgrading from a 225/255 (RFT) setup to a 235/265 (non-RFT) setup for a M Sport 325i with 18" 193M wheels?
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aussie_335 Private First Class 95 Rep 125 Posts Drives: 2022 M3 manual with sunroof Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Adelaide iTrader: (0)	Just got an unbelieveable price for some new tyres from my local Bridgestone Select Store near the Marion Shopping Centre. I have 19" 225m wheels (2010 E92 335i) I am getting the following Bridgestone Potenza S001 RFT 2 x 225x35x19 (front) 2 x 255x30x19 (rear) Fitted and balanced, nitrogen filled, wheel allignment and a $100 fuel card all for less than $1700. TireRack in the USA don't even have the S001 in these sizes and checked their price for the soon to be discontinued Bridgestone Potenza RE050A which are an inferior tyre to the S001's and their price wasn't much cheaper. When you add in shipping fitting etc etc I am getting them cheaper here. I think this is a great deal and worth mentioning cheers __________________ 2005 E46 330ci 6MT (sold); 2008 E92 335i 6MT (sold); 2010 E93 325i 6AT (sold); 2010 E92 335i 6MT m-sport (sold Nov 2017); 2017 F32 440i MPPSK m-sport 8AT Mineral Grey(Sold Jan 2019); 2018 F32 440i m-sport 8AT - Estoril Blue (sold) 2021 F82 M440i 8AT Arctic Race Blue 2022 G80 M3 Atlantis Blue Metallic
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Testercles First Lieutenant 11 Rep 347 Posts Drives: 2008 E90 335iA Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Adelaide iTrader: (0)	Anything will be more comfortable than runflats. Anything. __________________ Current: 2008 E90 335iA Sparkling Graphite Metallic Past: 2009 E90 LCI 323iA Black Sapphire Metallic, 2005 E46 325iA Black Sapphire Metallic, 1992 E34 535iA Glacier Blue BMW Driver's Club of South Australia member
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ardy121 Private First Class 8 Rep 116 Posts Drives: e90 325i Sparkling Graphite Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: A.C.T iTrader: (0)	Hi everyone, Have had my car for about 6 months and it's time for the tyres to be changed. They are 18' run flats and I'm looking at changing to 19' kumho ku31 (e90 325i). Looking at going with the fitment in this thread for front and rear and looks like it will cost around $1100. Is this decent? Includes fitting but no alignment. http://www.tyresales.com.au/buy/tyre...265-30R19/1478
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Twoforty Private First Class 30 Rep 145 Posts Drives: F30 LCI 330i Msport Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Newcastle, Australia iTrader: (0)	Quote [B]I've heard of lugbolts coming loose and becoming brittle with age - Unquote As a retired consultant metallurgist ( B. Sc. qualified) I would like to make the observation that techically steel does not become "brittle" with age. Failure of wheel studs is however a common occurrence due to metal fatigue. This is caused by cyclic stresses exceeding the fatigue strength of the metal when stress concentrations such as thread roots are present. Fatigue failures are avoided by installation at correct torque settings. ie. Avoid loose bolts. Studs will last the life of the car if correct high tensile quality and sufficiently high installation torque. Last edited by Twoforty; 07-01-2015 at 12:35 AM.. Reason: grammar
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Heyeug Enlisted Member 6 Rep 34 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Melbourne iTrader: (0)	Just picked up a 2nd hand e90 m3 a couple of weeks ago and was shopping around for new tyres. Did a price survey for Michelins Pilot Super Sport around Melbourne and this is what I found: Front 245/35/19 Jaxquickfit $379 BobJane $399 TyrePlus $390 Rear 265/35/19 Jaxquickfit $473 BobJane $500 TyrePlus $475 Heard TyrePower are pretty competitive too but didn't call them up. Michelins have a $100 cashback now so in total $1600 for a set of 4 at Jaxs.
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satz Lieutenant Colonel 365 Rep 1,679 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW X3 M40i Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: A land down under iTrader: (0)	Any updates on recommended tyres, as I think the original thread was from 2012. I'm looking at replacing my 18inch Potenza 050A RFTs with non-RFT, mainly after: - less tramlining - less noise - less bumpiness I think the Michelin PSS still rules the roost, but are there cheaper options if I'm not after ultimate dry/wet performance? Was considering the Eagle Assymetric 2, but apparently they could be noisy. Anyone used the Kumho Ecsta LE? Or the Nittos? Last edited by satz; 07-19-2016 at 10:30 PM..
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Testercles First Lieutenant 11 Rep 347 Posts Drives: 2008 E90 335iA Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Adelaide iTrader: (0)	A mate had Invos on his E39 M5 front axle. He likes them but wouldn't buy them again. From memory they were noisey, but he's pretty anal about road noise. __________________ Current: 2008 E90 335iA Sparkling Graphite Metallic Past: 2009 E90 LCI 323iA Black Sapphire Metallic, 2005 E46 325iA Black Sapphire Metallic, 1992 E34 535iA Glacier Blue BMW Driver's Club of South Australia member
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Testercles First Lieutenant 11 Rep 347 Posts Drives: 2008 E90 335iA Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Adelaide iTrader: (0)	Worth noting, based on the tyre placard in an 08 e90 335i, keeping things legal (diameter change no greater than 15 mm) and rolling circumference as close as possible I have found that 235/35R19 front and 275/30R19 rear is pretty much perfect. www.willtheyfit.com is my friend in that regard. __________________ Current: 2008 E90 335iA Sparkling Graphite Metallic Past: 2009 E90 LCI 323iA Black Sapphire Metallic, 2005 E46 325iA Black Sapphire Metallic, 1992 E34 535iA Glacier Blue BMW Driver's Club of South Australia member
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satz Lieutenant Colonel 365 Rep 1,679 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW X3 M40i Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: A land down under iTrader: (0)	Have ordered the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3 for the front wheels. Could only get them for the front sizes, as GY Australia hasn't brought in the 255/35/18. Hoping they will in the next few months.
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satz Lieutenant Colonel 365 Rep 1,679 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW X3 M40i Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: A land down under iTrader: (0)	Tempe had them for $210 each (225/40/18) update (sep 2016) - spoke to Goodyear Australia. They still don't have an ETA for the 255/35/18 and say it could be up to Jan 2017. I've seen UK websites that can sell it and ship it to Aus. Works out at around A$330 per tyre Last edited by satz; 09-07-2016 at 08:51 PM..
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e36mmm Major 190 Rep 1,179 Posts Drives: 335i M Sport Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	Continental 5P are also great daily/summer tires for 335i as most would know. Continental 6 just got released which is on par with Michelin PSS but 335i fitment has a 3 month delay in production. Will be ready around end of March 2017 for delivery.. Pm me if anyone needs performance tires at a cheaper rate than anywhere else. Located in Victoria.
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