E Series NBT Evo Retrofit Development Thread

Gray335i · 01-05-2019, 07:14 PM

i just did a voltage check from my nbt evo 2016 from unit to cid cable/ it is 12Vdc

Nickco43 · 01-05-2019, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gray335i

i just did a voltage check from my nbt evo 2016 from unit to cid cable/ it is 12Vdc

My NBT next gave out 8.4 volts. Can you send the link to the parts you used for a voltage regulator?

Gray335i · 01-05-2019, 09:31 PM

DZS Elec 2PCS LM2596 DC-DC Step Down Variable Volt Regulator Input 3.2V-40V Output 1.25V-35V Adjustable Buck Converter Electronic Voltage Stabilizer Power Supply Module

Just copy and paste in Google search it will show you link for amazon

Nickco43 · 01-05-2019, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gray335i

DZS Elec 2PCS LM2596 DC-DC Step Down Variable Volt Regulator Input 3.2V-40V Output 1.25V-35V Adjustable Buck Converter Electronic Voltage Stabilizer Power Supply Module

Just copy and paste in Google search it will show you link for amazon

What size heat shrink will fit over the board?

Gray335i · 01-05-2019, 10:32 PM

here is mine installed in enclosure. you can see size if heatsink.

Nickco43 · 01-06-2019, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gray335i

here is mine installed in enclosure. you can see size if heatsink.

I am making it work. There are 5 vertical connectors and 4 horizontal ones. I am not sure what the 5th connector does.

Nickco43 · 01-06-2019, 02:37 AM

I hate when I am putting together a retrotfit. All day and night I am thinking of how to install all of this in the cleanest way possible. This is a large technical challenge.

gamesfrager · 01-06-2019, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Nickco43

I hate when I am putting together a retrotfit. All day and night I am thinking of how to install all of this in the cleanest way possible. This is a large technical challenge.

Just want to clarify one thing. You are installing this on the CIC dash inside the original second dash hump, right?

You are not doing an F30 style of iDrive screen? (really hope you say yes to this)

Nickco43 · 01-06-2019, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by gamesfrager

Just want to clarify one thing. You are installing this on the CIC dash inside the original second dash hump, right?

You are not doing an F30 style of iDrive screen? (really hope you say yes to this)

I already have a NBT next into my double hoop dash. I will be using my nbt next moded cid for the nbt evo.

Anyone have part numbers for the 6 pin connectors?

gamesfrager · 01-06-2019, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickco43

I already have a NBT next into my double hoop dash. I will be using my nbt next moded cid for the nbt evo.

Anyone have part numbers for the 6 pin connectors?

Just came across this by accident while searching for something else.
Looks like this fits the white 6 pin port?

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=61_4710

I'll see if I can find the black one

Edit:

I think #6 would fit for the black port?!

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=61_1280

Nickco43 · 01-06-2019, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gamesfrager

Just came across this by accident while searching for something else.
Looks like this fits the white 6 pin port?

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=61_4710

I'll see if I can find the black one

Edit:

I think #6 would fit for the black port?!

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=61_1280

I think I am going to order them both and I will make them fit if needed.

vilord · 01-07-2019, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by gamesfrager

Just want to clarify one thing. You are installing this on the CIC dash inside the original second dash hump, right?

You are not doing an F30 style of iDrive screen? (really hope you say yes to this)

Nick is going for E series double hoop style.

I'm going to start with F style idrive, with an 8 or 10 inch display cut into the dash since I'm going from a professional radio to Evo, and because I thought it was okay in the F loaner I had.

If it looks like crap or I hate it, I'll buy a double hoop dash and swap over to match Nick's install.

gamesfrager · 01-07-2019, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by vilord

Nick is going for E series double hoop style.

I'm going to start with F style idrive, with an 8 or 10 inch display cut into the dash since I'm going from a professional radio to Evo, and because I thought it was okay in the F loaner I had.

If it looks like crap or I hate it, I'll buy a double hoop dash and swap over to match Nick's install.

Hummm... is there really no other way to get the F30 style without cutting?
As for the EVO radio, would it be possible to get one and install it without getting a full iDrive system?
And what about the fitment? would it fit in place of the Pro radio unit without modifications?? That would be great, since that would solve the E9x lcd pixellation.

Sorry, too many things going through my head.

vilord · 01-07-2019, 10:56 AM

The F professional radio is at least a couple of inches wider than the E radio, so it definitely won't fit without significant changes to the dash.

What we're doing is installing the F evo iDrive 5/6 head unit behind an E CIC control panel.

Installing an evo iDrive head unit without iDrive wouldn't work because there would be no display at all.

gamesfrager · 01-07-2019, 10:59 AM

I see. Thank you for the clarification.
Time for an F30 full dash retrofit then

hahahah

vilord · 01-07-2019, 11:25 AM

Gray335i What do you have sending wakeup to the NBT for desk testing? Is it an arduino with a can shield, or have you been able to do it from a laptop?

Gray335i · 01-07-2019, 01:38 PM

0x12F 37 7C 8A DD D4 05 33 06
should be sufficient for 500K .
i am using arduino board with ta1050 , still waiting on screen to arrive.
also you can try : 0x130 45 40 22 8F FE (power on, curr running, e.,t,c)

vilord · 01-07-2019, 01:59 PM

I was sending the 130 code every 100ms, and it seemed to power on the lights on the idrive wheel, but that's it. it also seemed to stop listening every 800ms or so, and then turn off, then start listening again, and start back up.
Maybe I need to add a resistor as well... not sure if the enbt adapter has resistors on either of the kcan buses...

Gray335i · 01-07-2019, 02:06 PM

0x21A 3 05 12 F7 Lighting Status

add this as well/
I am not using 120 ohm resistor.

Gray335i · 01-07-2019, 02:08 PM

did you try adding 0x12F 37 7C 8A DD D4 05 33 06

Gray335i · 01-07-2019, 02:21 PM

my 6.6 screen is here from 2014 320.
looks like is dead. good old ebay.
vilord, as you can see in picture, my nbt evo is staying awake then whole time when is send thoise messages.

vilord · 01-07-2019, 02:27 PM

Will the evo work with a 6.6 screen? Did you drop the output resolution and turn off widescreen mode?

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Gray335i Private First Class 21 Rep 105 Posts Drives: 2008 335 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Rochester Hills, Michigan iTrader: (0)	0x12F 37 7C 8A DD D4 05 33 06 should be sufficient for 500K . i am using arduino board with ta1050 , still waiting on screen to arrive. also you can try : 0x130 45 40 22 8F FE (power on, curr running, e.,t,c)
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