[GreekboyD]

Originally Posted by TorqueAddict

I am planning to buy these soon as i am convinced by this thread that they add 5+ hp and help lower intake temps. I think i am gonna go with red ones. They add style as well.

You going the Cyba or ECS route?

[TorqueAddict]

Originally Posted by GreekboyD

You going the Cyba or ECS route?

I think cyba one's looks better. Weren't you planning on getting those Cheetah print ones?

[GottaBeKD]

Originally Posted by TorqueAddict

I think cyba one's looks better. Weren't you planning on getting those Cheetah print ones?

Get shag carpet and fuzzy dice and you'll be pimping 1980's style.

Seriously tho. Nah. Sorry can't think of anything serious.

[Puerto Rican 335d]

Torque i cant vouch for hp gains but at 70 mph once u kick you will feel some hump and yes red makes it look more aggressive i agree w u

[Puerto Rican 335d]

Cyba scoops google it they cost $49 unless they've gone up

[GreekboyD]

Originally Posted by Puerto Rican 335d

Cyba scoops google it they cost $49 unless they've gone up

Here is a link for them:

Add 5 ponies


Red ones look to be out of stock:

"red scoops back order for a few more weeks"

Seem to be selling like hot cakes...hmmmm.

[skychismo]

Originally Posted by TorqueAddict

I am planning to buy these soon as i am convinced by this thread that they add 5+ hp and help lower intake temps. I think i am gonna go with red ones. They add style as well.

I thought all the 5 hp talk was sarcasm. Five hp on a dyno is a negligible amount and doesn't really tell you much. You could easily get a 5 hp variation on the same car. You could also manipulate smoothing factors and make a dyno read whatever you want.

[GreekboyD]

Originally Posted by skychismo

I thought all the 5 hp talk was sarcasm. Five hp on a dyno is a negligible amount and doesn't really tell you much. You could easily get a 5 hp variation on the same car. You could also manipulate smoothing factors and make a dyno read whatever you want.

Gotta side with Axel and TorqueAddict on this one. A buddy of mine has seen HPSG (Horse Power Scoop Gains) as high as 10-15!

[GottaBeKD]

Originally Posted by skychismo

I thought all the 5 hp talk was sarcasm. Five hp on a dyno is a negligible amount and doesn't really tell you much. You could easily get a 5 hp variation on the same car. You could also manipulate smoothing factors and make a dyno read whatever you want.

Setting up a methane collector in the seats would probably yield the same gains.

[skychismo]

Originally Posted by GreekboyD

Gotta side with Axel and TorqueAddict on this one. A buddy of mine has seen HPSG (Horse Power Scoop Gains) as high as 10-15!

And my coursing makes $9,000 a month working from home on her computer! Sounds like your friend's dyno numbers are being manipulated. 10-15 hp from a scoop in front of your turbo is a ridiculous claim. That's a laughable comment to anyone who knows anything about modifying cars. This is Honda kid fart can and giant wing levels of humor.

[Built4Sin]

Perhaps its been said, but diesel engines don't typically suffer from air flow in power production. Fuel is what creates power here... Once you've started creating clouds of black smoke, either your tune is horrible and/or you've just discovered you need more air!

Now watching the threads of DPF deletes and EGR tunes with the eco tunes, I don't see anyone claiming to be rolling coal enough to warrant more air.

What am I missing?

[GottaBeKD]

IMHO... The only way to prove the benefit of these scoops is to graph actual vs desired boost. Build a sample set of with and without under identical conditions.

If you see a convergence of actual vs desired then they are effective. Else they look cool and block airflow into an already hot engine bay.

[Puerto Rican 335d]

why is everyone overheated on these scoops as I have stated no dyno comparos have been performed by me on this topic,but the feeling is there when you go over 70 mph or should I say step on it after 70 mph. No one here has done more dyno than I have( I beleive its 4 or 5 dynos, unless someone else has done more they're cordially invited) I believe so, I hv done OEM dyno RENNtech dyno numbers and soon the DPF delete and egr delete and downpipe. So if anyone wants to do it w the scoops please do so, I like them for the looks and the advantage that the air is scooped up from the front of the radiators which BTW is cooler air

[TorqueAddict]

Originally Posted by skychismo

I thought all the 5 hp talk was sarcasm. Five hp on a dyno is a negligible amount and doesn't really tell you much. You could easily get a 5 hp variation on the same car. You could also manipulate smoothing factors and make a dyno read whatever you want.

They Claim that RED ones add 10HP. Black ones may be 7.

[GreekboyD]

Originally Posted by TorqueAddict

They Claim that RED ones add 10HP. Black ones may be 7.

Link?

[TorqueAddict]

@greekboyD : it has been discussed over and over again, and you are still asking for a link bro?

[skychismo]

Originally Posted by TorqueAddict

@greekboyD : it has been discussed over and over again, and you are still asking for a link bro?

The fact he thought you were serious scares me.

[2deerwhistlers]

Originally Posted by Built4Sin

Perhaps its been said, but diesel engines don't typically suffer from air flow in power production. Fuel is what creates power here... Once you've started creating clouds of black smoke, either your tune is horrible and/or you've just discovered you need more air!

Now watching the threads of DPF deletes and EGR tunes with the eco tunes, I don't see anyone claiming to be rolling coal enough to warrant more air.

What am I missing?

I'm rolling out plenty of black smoke .. Still.. I would never consider this useless mod

[skychismo]

Originally Posted by 2deerwhistlers

I'm rolling out plenty of black smoke .. Still.. I would never consider this useless mod

If you can dye the smoke red you'll net 5-15 extra hp.

[GreekboyD]

Originally Posted by skychismo

If you can dye the smoke red you'll net 5-15 extra hp.

Link?

[GottaBeKD]

Originally Posted by skychismo

If you can dye the smoke red you'll net 5-15 extra hp.

You mean the smoke does not match the scoops?

[dzlmoose]

Originally Posted by skychismo

If you can dye the smoke red you'll net 5-15 extra hp.

I hope you are not serious man.

Plus were are talking about scoops man.