[Jsoboti]

Originally Posted by Newguy123

Well I just picked up the ER intercooler. I have PLENTY of before logs where my IATs with the stock fmic go from 95*-160* on multi gear pulls where ambient is 80*. YES this is affecting my timing. It will be interesting to see some hard data differences with this fmic including pressure drop. I should be installing it tomorrow night and have logs to follow. I don't know why no one is posting logs with similar ambient temps of stock and aftermarket inter coolers. Dark hold seems to be one of the only users I'm seeing with HARD data. So hopefully my findings with the ER will help out someone in the future decide what they want or if it's even worth it.

Awesome! Keep us updated

[paradoxical3]

I switched from the smaller wagner core to the ER core.

The ER is better in every way. It is a far more effective core. It outperforms the Wagner by about 20f on intake temps. With the wagner on the stock turbo I could easily hit 150f+ IAT which is crazy. The end tanks are also a far smoother flowing design.

I believe the ER to be the best core on the market. The size is about 6in deep - it performs better than the 5in cores, but has less pressure drop than the big VRSF cores. To me, it seems to be the ideal balance performance-wise. I have about five trackdays on mine now and it performs flawlessly.

[Tiago@VRSF]

Originally Posted by paradoxical3

I switched from the smaller wagner core to the ER core.

The ER is better in every way. It is a far more effective core. It outperforms the Wagner by about 20f on intake temps. With the wagner on the stock turbo I could easily hit 150f+ IAT which is crazy. The end tanks are also a far smoother flowing design.

I believe the ER to be the best core on the market. The size is about 6in deep - it performs better than the 5in cores, but has less pressure drop than the big VRSF cores. To me, it seems to be the ideal balance performance-wise. I have about five trackdays on mine now and it performs flawlessly.

While I agree that the ER is a nice core and that you don't want to hit 150 degree intake temps with ANY aftermarket intercooler, I wouldn't claim the ER has less pressure drop than our core without testing it back to back. Almost every shop's "pressure drop" testing is done via different methods.

There is no noticeable lag/response loss from going from the OEM core to our 7" core

[porschekenz]

The ER Intercooler uses the same core as the intercoolers I bought for my Porsche. The cores are superior to every other core used for Porsche builds. This is why I purchased the ER intercooler for my BMW.

[Tiago@VRSF]

I'm not doubting the performance of the ER core, I think they make a pretty good intercooler. If that's a Spearco or a Bell core like I expected, it's going to have as much or more pressure drop than ours, not less.

[Newguy123]

What a lengthy install that was. Took some pics and a few videos. I would say that's a 4 hour job for someone that hasn't done an ER N55 install. (This was using a lift and all the proper tools like a badass dremel for all the trimming) haven't taken logs yet but it feels faster in 4-5th. Maybe a tad slower in 2nd and about the same in 3rd. Logs will tell us everything. Keep yah posted

[PeterPure]

Originally Posted by Newguy123

What a lengthy install that was. Took some pics and a few videos. I would say that's a 4 hour job for someone that hasn't done an ER N55 install. (This was using a lift and all the proper tools like a badass dremel for all the trimming) haven't taken logs yet but it feels faster in 4-5th. Maybe a tad slower in 2nd and about the same in 3rd. Logs will tell us everything. Keep yah posted

Send me some logs max boost

[Newguy123]

Originally Posted by Darkhold

Send me some logs max boost

Yup just waking up I will in a bit!

[SWalters]

Just curious...

Has anyone experimented with liquid/air intercoolers? I've seen kits that have 9x3.5x3.5 cores, pump, radiator...everything for the entire install for $300.00 - even the fan.

I know the new ZL1 supercharged camaros use liquid/air cooling, and anything the factory adopts generally has some pretty impressive potential - even if it's underplayed by the time it actually hits production.

Seems to me that at the very least, IAT's would have less of a swing between the extremes, bringing the scale of temps to a narrower band. One manufacturer I've looked at claims pressure drop of LESS than 0.1 PSI. The cores are smaller, and they don't require exposure to airflow, so they can mount anywhere. Seems like you could do tons of different things...WOT switching for pump/fan speed, different radiator sizes, exotic fluids...

So anyway...has anyone tried or even considered it?

[PeterPure]

Originally Posted by paradoxical3

I switched from the smaller wagner core to the ER core.

The ER is better in every way. It is a far more effective core. It outperforms the Wagner by about 20f on intake temps. With the wagner on the stock turbo I could easily hit 150f+ IAT which is crazy. The end tanks are also a far smoother flowing design.

I believe the ER to be the best core on the market. The size is about 6in deep - it performs better than the 5in cores, but has less pressure drop than the big VRSF cores. To me, it seems to be the ideal balance performance-wise. I have about five trackdays on mine now and it performs flawlessly.

Wagner has different model fmics for E series n55 right? Each with different performance i believe?

Anyways i have a meth kit installed and with ambients of 60 or 95, my IAT never go over 90 in a 3/4/5/6th gear pull. Even when starting at 110 the meth drops iat to 75 then goes up to 85-90 and stays there. When starting at 75 it also goes up to 85ish and stays there as well. Iat's of 150 are just insane. I am running a wagner competition fmic on my F20 135.

I also tested a forge unit and while iat's were lower at 75ish my 60-120 times dropped 0.5 seconds due to the 2 psi pressure drop it caused. The wagner flows almost same as stock unit.

I happily test the ER unit thats available for F22. It should fit my car as well. Or any other brand like vrsf if they have something available and willing to send a unit over.

[dcaron9999]

Originally Posted by paradoxical3

I switched from the smaller wagner core to the ER core.

The ER is better in every way. It is a far more effective core. It outperforms the Wagner by about 20f on intake temps. With the wagner on the stock turbo I could easily hit 150f+ IAT which is crazy. The end tanks are also a far smoother flowing design.

I believe the ER to be the best core on the market. The size is about 6in deep - it performs better than the 5in cores, but has less pressure drop than the big VRSF cores. To me, it seems to be the ideal balance performance-wise. I have about five trackdays on mine now and it performs flawlessly.

Im really happy to read this. Orderded my black anodized ER FMIC and ER CP for my N55 135i about a week ago, and hope to receive it before my next lapping day.

[Newguy123]

I have the exact same set up as you black ER CP and also black ER FMIC. Just got FMIC logged and it looks to be 1psi pressure drop up to 6k and about 2psi above 6k. No more sky rocketing IATs on my multi gear pulls like the stock fmic nearly hitting 160* on a similar pull to this with same ambient temps. All in all I'm pretty happy. Hitting the So cal euro event tomorrow to make a few 1/8th mile passes.