Jlevi SW | Vorsteiner E92 Vented Race Hood (No Powerdome) GB - SUBMIT YOUR DESIGN

jgalaxy · 01-05-2008, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jgalaxy

I had depicted a 3" vent adjacent to the window. Does this make sense? I was thinking that it might help vent some extra heat. Anyone have any thoughts on that?

There must be some other suggestions out there. Come on folks get those easels out.

After having been in the minus 20s for the last few days I finally got a chance to lift the hood and see where it actually makes sense to place vents. The 3" vent area adjacent to the windshield proposed won't work as that area is not directly open to the engine. I'll try a hand at Adobe Photo Elements later tonight.

Back in a Subie · 01-05-2008, 08:30 PM

Ok, is this more along the lines? smaller side vents, lower center vent...

ArmyBimmerDude · 01-05-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mi330xi

Ok, is this more along the lines? smaller side vents, lower center vent...

YES!

jgalaxy · 01-05-2008, 08:51 PM

To give everyone perspective on where the vents are with respect to engine inerds I've posted a sample of where I measured placement of the vents. Its now a question of how much larger to make the vents and general angles. Do the vents need to be larger on the sides or need to get extended towards the front more ... Your feedback is valued.

Something I have noticed with the winter driving is that the area immediately over the radiator is the warmest on the whole car as it melts the snow and dries the quickest. Makes me wonder if it is worth considering placing a vent there.

This really needs to be done with CAD, so if anyone knows of a decent trialware CAD app I'm game to learn it.

jgalaxy · 01-05-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

YES!

This is much nicer and answers my thoughts about a vent over the radiator. Nice one!

hl0m4n · 01-05-2008, 08:55 PM

why not just use the original design? it thus far looks the best. just adjust the curves a bit so it matches the e92 and it perfect. i plan on getting the closed vents so...

SV Concepts III · 01-05-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mi330xi

Ok, is this more along the lines? smaller side vents, lower center vent...

That's AMAZING although I would do without the front center vent. Great work so far guys!

c0nstant · 01-06-2008, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GAMEOVR

I know, but it looks pretty bad with no bump.... sorry just imo.....

+1

bullmrkt · 01-06-2008, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick@Jlevi SW

That's AMAZING although I would do without the front center vent. Great work so far guys!

No its perfect! The front center vent is the only one that needs to be there really. All the heat from the radiator is concentrated in that area as someone else has again mentioned with the snow example (I used rain, wet hood). The other two are really not needed but do look pretty cool.

Back in a Subie · 01-06-2008, 02:05 AM

did i win the thread? lol just kidding

glad you all like this one better. i can do up one without the center vent, also without the side vents as well if you want...

BMW F22 · 01-06-2008, 02:44 AM

Wow I really like the design with 2 vents on either side of the hood

Yellow_Belly · 01-06-2008, 06:27 AM

sounds cool, il have a go

SV Concepts III · 01-06-2008, 02:01 PM

Well we have two designs so far, we're looking for at least 3 more.

Lane · 01-06-2008, 03:13 PM

Front center vent is a must. Heat gets up easily from the front because it is a low pressure area. Moreover it is the same spot where is the most of the heat. Mitsu Evo vent is not in the front center by chance. It has also a perfect design.

bullmrkt · 01-06-2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lane

Front center vent is a must. Heat gets up easily from the front because it is a low pressure area. Moreover it is the same spot where is the most of the heat. Mitsu Evo vent is not in the front center by chance. It has also a perfect design.

+1,000,000. I wouldn't buy the hood unless it has something in this area because of this reason.

Something like this vent up at the front over the radiator to draw the heat out. I'd bet this would actually make the radiator more efficient.

jgalaxy · 01-06-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bullmrkt

+1,000,000. I wouldn't buy the hood unless it has something in this area because of this reason.

Something like this vent up at the front over the radiator to draw the heat out. I'd bet this would actually make the radiator more efficient.

I agree with bullmrkt. Now that it is a little more human outside, I've been able to run a few more tests. After running the car medium hard for 50 minutes (ambient outside temp 2C) the front center spot, just over the radiator, ran 20C (36F) warmer than the side vents depicted in either of the two designs. I'm voting for the design with the front center vent.

xxballinboi786 · 01-06-2008, 08:50 PM

Jlevi...are you guys going to be creating a design to enter this as well? thatd be cool, + it would be one less design needed by forum members!

hl0m4n · 01-06-2008, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnymu

I hope the member of this car doesn't mind me using for photoshop.

A nice forum member put this together.
It's a start

lets see some more designs!!!

my vote. i just love the original design.

BMW F22 · 01-08-2008, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by xxballinboi786

Jlevi...are you guys going to be creating a design to enter this as well? thatd be cool, + it would be one less design needed by forum members!

We definitely will try to create a design soon.

BMW F22 · 01-08-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hl0m4n

my vote. i just love the original design.

That one gets my vote as well.

Lane · 01-08-2008, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnymu

I hope the member of this car doesn't mind me using for photoshop.

A nice forum member put this together.
It's a start

lets see some more designs!!!

This could be also functional if only the vents would join and actually go across the hood from left to right. Moreover, now the wide big vent could strecth slightly more forward.

Although vent in the very front on the top of the radiator would be great, I think we could compromise it being slightly further back as far as it is not too far behind the radiator.

I would like to see if we are going to see intakes with cone filters in the engine bay in the near future. If they perform well, I would definitely need to have a hood sucking the hot air out.

SV Concepts III · 01-08-2008, 04:59 PM

I would make those vents smaller on the side and add a center vent. Maybe get rid of the vents that are on the inside of the crease and add a center vent.

Also remember, these vents are designed to release heat...not suck in cold air. You will see on hot or cold days that heat will be radiating from the hood.

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jgalaxy Gearing 87 Rep 3,962 Posts Drives: E46 M3, F22 M240 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Out East Canada iTrader: (3)	To give everyone perspective on where the vents are with respect to engine inerds I've posted a sample of where I measured placement of the vents. Its now a question of how much larger to make the vents and general angles. Do the vents need to be larger on the sides or need to get extended towards the front more ... Your feedback is valued. Something I have noticed with the winter driving is that the area immediately over the radiator is the warmest on the whole car as it melts the snow and dries the quickest. Makes me wonder if it is worth considering placing a vent there. This really needs to be done with CAD, so if anyone knows of a decent trialware CAD app I'm game to learn it. __________________ If at first you don't succeed ... Last edited by jgalaxy; 01-30-2009 at 12:42 PM..
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SV Concepts III Lieutenant General 382 Rep 16,968 Posts Drives: BMW Duh Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Santa Clara iTrader: (13)	I would make those vents smaller on the side and add a center vent. Maybe get rid of the vents that are on the inside of the crease and add a center vent. Also remember, these vents are designed to release heat...not suck in cold air. You will see on hot or cold days that heat will be radiating from the hood.
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