Dyno Results PROcede V2 100%tq - 100 octane

NPDAN · 01-04-2008, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by down4it

I Pretty much made the exact same numbers as Dan with my setup... Running the procede at 94% across the board and on 94 octane... I guess the FMIC, intake, and DP's do something... I think if i was 100% across the board and 100oct i would have seen much more power... I need that DP map so i can run 100% and then Dyno here i come

Also Shiv, would there be much benifit in a custom tune by you on my car?

you will for sure bro.

RiXst3r · 01-04-2008, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ontopofm

wow, Terry's curves look very flat on both torque and power

looks more like procede v1 torque curves... only with more power

v2 seems to be kinda bumpy

down4it · 01-04-2008, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Doesn't matter. Terry is back to his old tricks.

Shiv

How come you dont post up your personal dyno's all day Shiv

Terrys car makes power and its cool that it makes what it does but no other JB customer has ever come close to Terrys numbers on a Dyno... I would like to know why

TTBM · 01-04-2008, 06:37 PM

where do you guys dyno?

OpenFlash · 01-04-2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by down4it

How come you dont post up your personal dyno's all day Shiv

Terrys car makes power and its cool that it makes what it does but no other JB customer has ever come close to Terrys numbers on a Dyno... I would like to know why

+1.

NPDAN · 01-04-2008, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by that guy nico

good stuff dan. im glad you finally decided to try 100% out on the new map. im sure it still needs some adapting to do but i dont blame you - this weather right now sucks and will only get worse on the weekend

Cool thing is, now that it's at 100%, I'll keep the setting here. Now, I'll start some data logging...

ontopofm · 01-04-2008, 06:44 PM

shiv, please flatten those curves

Kbueno · 01-04-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NPDAN

Cool thing is, now that it's at 100%, I'll keep the setting here. Now, I'll start some data logging...

I ran 100% for a tank, but the gas price is too much!! Yes, please post some data logs...I only saw boost in the high 14s. Interesting to see the choppy adaptation dyno....I would assume it would smooth out once it has more time to adapt?

OpenFlash · 01-04-2008, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ontopofm

shiv, please flatten those curves

The only results that aren't smooth are Dan's first two runs (while in the process of adapting to race gas) and Adam's one-off beta map which was too aggressive for the conditions. Terry will make it as difficult as possible for the casual observer to see that. And he will compare them to his own car that magically makes 30-50whp more than any customer JB result posted on this forum.

Shiv

e36jakeo · 01-04-2008, 06:52 PM

400 WHP and all that useable torque is NUTS! Although 100 octane is expensive, if you get an intake it takes advantage of its extra potential to the tune of 40 WHP. That is a big gain, and maybe worth it when you are going out to raise some hell.

335iheLLraiseR · 01-04-2008, 06:52 PM

great numbers dan, any idea how much boost you are running now at 100%?

I too went to thedyno but had problems overboosting because of the weather

Kbueno · 01-04-2008, 06:54 PM

Isn't there a smoothing factor that's applied to these curves?

OpenFlash · 01-04-2008, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 335lvr

Isn't there a smoothing factor that's applied to these curves?

The same smoothing factor is applied to all the curve. That smoothening wont account for gross sampling bias.

Shiv

Terry335 · 01-04-2008, 07:03 PM

Do actions still speak louder than words? Here is Dan's chart, Josh's chart (a JB customer), and my chart, all with the stock air box, all on 100 octane mixes.

PS. Josh and I both have $600 UR downpipes and the factory catback systems.

tek818 · 01-04-2008, 07:04 PM

very nice #'s dan... I need to re-dyno at LAPD badly! Like yours, my car wasn't adapted at all to 2.0.2. Did you still want to get your secondary cats deleted? The shop that did mine and deck's is pretty close to LAPD...

Terry, you should take mine off the graph for now till I get some clean runs in

NPDAN · 01-04-2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 335iheLLraiseR

great numbers dan, any idea how much boost you are running now at 100%?

I too went to thedyno but had problems overboosting because of the weather

When did you go? Im going again next week after my car has had a chance to fully adapt. Im also going to remove the stock airbox and filter for the runs... I'll for sure blow these numbers away at the next dyno...

Terry335 · 01-04-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NPDAN

Keep in mind, I changed my tq settings right before I went to dyno and DID NOT let the car adapt correctly or long enough... I was not on boost at all for the 20 or so miles I drove to get there. I averaged like 35 MPH + I had the stock air filter lid on.

No worries, this isn't a contest. Just posting up the data for people that find that kind of thing interesting. I think with downpipes you'd pickup 10-15rw.

Kbueno · 01-04-2008, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

The same smoothing factor is applied to all the curve. That smoothening wont account for gross sampling bias.

Shiv

I meant when comparing to Terry's...i.e were the same smoothing factors used?

OpenFlash · 01-04-2008, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry335

Do actions still speak louder than words? Here is Dan's chart, Josh's chart (a JB customer), and my chart, all with the stock air box, all on 100 octane mixes.

Why are you even comparing Dan's subjectively worst-of-three clearly nonadapted runs to hand selected runs of fully adapted cars with more mods (downpipes) done on a different day? This is what makes me question your integrity more than anything else. I know you know better. Yet you count on most of the forum readers being none the wiser.

Shiv

Terry335 · 01-04-2008, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Why are you even comparing Dan's worst-of-three clearly nonadapted runs to hand selected runs of fully adapted cars with more mods (downpipes)? This is what makes me question your integrity more than anything else. I know you know better. Yet you count on most of the forum readers being none the wiser.

Shiv

Why are you addrsesing me with an attitude? The run posted was his 3rd run, most fully adapted by your account. His others looked really bad to be honest but I will post if you want.

down4it · 01-04-2008, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry335

See post below with Josh's dyno charts.

That is the first time i have ever seen a JB customer with those kind of numbers... Looks good... Why does your car make like 30WHP & 60WTQ more than his though if you guys are running almost the same mods? Just wondering...

01-04-2008, 07:11 PM

wasnt shiv just saying dan's 3rd run was how you can tell the car was an example of the car adapting and that it still has more to go?

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Terry335 Banned 106 Rep 2,587 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Socal iTrader: (0)	Do actions still speak louder than words? Here is Dan's chart, Josh's chart (a JB customer), and my chart, all with the stock air box, all on 100 octane mixes. PS. Josh and I both have $600 UR downpipes and the factory catback systems.
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