Wastegate needs to be replaced.

AWD Addict · 02-13-2008, 12:14 AM

Oops, I totally misspoke. Of course the mitsus are internal. :embarrassed: Kind of obnoxious given I've owned them since 2001.

AWD Addict · 02-13-2008, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by O-cha

I can't believe the things you say, first claiming an intercooler will melt your cats, now your telling people these are external wastegates.

Did you really ever tune a turbo car? Or was that boost controller you said you used that almost blew your motor the extent of your tuning?

I never said an intercooler will melt your cats.

YEs, I did tune a turbo car.

The EBC wasn't the extent of my tuning.

whatever. Misspost. Don't be a douche.

.:bHd:. · 02-13-2008, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MonacoTT

Are you sure that you have the same ticking (coming from the turbo wastegate).

If so I would demand having it replaced citing that this issue can have effects on boost pressure which is a serious concern to you.

You can also site the fact that you know several other people who had the issue and had their turbos replaced due to the issue.

If they continue to be stubborn, try a different dealer or open up a case with BMWNA.

I told them exactly what you just said. They know that it's the wastegate and won't do anything about it until they have a solution for it. My SA gave me attitude and said that the other dealers might have jumped to conclusions by replacing the turbos. I guess i'll take it somewhere else. Where did you take yours?

AU335 · 02-23-2008, 06:54 PM

having the same ticking noise from my car. Its been doing it for awhile now. I guess i need to take a visit to my dealer

Serjames · 02-24-2008, 03:59 AM

be sure not to confuse the direct injection, which "ticks" with this failure.

Has anyone found a good way to confirm the diagnosis, short of taking the turbos out ?

SJ

wj4 · 02-24-2008, 04:31 AM

Monaco-just curious to know what dealership did you go with?

MonacoTT · 02-25-2008, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Brisk

we need videos or sound clips, there too many damn clicking involved.

just to clarify as i said, when i rev the engine to 3k and let it settle i hear no type of clicking on up revs or down revs

If you don't hear in on RPM decelleration, then you don't have this problem.

It's brutally obvious when you listen for it. Very loud buzz.

Fraposo · 03-03-2008, 07:48 PM

I have to agree, that it is "brutally obvious" and it pretty much impossible to miss. I have the same problem, you rev up to about 3k or 4k and as the RPM's settle the clicking is apparent.

I took my car to the service department here at the BMW dealership in Ontario CA, and they gave me a call at 4:30pm (dropped off at 7am) and told me that the problem is definitely the wastegate. They have ordered the part and will receive it on wednesday. They estimate that they will be done replacing the part this friday and if not by friday by the following monday for sure. I may pick up the car tomorrow morning if I get the chance so I can record the sound and post it up for everyone, but I don't want to give everyone too much hope since I may not be able to pick it up.

For anyone that has the same problem I suggest you take it to your dealer and tell them that other dealers are taking care of the problem promptly. I will get back to this thread with more information as I am informed! Good luck to everyone!

AU335 · 03-03-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fraposo

I have to agree, that it is "brutally obvious" and it pretty much impossible to miss. I have the same problem, you rev up to about 3k or 4k and as the RPM's settle the clicking is apparent.

I took my car to the service department here at the BMW dealership in Ontario CA, and they gave me a call at 4:30pm (dropped off at 7am) and told me that the problem is definitely the wastegate. They have ordered the part and will receive it on wednesday. They estimate that they will be done replacing the part this friday and if not by friday by the following monday for sure. I may pick up the car tomorrow morning if I get the chance so I can record the sound and post it up for everyone, but I don't want to give everyone too much hope since I may not be able to pick it up.

For anyone that has the same problem I suggest you take it to your dealer and tell them that other dealers are taking care of the problem promptly. I will get back to this thread with more information as I am informed! Good luck to everyone!

yeah i have the same problem. Just called my dealership today and am taking my car in this Thursday. I told them the issue and said i thought it was the wastegate....hopefully everything will be resolved.

Here is a soundclip of mine...

very annoying for our cars to make such noises

Fraposo · 03-03-2008, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Brisk

good think its clear. thanks for the explanation.
btw was ur car stock? u can pm me if u want.

My car is bone stock. The only "mod" (if you even want to categorize it as a "mod") that I've done to my car is the "golf-tee mod", which in no way should affect the car in any negative way according to other threads on this forum. Besides that I have not done anything to the car. I noticed the "clicking" sound at around 9k miles from what I remember. It could have started before, but it was not apparent until 9k or so. I am now at 14k miles. Once the repair is done I will get back to this thread and post the results.

PS: The clicking noise that I had is pretty much identical to the video posted above by AU335, except my clicking was not as "loud" during idle, but definitely the same as the "revving" portion of the video.

AU335 · 03-04-2008, 03:25 PM

Here is a new Soundclip of mine. This is with no mods....both JB2HR and CAI have been removed since last videoclip i made. Taking my car in Thursday to hopefully get this issue fixed...

rideelement247 · 03-04-2008, 06:53 PM

Hooray another problem for our cars to experience. First fuel pumps, sometimes injectors, now wastegates?

I have noticed the clicking noise on startup a little but the it goes away until it is barely audible. 3K rev and same thing, kinda loud for 1 sec, then sounds fine, nothing like AU is experiencing.

Good luck getting everything fixed guys, I too am stock for now until I have the time to remove the rest of my mods to bring it into the dealer

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Fraposo · 03-04-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rideelement247

Hooray another problem for our cars to experience. First fuel pumps, sometimes injectors, now wastegates?

I have noticed the clicking noise on startup a little but the it goes away until it is barely audible. 3K rev and same thing, kinda loud for 1 sec, then sounds fine, nothing like AU is experiencing.

Good luck getting everything fixed guys, I too am stock for now until I have the time to remove the rest of my mods to bring it into the dealer

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The "clicking" with my car began the same way. Only on startup and then would completely disappear, but then after awhile it became audible at all times.

If you hear the beginnings of this sound just take it in, but make sure you request a technician to come out so you can demonstrate the sound and that way it is documented that the technician heard it. Dealers can be tricky and will sometimes say that they couldn't "replicate" the sound and just give the car back without doing anything to it. This has happened to me a couple of times and it makes me really mad. So now I always request a technician to come out and discuss the problem with me. Good luck!

rideelement247 · 03-04-2008, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fraposo

The "clicking" with my car began the same way. Only on startup and then would completely disappear, but then after awhile it became audible at all times.

If you hear the beginnings of this sound just take it in, but make sure you request a technician to come out so you can demonstrate the sound and that way it is documented that the technician heard it. Dealers can be tricky and will sometimes say that they couldn't "replicate" the sound and just give the car back without doing anything to it. This has happened to me a couple of times and it makes me really mad. So now I always request a technician to come out and discuss the problem with me. Good luck!

I am bringing the car in for service for the fuel pump(I assume its that causing me limps and rough idling, etc). I guess if I remeber to mention it, I will but won't worry about it until it gets worse. I swear I am going to dump this car if I have another problem with it. This is my 2nd 335i with fuel pump problems.

Fraposo · 03-17-2008, 03:17 PM

Just got my car back from the dealer. Took longer than expected, approximately 9 days. I have posted all the specifics including my service form with all the parts that were ordered and replaced. The ticking noise/rattling is completely gone so far. Check out the other thread where I posted this information. I hope it can be useful

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...27#post2319627

ar design · 03-17-2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hotrod2448

Really? I'm pretty sure my Evo had a Mitsu turbo on it and it was internally gated just like these are. In fact I don;t think I've ever seen an OEM street car application that had an external wastegate.

Maybe you should learn WTF you are talking about before you go spreading "knowledge".

A lot of older Audis were externally gated. And probably a number of other older cars I am not aware of

hotrod2448 · 03-17-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by a/r design

A lot of older Audis were externally gated. And probably a number of other older cars I am not aware of

Interesting. I never got into any of the old turbo cars. IME most of the fairly modern stuff has been internally gated.

I wasn't as concerned about that as I was people not being confused about the turbos on this car.

ar design · 03-17-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hotrod2448

IME most of the fairly modern stuff has been internally gated.

True.

And yes, ours are most def. internally gated

XLR8MF · 03-17-2008, 04:30 PM

Just wondering if this is inevitable for all cars. Can anyone post how many miles they have that does not have this problem. Just curious if anyone has 15000 + miles and no wastegate problems.

Bubbles · 03-17-2008, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by XLR8MF

Just wondering if this is inevitable for all cars. Can anyone post how many miles they have that does not have this problem. Just curious if anyone has 15000 + miles and no wastegate problems.

No issues here @16k+.

sfury · 03-17-2008, 04:57 PM

going good at 18K+

XLR8MF · 03-17-2008, 05:47 PM

damn that's good to here. I know your car doing well does not mean mine will do well but it is still nice to hear some people doing ok. My car has RR dp's so I hear the turbos whine easily but no strange sounds on decel. Car has some clicking at idle but I think it is just the direct injection. Either way I find myself leaning over like O-cha said listening all the time.

My neighbors look at me like what the hell is he doing. Car is doing well but I am slightly paranoid now. Thanks

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Fraposo Private First Class 1 Rep 130 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Sedan/AW/Terra Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ontario, Ca iTrader: (0)	I have to agree, that it is "brutally obvious" and it pretty much impossible to miss. I have the same problem, you rev up to about 3k or 4k and as the RPM's settle the clicking is apparent. I took my car to the service department here at the BMW dealership in Ontario CA, and they gave me a call at 4:30pm (dropped off at 7am) and told me that the problem is definitely the wastegate. They have ordered the part and will receive it on wednesday. They estimate that they will be done replacing the part this friday and if not by friday by the following monday for sure. I may pick up the car tomorrow morning if I get the chance so I can record the sound and post it up for everyone, but I don't want to give everyone too much hope since I may not be able to pick it up. For anyone that has the same problem I suggest you take it to your dealer and tell them that other dealers are taking care of the problem promptly. I will get back to this thread with more information as I am informed! Good luck to everyone!
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rideelement247 Lieutenant Colonel 61 Rep 1,677 Posts Drives: 08 335i, 67 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2007 Location: South Florida iTrader: (2)	Hooray another problem for our cars to experience. First fuel pumps, sometimes injectors, now wastegates? I have noticed the clicking noise on startup a little but the it goes away until it is barely audible. 3K rev and same thing, kinda loud for 1 sec, then sounds fine, nothing like AU is experiencing. Good luck getting everything fixed guys, I too am stock for now until I have the time to remove the rest of my mods to bring it into the dealer . __________________ Legal Disclaimer: Anything I or anyone else says about my vehicle on this website(e90post.com or any affiliated or nonaffiliated sites), pertaining to modifications, is only to gain acceptance from my/our peers, and does not actually represent anything actually existing on my car, and thus, cannot be held against me in any issues, i.e. warranty claims, that may arise.
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Fraposo Private First Class 1 Rep 130 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Sedan/AW/Terra Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ontario, Ca iTrader: (0)	Just got my car back from the dealer. Took longer than expected, approximately 9 days. I have posted all the specifics including my service form with all the parts that were ordered and replaced. The ticking noise/rattling is completely gone so far. Check out the other thread where I posted this information. I hope it can be useful http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...27#post2319627
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XLR8MF Captain 28 Rep 631 Posts Drives: 335i sedan 2008 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mesa iTrader: (6)	Just wondering if this is inevitable for all cars. Can anyone post how many miles they have that does not have this problem. Just curious if anyone has 15000 + miles and no wastegate problems.
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XLR8MF Captain 28 Rep 631 Posts Drives: 335i sedan 2008 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mesa iTrader: (6)	damn that's good to here. I know your car doing well does not mean mine will do well but it is still nice to hear some people doing ok. My car has RR dp's so I hear the turbos whine easily but no strange sounds on decel. Car has some clicking at idle but I think it is just the direct injection. Either way I find myself leaning over like O-cha said listening all the time. My neighbors look at me like what the hell is he doing. Car is doing well but I am slightly paranoid now. Thanks
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