[APTF]

Originally Posted by BuraQ

Hehehe, I like your style Alex. Time slips should be good enough, No ?

Terry knows this car very well here in Florida

http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-26393.html

He "was" the first an ONLY N54 on stock turbos to break 121 mph on PBIR track. It was negative DA, he gutted his car ie major weight reduction, JB4 + backend Flash from Terry, Meth, race gas, and E85 mix, also he weighed less than 130 lbs, and had less that 1/4 tank of gas. And was ONLY able to break 121 mph ONE time

Same lane on same track, warmer weather, full weight, half tank of gas, driver (me) 260 lbs, broke his speed trap record, with a horrible 60 foot, and was consistant, I didnt use meth, no race gas, no weight reduction, only E60, not cattless..... Need proof ? http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1068653

Need video ? Here I am turtling out the hole so I dont break anything

That same car and driver pulled on me with PTF tune, Terry knows about that to, and I think I shared it with D. That pissed me off, and was another reason why I went my own direction.

I got plenty of 335is out their catless with the same tune, and I am sure you going to hear more when summer comes. Please stand by

Better yet I promise you this we will be the first one's in the 10s on stock frames

Yes, your car trapped 121, I'm well aware. Your car and your car only. Also it's an IS with DCT. I trapped 120 with no race gas and I'm a 6AT 200lb guy (blinchiki will do that), keep in mind this was on 17psi and over a year ago, before I was protuned. I look forward to the videos and results!

[BQTuning]

Originally Posted by Alex@PTF

Yes, your car trapped 121, I'm well aware. Your car and your car only. Also it's an IS with DCT. I trapped 120 with no race gas and I'm a 6AT 200lb guy (blinchiki will do that), keep in mind this was on 17psi and over a year ago, before I was protuned. I look forward to the videos and results!

It was an IS DCT when PTF PROtuned tuned it, yes ?

You didnt trap 120 mph at PBIR, no ?

60 lbs less, at a different track FBO with catless DPs can work wonders, yes ?

Anyhow, looking forward to the competition

[proTUNING Freaks]

Was that with the blue pill or the red pill? I can't imagine what times you'd run if you took both at the same time LOL

[BQTuning]

Originally Posted by proTUNING Freaks

Was that with the blue pill or the red pill? I can't imagine what times you'd run if you took both at the same time LOL

[proTUNING Freaks]

Originally Posted by BuraQ

It was an IS DCT when PTF PROtuned tuned it, yes ?

You didnt trap 120 mph at PBIR, no ?

60 lbs less, at a different track FBO with catless DPs can work wonders, yes ?

Anyhow, looking forward to the competition

PTF unfortunately doesn't have the budget in place to ship our cars across the continent to various tracks at this time. If we're in Florida we'll line up our 6MT with your DCT

[Island Road]

Now that there are some people here from both camps here is a questions i am wondering.

We know the limit is 1.28bar with car and you can of course go over to around 22psi I think.

Is there ever going to be a release in the future with Cobb or something that they are currently working on that would allow Cobb to be used with ST kits running upwards of 30psi without having to resort to a piggyback? If not could you explain why?

[proTUNING Freaks]

That question unfortunately can only be answered by Cobb. We can only assume that placing higher demand for their BMW AccessPort tuning products and contacting them about this feature would help in shifting priorities/focus to aftermarket N54 single turbo conversions. You can only imagine that demand for such level of tuning even today is relatively quite low compared to all the other existing as well as new platforms they've got on the go.

[musc]

There is my purple pill, lol. And where do we find these 130 lb drivers? lol

You have to keep in mind that the BQ/Wedge Cobb tune is still rather new so it is no surprise that there aren't a ton of videos of races, dyno results etc yet. It's winter and the tracks are closed in some places and what not. Crazy thing is when I search PTF 335i videos they are usually getting pulled on by some JB4 car, lol.

[APTF]

Originally Posted by musc

There is my purple pill, lol. And where do we find these 130 lb drivers? lol

You have to keep in mind that the BQ/Wedge Cobb tune is still rather new so it is no surprise that there aren't a ton of videos of races, dyno results etc yet. It's winter and the tracks are closed in some places and what not. Crazy thing is when I search PTF 335i videos they are usually getting pulled on by some JB4 car, lol.

[cmg5461]

Originally Posted by musc

There is my purple pill, lol. And where do we find these 130 lb drivers? lol

Where do I sign up?

[jippii ensio]

Originally Posted by Alex@PTF

I've been around the N54 scene for over 5 years. I'm far from new and I know about everyone in the community. I appreciate you trying to help though.

Then you should know that you saying Jake's name is irrelevant is quite an understatement since without him PTF might not even exist and a lot of PTF tuning out there has been done co-managed by him and even personally tuned by him. I don't get why you try to even deny his relevance to PTF since he has been tuning for longer than you, right? My apologies if I didn't see the Corky Bell in you based on reading your posts in the forum. What is your screen name before you turned into Alex@PTF? I promise to read your posts if you've been around with an alias and re-evaluate you.

[proTUNING Freaks]

There is no need to debate/discuss this at all and no one but you jippii ensio ever said Jake was irrelevant. While at PTF, Jake was just as relevant as Dzenno, no more no less, why is this a matter of discussion in this thread? Work was shared right down the middle on all fronts. Tunes were literally split as they came in with one going to Dzenno and the other going to Jake with Nishan helping out for a few months last year.

[jippii ensio]

Fyi (I wonder what he means by this)

Originally Posted by Alex@PTF

Jake is no longer a part of PTF, therefore using his name is irrelevant.

[proTUNING Freaks]

Now that its been explained we hope you can stop wondering.

[WedgePerformance]

Video is cool and so are numbers. This year should be interesting.

Alex@PTF, we need to do a VBOX Competition thread and have call outs. Do something fun rather than just talk about it.



BTW, Drag Times...

[proTUNING Freaks]

So he got a better launch and the PTF car makes more power given higher trap speed. Great work, whoever drove that XI, but he could've gone low 11s with a PTF tune lol

Dyno runs, 60-130s etc are all great and tons of fun and I see you pushing them as marketing tools all the time, fine, but in reality they don't directly corelate to quality, consistency or attention to detail in a tune.

Example: current 1/4 mile record stock frames is held by LostMarine, 335i with an old version of JB on it, race gas ton of meth and no flash at all. Does that mean it was the greatest tune for an N54? we all know this is not the case but its the record

[likecars]

How do you all find the time to write these marathon replies? 😂

[Surquhar]

Originally Posted by proTUNING Freaks

If the point of this thread is who'll type more, you win! Who really cares about proper engine tuning and principles, its for the weak.

BQ also wins in the "quotation mark" contest. It's very patronizing.

[BQTuning]

Originally Posted by likecars

How do you all find the time to write these marathon replies? ��

Slow time down

[MM Performance]

Originally Posted by proTUNING Freaks

If it weren't for those unfortunate blown motors and seeing a PTF car on the same dyno same day with your car make considerably less power and for Dimitri helping you Wedge tunes would still have those table top 15-16* timing curves out there with literally no consideration of engine theory and tuning principles.

Advice: http://www.efi101.com/ ... SIGN UP!

proTUNING Freaks what blown motors due to wedge/BQ tune do you speak of, please link to post(s)

[Give_Em_The_DD]

Originally Posted by proTUNING Freaks

So he got a better launch and the PTF car makes more power given higher trap speed. Great work, whoever drove that XI, but he could've gone low 11s with a PTF tune lol

Dyno runs, 60-130s etc are all great and tons of fun and I see you pushing them as marketing tools all the time, fine, but in reality they don't directly corelate to quality, consistency or attention to detail in a tune.

Example: current 1/4 mile record stock frames is held by LostMarine, 335i with an old version of JB on it, race gas ton of meth and no flash at all. Does that mean it was the greatest tune for an N54? we all know this is not the case but its the record

I drove the xi car on top of the drag times list.

I appreciate the compliment, i do think I'm an ok driver

That being said....I HAD...a "dialed in PTF" tune on my car, if you go on dragtimes, with my PTF map my best time was an 11.9 and some change. It was my crappy 1/4 time and trap speed that forced me to try and find other solutions.

[proTUNING Freaks]

Your previous drag times record states motiv in the title? Also just want to highlight that unless you specifically requested the most aggressive possible race map from us specifically neither the folks at Motiv or PTF would provide a customer with such a map by default. We always leave a bit on the table and err a little more on the side of consistency, reliability than tune aggression as this is what we found to be the pattern for most customers coming to us for tuning. When people come to us with requests for such tunes our instant response is cautionary as to potential turbo wear first among others and most by far choose to stay a touch on the reliability side.

When you did your tuning did you specifically request a race map? If you want you can pm me your order and I can look at your map unless it was done recently with Motiv in which case we wouldn't have record of it.