[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by BlakeB

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/06/b...ing-rear-axle/ article on the new diff

Good read. Thanks bro...

[O-cha]

Originally Posted by BlakeB

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/06/b...ing-rear-axle/ article on the new diff

Right, that article. All it takes is one person to go "this is going in the 135" then they all believe it and it is now fact.

It's for the X6, it's not in the 135.

[BlakeB]

Originally Posted by O-cha

No, no they don't. They have the exact same open differential as everyone else.

There was ONE article about BMW developing an electronic locking diff (which is going in the X6 by the way for independent wheel torque distribution) and they went bananas over it.

I swear 135 owners are the biggest rumor mill people.

You are right my friend, I must have been duped into integrating the evil 1ers rumors into my general knowledge!! The new diff is for the X models, but if successful I would venture to guess that they will tricilate into the 'lesser' models

[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by BlakeB

You are right my friend, I must have been duped into integrating the evil 1ers rumors into my general knowledge!! The new diff is for the X models, but if successful I would venture to guess that they will tricilate into the 'lesser' models

Still doesn't change the fact that I wont have it when I get my 335i. Dang it...

[BlakeB]

Seems like a number of "first drives" have also been either mistaken on whether the 135i has an electronically-locking diff or not, perhaps BMW decided to nix it to keep the price "down".

[Garrett]

Originally Posted by O-cha

No, no they don't. They have the exact same open differential as everyone else.

There was ONE article about BMW developing an electronic locking diff (which is going in the X6 by the way for independent wheel torque distribution) and they went bananas over it.

I swear 135 owners are the biggest rumor mill people.

OMG bro,

Your first post over at 1addicts didn't go over so well. What set that off..?

BTW, Your usually on top of your game, but some recent news is that the eDiff in the 135i was specifically tuned for that car... extensively!
More is comming in about it but this video should really let you absorb the fact the the 135i is the performance BMW... not the 335i.

The 3 series is as big as the 5 series was in 1997. The 135i is almost the same size as my e46 330ci! Point is, many people have simple dismissed the new 135i as a "baby bimmer" and havn't actually stopped and look at WHY and what this car is.

M-Package standard, 6-Piston Brembos up front!, Special eDiff, 200lbs lighter, highly tuned suspension, cleaner interior... etc. Everything is centered around PERFORMANCE!

Anyways, Have a looksee:

more:

So you can see that it is NOT unexpected that BMW makes the 1 series sans luxury and trades that off for performance and spent a good deal "tuning" the chasis and special eDiff.

[5soko]

There gonna have the same open diff, tuned or not.
1 addicts guys are just rumor junkies and dont even have the guys yet.

[O-cha]

Originally Posted by Garrett

OMG bro,

Your first post over at 1addicts didn't go over so well. What set that off..?

BTW, Your usually on top of your game, but some recent news is that the eDiff in the 135i was specifically tuned for that car... extensively!
More is comming in about it but this video should really let you absorb the fact the the 135i is the performance BMW... not the 335i.

The 3 series is as big as the 5 series was in 1997. The 135i is almost the same size as my e46 330ci! Point is, many people have simple dismissed the new 135i as a "baby bimmer" and havn't actually stopped and look at WHY and what this car is.

M-Package standard, 6-Piston Brembos up front!, Special eDiff, 200lbs lighter, highly tuned suspension, cleaner interior... etc. Everything is centered around PERFORMANCE!

Anyways, Have a looksee:

more:

So you can see that it is NOT unexpected that BMW makes the 1 series sans luxury and trades that off for performance and spent a good deal "tuning" the chasis and special eDiff.

Yes the 135 has a 10cm shorter wheel base and 3cm shorter track. So what? Wheelbase is hardly everything. Good for autocross if that's your thing, but hardly that crucial on a real road course.

Furthermore, find me anywhere OFFICIAL that says that the new Elocking diff is in the 1 series. Please, I will give you a cookie.


Yes the 1 series is marketed as a sporty coupe, MARKETED read the reviews because that's all it is is marketing.


"The electronic limited slip differential comes standard in the all-new 1 Series. The main focus is on promoting a sporty driving style, for instance, when accelerating out of a bend or hairpin turn. An electronic function slows the spinning wheels, thus enhancing the car's traction without any negative effects on its steering behavior."

This is DTC my friend. Just cleverly worded to make people feel special. They have a word for this, it's called marketing.

[BlakeB]

can't we all just get along?

[billspreston]

I would like more data on the intake. The 135 is sweet - we all share the same engine now so that means we can talk shop and learn about these parts together. The 135 guys are excited about their cars who cares.

Are we going to be seeing these parts soon like in a month or we gong to have to wait a long time for this? I'm guessing pricing won't be THAT bad. All the prices are jacked up for our cars right now anyway. More parts is a good thing - dilutes the market, gets some competition going (excluding Dinan of course, they do whatever the fuck they want).

[O-cha]

Originally Posted by billspreston

The 135 guys are excited about their cars who cares.

I do, I don't want them to have something nicer then me for cheaper.

[billspreston]

Originally Posted by O-cha

I do, I don't want them to have something nicer then me for cheaper.

Haha it takes a man to admit it. Nicer is some ways, yes, in others ways its not. No matter which car you're into, you can't tell me that the 135 looks better than 335

The cars will be neck and neck on the streets, it will be fun I hope some of my friends buy them so I can drive it!

[BlakeB]

Not that much cheaper, just different IMHO. Im happy that I have a 3er and Im happy that 1ers are happy and think its a neat car in its own right. Just my 2 cents

[Kbueno]

Originally Posted by billspreston

Haha it takes a man to admit it. Nicer is some ways, yes, in others ways its not. No matter which car you're into, you can't tell me that the 135 looks better than 335

The cars will be neck and neck on the streets, it will be fun I hope some of my friends buy them so I can drive it!

+1

[OC Guy]

Interesting stuff.

[O-cha]

I'm having a ball over there with the 1 series guys.

[JoeyG]

Ima be needin' that steering wheel...

[M3to335]

The wife is going to pick one up so we have have them both in the garage and settle this once and for all

[Garrett]

Originally Posted by O-cha

I'm having a ball over there with the 1 series guys.

Like I said... your usually on top of your game. I think you've grossly overlooked many of the mechanical application of BMW's new performance series.

The 135i Coupé offers a BMW first by featuring an electronic differential lock to deliver a sporting and ambitious style of driving. The electronic differential lock works when the car is accelerating hard out of corners or tight bends. In this situation, it electronically slows the spinning inside rear wheel to enhance vehicle traction and ensure that all available power is transferred to the road.

Again, this clearly demonstrates BMW's eagerness of using the 1 series to showcase it's egineering prowess. I realized a long time ago that the 3 series has gone too luxury on me... and it seems it has. Longer, heavier.. motorized this and that!

The 135i was designed and built for performance...first and foremost. Thats not marketing, it the facts!


I too would like to find out more about the 135i's electronic differential, but i have seen a diagram of it and it had all three systems on that board, so... no e-diff is not DTC. Though it might just be a mnore robust mode or work in conjunction with it.

[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by Garrett

Like I said... your usually on top of your game. I think you've grossly overlooked many of the mechanical application of BMW's new performance series.




Again, this clearly demonstrates BMW's eagerness of using the 1 series to showcase it's egineering prowess. I realized a long time ago that the 3 series has gone too luxury on me... and it seems it has. Longer, heavier.. motorized this and that!

The 135i was designed and built for performance...first and foremost. Thats not marketing, it the facts!


I too would like to find out more about the 135i's electronic differential, but i have seen a diagram of it and it had all three systems on that board, so... no e-diff is not DTC. Though it might just be a mnore robust mode or work in conjunction with it.

Where is that quote from Garrett?

[cycler]

Nice catalog but does anyone speak German here so they can translate?

[Jason]

Originally Posted by cycler

Nice catalog but does anyone speak German here so they can translate?

It's translated in the OP's original link.