[redlinejunkie]

i am taking the turbos out. My prediction is that that way i will be able to beat that cavalier with the cat back 30 years from now. Hey patience pays. Good things dont come fast!!!

[radgator1]

"With that logic, I'll just run 7psi instead. Because I'm really looking forward to running against the guy down the street in 10 years.

Seriously now, where do you pull these forecasts from? Is it what you think or what you hope?"

-shiv

"That is an big assumption with no supporting data."

-scalbert

Dang, you guys are pretty defensive. He didn't say anything about what the result of the race would be in 3 years. It seems like you have a feeling what the results would be and aren't to happy about that though

Or as WS said, "methinks thou dost protest too much"

[leftcoastman]

I think the implication was that running 15psi would blow your motor and that 13psi would not.

Without supporting evidence, that implication should not be made, imo.

Originally Posted by radgator1

"With that logic, I'll just run 7psi instead. Because I'm really looking forward to running against the guy down the street in 10 years.

Seriously now, where do you pull these forecasts from? Is it what you think or what you hope?"

-shiv

"That is an big assumption with no supporting data."

-scalbert

Dang, you guys are pretty defensive. He didn't say anything about what the result of the race would be in 3 years. It seems like you have a feeling what the results would be and aren't to happy about that though

Or as WS said, "methinks thou dost protest too much"

[scalbert]

Originally Posted by radgator1

Dang, you guys are pretty defensive. He didn't say anything about what the result of the race would be in 3 years. It seems like you have a feeling what the results would be and aren't to happy about that though

Or as WS said, "methinks thou dost protest too much"

It was just a big assertion that either the turbos or engine will not last at this level. At this point there is nothing definitive to support this claim.

On a personal note, I suspect that there will be turbo upgrades by then and would be a perfect reason to have to upgrade.

[Orb]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

With that logic, I'll just run 7psi instead. Because I'm really looking forward to running against the guy down the street in 10 years.

Seriously now, where do you pull these forecasts from? Is it what you think or what you hope?

-shiv

Of course YOU can support this. Oh...I forgot you don't do life testing of any sorts by your last admission….tell us what has changed. BTW, you competitors (AA for one) who do test feel differently.

Orb

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by radgator1

"With that logic, I'll just run 7psi instead. Because I'm really looking forward to running against the guy down the street in 10 years.

Seriously now, where do you pull these forecasts from? Is it what you think or what you hope?"

-shiv

"That is an big assumption with no supporting data."

-scalbert

Dang, you guys are pretty defensive. He didn't say anything about what the result of the race would be in 3 years. It seems like you have a feeling what the results would be and aren't to happy about that though

Or as WS said, "methinks thou dost protest too much"

got it ... 100% ... and I'm sure you didn't miss the smiley in scalbert's reply .

Cheers,
Eugen

[Kbueno]

Originally Posted by Orb

Of course YOU can support this. Oh...I forgot you don't do life testing of any sorts by your last admission….tell us what has changed. BTW, you competitors (AA for one) who do test feel differently.

Orb

Would you explain this one for me. If there is testing that my tune will blow the turbos up in 3 years...I want to know. Also, does AA "feel" that certain tunes will grenade the motor, or do they have actual testing to prove this?

Edit: I feel guilty for adding to this off topic dribble. There's no way the Dinan time offers a truly representative example. Especially with the M/T.

[sleepdoc]

All three cars were on stock runflats. I think the most telling aspect is the trap speeds. 112.89 is a helluva lot faster than 105.whatever. Remember also that Moroso is notoriously slow, I bet our traps would be higher at a different track...

I did not up my user TQ settings - I had them at 94% as usual. My boost via datalogs is always at 14.1 max

Here is the timeslip vs the evo
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[turbotko]

Here we go again. sheez it just never ever stops does it. The truth is........NOBODY KNOWS!!! Not Dinan, Not AA, especially not Orb or Eugene, and not Vishnu. We will all have to wait and see what the long term effects are of the tunes.


Me personally............I don't give a fuck!! I modifiy my car because I want to, and if the sonofabitch blows up then I'll deal with it at that time. If you crybabies are sooooooo worried about blowing shit up..........LEAVE IT STOCK!!!!!!!

[sleepdoc]

Evo left V2 right

[remydlc]

IMO 2PSI will not make a difference in just 3 years. maybe not at all, this are turbo engines, and that's the way they work. Now from 8psi to 13-15psi from 5-8 years sounds more reasonable. i mean, you gotta pay to play, who said that this turbos are gonna last forever?

[M4TW]

I found that with the Step. and the Dinan tune, shift points make a huge difference. With the SSTT, I could just mat it and let the step do the shifting for me at redline and that gave me the best times. The boost fades fast with the Dinan tune at the higher revs so not only do you feel the acceleration let up, you also start the next gear at to high of an rev to take full advantage of the Dinan sweet spot. If you shift too early, however, the revs start out too low in the next gear and your times will be worse than redlining it.

I ran mine with a FX1 on one run letting step do the shifting at redline and ran a 12.95. I then did it again brake boosting to 2500 and shifting at 6500 and ran a 12.35. These are not track times but they illustrate the huge difference shift points make to your 1/4 time with the Dinan tune.

[ybbiz34]

Hey, is there any PROOF that the one car had the Dinan flash?

I think I could drive my SLK280 in reverse and get a higher trap than that.

Just trying to lighten the mood. But seriously, the supposed Dinan-flashed car really does have awful times. Wish that guy could chime in and comment about his driving technique/experience.

Looks like I'm gonna have to head out to the strip to settle this once and for all. Need more Dinan times out there for better future comparisons.

[drphil71]

Proof that it had a Dinan? I think we are over analyzing a little too much. The driver most probably was unexperienced.

[ybbiz34]

Originally Posted by drphil71

Proof that it had a Dinan? I think we are over analyzing a little too much. The driver most probably was unexperienced.

I was just joking around. I agree with what you are saying. Just trying to lighten the mood. Apparently, I failed.

[Mr. 5]

Originally Posted by drphil71

Proof that it had a Dinan? I think we are over analyzing a little too much. The driver most probably was unexperienced.

I don't care how inexperienced the driver was.
Inexperience shows with a poor time, not a low trap speed.

[5soko]

AT always run faster at the 1/4 mile then MT's. no comparison here. both trap and ET, dont know what tracks you guys go to lol

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by ybbiz34

I was just joking around. I agree with what you are saying. Just trying to lighten the mood. Apparently, I failed.

Please tell me that picture is not real.

[lawdude]

If you put all the economists in the world in a straight line and asked them to point the direction the economy is heading, each would point in a different direction. Same thing with tuners and wannabes when it comes to engine durability predictions.

[Kbueno]

Originally Posted by 5soko335i

AT always run faster at the 1/4 mile then MT's. no comparison here. both trap and ET, dont know what tracks you guys go to lol

Ohh please! That is simply not true. Although I do agree that they should not be compared in this particular case.

[funkdoc]

Sorry to say but this dinan time seems to be on par due to the horrible 60ft time. The 6mt might be a bit harder to launch and shift vs the ease of the Step. I had almost the same exact mid 13s at 105 when I pulled a 2.48 60ft. during one run after the 12.9. Infineon and Morose might have comparable times. That V2 is running very strong. Great job!

[boosted305]

sleepdoc:

what other, if any, mods do you have besides V2?

great run by the way!