PROcede v3 to JB3

sflgator · 11-16-2008, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by iheartsole

how much hp does the JB3 give you or procede?

for "dyno" and you find the answers you're looking for.

cn555ic · 11-16-2008, 04:45 PM

JB3 offers probably similar gains to Procede, it all depends on the mods accompanying the tune...V3 offers a whole lot more safety features for the engine as suppose to Jb3...

JOe335i · 11-16-2008, 04:46 PM

[QUOTE=cn555ic;3653351]JB3 offers probably similar gains to Procede, it all depends on the mods accompanying the tune...V3 offers a whole lot more safety features for the engine as suppose to Jb3...[/QUOTE]

Sorry, No it does not.

SfValley335i · 11-16-2008, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JOe335i

Sorry, No it does not.

What safety features does the JB3 offer?

cn555ic · 11-16-2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

JB3 offers probably similar gains to Procede, it all depends on the mods accompanying the tune...V3 offers a whole lot more safety features for the engine as suppose to Jb3...[/QUOTE]

Sorry, No it does not.

You seem to know alot of JB3....Please tell us what safety features it has?
I am really interested to know for the future if I do plan on going with JB platform.. Thanks

JOe335i · 11-16-2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SfValley335i

What safety features does the JB3 offer?

You can email Terry to get the full details.

JOe335i · 11-16-2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JOe335i

You seem to know alot of JB3....Please tell us what safety features it has?
I am really interested to know for the future if I do plan on going with JB platform.. Thanks

So you dont know about any of the safety features of the JB3 but yet the PROcede has more of them? I can direct you to my last post aswell.

cn555ic · 11-16-2008, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JOe335i

You can email Terry to get the full details.

Yeah but , you seem like you know alot based on your assertive answers, so at least give us what you seem to know...I want to hear it from a user and not a tuner because they try to sell...So what features are implemented?? Thanks

Lane · 11-16-2008, 04:51 PM

AFR and boost are kept safe.

SfValley335i · 11-16-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JOe335i

You can email Terry to get the full details.

You said the procede doesnt have a whole lot more safety features than the JB3... So you should pretty much know the in's and outs of both products... why are you pointing me over to Terry? Simple and quick answer would benefit this thread.

cn555ic · 11-16-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

So you dont know about any of the safety features of the JB3 but yet the PROcede has more of them? I can direct you to my last post aswell.

Well I heard of the Procede safety nets, but really never heard any of the safety nets that JB3 has...Not trying to start anything, but really curious thats all...WHy are you being so defensive??

cn555ic · 11-16-2008, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lane

AFR and boost are kept safe.

Are those the only safety features, or are they more?

OpenFlash · 11-16-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lane

AFR and boost are kept safe.

Is the JB3 actually measuring any o2 sensors? I don't believe it is.

JOe335i · 11-16-2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JOe335i

Well I heard of the Procede safety nets, but really never heard any of the safety nets that JB3 has...Not trying to start anything, but really curious thats all...WHy are you being so defensive??

I am not being defensive, i was asking a question towards you.
You posted that the V3 had more safety nets and such compared to the JB3, that is not being curious, you were stating that, which from what you just posted was false since you dont even know what kind of safety the JB3 really has.
I am just trying to stop all the misinformation that is being spread around this forum.

Lane · 11-16-2008, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

Are those the only safety features, or are they more?

Dyno your JB3 and you will find that EGTs are fine too. If you calculate the turbine revs, you will find them to be at the safe levels as well etc etc, but you really should discuss with the manufacturer as otherwise you do not have the big picture.

cn555ic · 11-16-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

I am not being defensive, i was asking a question towards you.
You posted that the V3 had more safety nets and such compared to the JB3, that is not being curious, you were stating that.
I am just trying to stop all the misinformation that is being spread around this forum.

the reason why I am stating that is because I know almost all the features on V3, but really never looked into JB3 before and have really NEVER heard anyone describe the safety nets for the tune, so I thought the obvious that V3 had more safety nets to protect the motor than JB3...I guess from your answer I was wrong...If so please enlighten me...thanks

cn555ic · 11-16-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lane

Dyno your JB3 and you will find that EGTs are fine too. If you calculate the turbine revs, you will find them to be at the safe levels as well etc etc, but you really should discuss with the manufacturer as otherwise you do not have the big picture.

thanks!

Galal01 · 12-09-2010, 10:20 AM

Hello Everyone,

I own the largest auto tuning shop in Egypt. We Supply Egypt with pretty much everything for European cars.. Last year we started receiving 335s from BMW. Now pretty much everyone wants to upgrade their cars to compete with the M3s in town.

I currently own a 335i have been reading about these tune boxes for a while now.. I would like to be the first to offer them in Egypt.. However Im stuck in the same predicament of which tune to sell.. I will be ordering hundreds and I do not want the hassle of selling both...

Which tune box shall I go with.. I need something simple to use and update and that provides a noticeable difference without harming the engine.. (Warranty is not an issue in Egypt)

Draven · 12-09-2010, 11:03 AM

Well, you've dug up a 2 year old thread. A lot has changed.

If you want to buy them TODAY, know that the Proceed V4/V5 (same hardware) is available TODAY. The current generation Proceed autotunes from user programmed "limits" down to safely supported levels.

The current avaible JB unit does not do this. They are currently in development to offer that functionality but as far as I know this has not made it to market yet.

Bottom line, you can't go wrong with either tune. The main difference right now is that the proceed actively monitors sensor data to meet boost targets while monitoring potential issues. The JB3 uses preprogrammed maps to meet similar levels. Both work, just they do it differently.

The next generation JB board will do the same things the proceed does, but like I said, I don't believe the new version is available yet.

I hope this helps.

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cn555ic 460 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	JB3 offers probably similar gains to Procede, it all depends on the mods accompanying the tune...V3 offers a whole lot more safety features for the engine as suppose to Jb3...
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JOe335i Lieutenant 29 Rep 525 Posts Drives: R32-08STI-e92335i Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AUSTRIA iTrader: (0)	[QUOTE=cn555ic;3653351]JB3 offers probably similar gains to Procede, it all depends on the mods accompanying the tune...V3 offers a whole lot more safety features for the engine as suppose to Jb3...[/QUOTE] Sorry, No it does not.
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Lane Several N54 cars, V1,3, V2.0.2, and V3.1 12 Rep 778 Posts Drives: N54s Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: UK DE GR SW iTrader: (0)	AFR and boost are kept safe.
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Galal01 Major General 44 Rep 107 Posts Drives: 2010 BMW M35i Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Egypt iTrader: (0)	Hello Everyone, I own the largest auto tuning shop in Egypt. We Supply Egypt with pretty much everything for European cars.. Last year we started receiving 335s from BMW. Now pretty much everyone wants to upgrade their cars to compete with the M3s in town. I currently own a 335i have been reading about these tune boxes for a while now.. I would like to be the first to offer them in Egypt.. However Im stuck in the same predicament of which tune to sell.. I will be ordering hundreds and I do not want the hassle of selling both... Which tune box shall I go with.. I need something simple to use and update and that provides a noticeable difference without harming the engine.. (Warranty is not an issue in Egypt) __________________ 2010 M35i (Complete M3 with Tuned Twin Turbo inline 6)
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12-09-2010, 11:03 AM	#63
Draven C7Z - Darkside 50 Rep 226 Posts Drives: '18 Z06 M7 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Merrimack, NH iTrader: (0)	Well, you've dug up a 2 year old thread. A lot has changed. If you want to buy them TODAY, know that the Proceed V4/V5 (same hardware) is available TODAY. The current generation Proceed autotunes from user programmed "limits" down to safely supported levels. The current avaible JB unit does not do this. They are currently in development to offer that functionality but as far as I know this has not made it to market yet. Bottom line, you can't go wrong with either tune. The main difference right now is that the proceed actively monitors sensor data to meet boost targets while monitoring potential issues. The JB3 uses preprogrammed maps to meet similar levels. Both work, just they do it differently. The next generation JB board will do the same things the proceed does, but like I said, I don't believe the new version is available yet. I hope this helps.
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