Lotus Emira

heavyD^2 · 07-07-2021, 08:33 AM

This car is a total stunner. Looks better than most exotics. IMO the AMG engine and DCT would be the way to go as that's a solid engine.

JP10 · 07-07-2021, 08:44 AM

Love it

Mintsopoulos · 07-07-2021, 08:48 AM

I am a fan! I absolutely love it. Hydraulic Steering, 3 pedals, and two solid engine options all packaged beautifully...what isnt there to love.

SickGTR · 07-07-2021, 09:47 AM

Kinda like a Mcclaren Ferrari mix. Def a head turner!!

baege · 07-07-2021, 09:51 AM

As someone with a deposit down in the hopes of an allocation on a 4.0 GTS, this intially had me a little confused

then I thought more about it: normally aspirated flat six vs supercharged camry engine (wouldn't even consider the 4), porsche reliability vs lotus unpredictability, one of the best manuals in the biz vs an ok one, porsche resale value vs lotus depreciation

This thing is a looker, so a no brainer for someone looking to flex but don't think it's overall a better buy than a 4.0 GTS...

unluky · 07-07-2021, 10:00 AM

I have never been a huge Lotus fan (lookswise - performance has obviously always been there) but I can this is the first Lotus I have seen that makes me say WOW at the styling. Looks are always subjective, but that is a great looking little car to me.

I'll be watching this one. Thanks for sharing.

Hagasan41 · 07-07-2021, 10:14 AM

Lotus nailed styling for sure!

Leetevo · 07-07-2021, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by unluky

I have never been a huge Lotus fan (lookswise - performance has obviously always been there) but I can this is the first Lotus I have seen that makes me say WOW at the styling. Looks are always subjective, but that is a great looking little car to me.

I'll be watching this one. Thanks for sharing.

x2. I was surprised at how much I actually liked it.

unluky · 07-07-2021, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Leetevo

x2. I was surprised at how much I actually liked it.

Rare for me to like many cars right out of the gate - they usually have to grow on me - but I liked that one immediately. Might not transition to me liking the drive, but it's the first one I have been interested in driving to see if I want to own.

In a few years when then initial owner takes the depreciation hit, these might be on my radar.........

Wheelwright · 07-07-2021, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by baege

As someone with a deposit down in the hopes of an allocation on a 4.0 GTS, this intially had me a little confused

then I thought more about it: normally aspirated flat six vs supercharged camry engine (wouldn't even consider the 4), porsche reliability vs lotus unpredictability, one of the best manuals in the biz vs an ok one, porsche resale value vs lotus depreciation

This thing is a looker, so a no brainer for someone looking to flex but don't think it's overall a better buy than a 4.0 GTS...

I agree this Lotus will likely depreciate faster than the Porsche and will probably be less reliable as well, but your other 2 points are debatable:
1) The supercharged Camry engine should be much cheaper to fix and maintain than the Porsche's flat 6, and I personally like its supercharger's whine.
2) Also even the current Lotus Evora GT (which Emira will replace) has a manual gearbox which is just as crisp-shifting as the best ones that Porsche offers.

So I think the new Lotus will be quite competitive with the Cayman 4.0, assuming it is similarly priced.

tranquility · 07-07-2021, 11:40 AM

I guess this is the V6 one, sounds good, not that I care too much about sound but for those who do.

rmanm4 · 07-07-2021, 11:47 AM

Lotus....please take my money now!

shay2nak · 07-07-2021, 11:56 AM

IDK about depreciation. Exige price is almost what I bought it for 14 years ago. Reliability is great especially with Toyota motor & drivetrain. I have no complaints and I love the car. I will keep this car forever.

tranquility · 07-07-2021, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by rmanm4

Lotus....please take my money now!

Ditto!!!

VisualEcho · 07-07-2021, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by shay2nak

What?! This car is pretty!

There, fixed that for you.

W/// · 07-07-2021, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by baege

As someone with a deposit down in the hopes of an allocation on a 4.0 GTS, this intially had me a little confused

then I thought more about it: normally aspirated flat six vs supercharged camry engine (wouldn't even consider the 4), porsche reliability vs lotus unpredictability, one of the best manuals in the biz vs an ok one, porsche resale value vs lotus depreciation

This thing is a looker, so a no brainer for someone looking to flex but don't think it's overall a better buy than a 4.0 GTS...

Hmm, some parts I agree with, some parts I don't.

The only Lotus I've ever driven is a late model Evora. I went into the test drive thinking the suspension is going to be the only thing worthwhile in that car, but was quite blown away by how soulful that engine is. The supercharger whine and exhaust were VERY in your face, I loved it. Unfortunately, the shifting definitely was not as good as I hoped it would be.

I know it's not potentially 1 to 1, but if somehow in the US it's priced to rival the Cayman S, I think it's a no brainer which way I'd go.

baege · 07-07-2021, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tranquility

I guess this is the V6 one, sounds good, not that I care too much about sound but for those who do.

k well now I am confused again.

..interested in where the pricing lands

I looked at the evora back in the day and while it was $75000 msrp, to actually get it on the road with reasonable options, it was more like 90K before tax...

if the emira comes in at 110K cdn for the v6 manual with reasonable options then it may well be a real debate for me

tranquility · 07-07-2021, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by baege

k well now I am confused again.

..interested in where the pricing lands

I looked at the evora back in the day and while it was $75000 msrp, to actually get it on the road with reasonable options, it was more like 90K before tax...

if the emira comes in at 110K cdn for the v6 manual with reasonable options then it may well be a real debate for me

I didn't do any deep research but according to what I've skimmed online and on lotustalk, this one undercuts Evora pricing? If so, that's great.

Wanted_M · 07-07-2021, 01:08 PM

Lotus hit a home run with the Emira, I'd take the manual with V6.

Bumpinjeep · 07-07-2021, 01:34 PM

So does this come out when the G87 does? Because if it does, there's some market share that Lotus may eat up. 400+hp with a manual transmission, for $70ish thousand? I'll def take one for a test drive.

stein_325i · 07-07-2021, 01:58 PM

Love it, absolutely beautiful, especially in Green on Tan.

Holset · 07-07-2021, 02:24 PM

I really like this car but they should make a version with the AMG V8 too.

07-07-2021, 08:33 AM	#45
heavyD^2 Colonel 3726 Rep 2,989 Posts Drives: X3M Competition Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Too close to Santa iTrader: (0)	This car is a total stunner. Looks better than most exotics. IMO the AMG engine and DCT would be the way to go as that's a solid engine.
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Mintsopoulos Captain 672 Rep 602 Posts Drives: '15 MW F80 6MT Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	I am a fan! I absolutely love it. Hydraulic Steering, 3 pedals, and two solid engine options all packaged beautifully...what isnt there to love. __________________ #TMGPS For The Gram
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07-07-2021, 09:51 AM	#49
baege Lieutenant Colonel 1412 Rep 1,642 Posts Drives: 2023 R8 RWD Coupe Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada iTrader: (0)	As someone with a deposit down in the hopes of an allocation on a 4.0 GTS, this intially had me a little confused then I thought more about it: normally aspirated flat six vs supercharged camry engine (wouldn't even consider the 4), porsche reliability vs lotus unpredictability, one of the best manuals in the biz vs an ok one, porsche resale value vs lotus depreciation This thing is a looker, so a no brainer for someone looking to flex but don't think it's overall a better buy than a 4.0 GTS...
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07-07-2021, 10:00 AM	#50
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07-07-2021, 10:14 AM	#51
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07-07-2021, 11:40 AM	#55
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07-07-2021, 11:47 AM	#56
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07-07-2021, 11:56 AM	#57
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07-07-2021, 01:08 PM	#63
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07-07-2021, 02:24 PM	#66
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