[Terrance28]

That dyno graph of the M3 he posted gained 94whp and 81wtq. With just bolt ons! There is no way in hell that is possible unless its FI or they went into the motor and thats not considered bolt ons anymore.

[iamvietness]

Originally Posted by Sparky66

Let's face it, he won't race any properly modded 335.........He's in a Sticky situation.

lame joke. hahahah jk.

can someone explain to me why an m3 owner is on the m5 boards bragging anyways?

[Lane]

The M3 dyno on that M5board thread is enough for the DCT M3 to kill any 335 from a roll. Even JB3 with full bolt-ons. -> Add meth please. Or porting the turbos.

[Terrance28]

Originally Posted by Lane

The M3 dyno on that M5board thread is enough for the DCT M3 to kill any 335 from a roll. Even JB3 with full bolt-ons. -> Add meth please. Or porting the turbos.

Terry's jb3 with bolt ons made 422whp and 431wtq and considering that the 335i is lighter it will beat that m3. Down4it made 417whp and 419wtq and his 335i will beat it too.

[Lane]

Originally Posted by Terrance28

Terry's jb3 with bolt ons made 422whp and 431wtq and considering that the 335i is lighter it will beat that m3. Down4it made 417whp and 419wtq and his 335i will beat it too.

I don't know if that's correct. How much did you account for the DCT? What did you use as a weight difference? Also, you cannot compare the peak values only.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by Lane

I don't know if that's correct. How much did you account for the DCT? What did you use as a weight difference? Also, you cannot compare the peak values only.

No, no...either something fishy is going on with that guy's M3 or it's complete b.s. Let's not forget that it's still a N/A v8 engine with a supposed ecu flash and a pulley...so what's that yield -- maybe an extra 20WHP???

[itsbrokeagain]

bench racing ftw...

[SfValley335i]

Originally Posted by sflgator

....Let's not forget that it's still a N/A v8 engine with a supposed ecu flash and a pulley...so what's that yield -- maybe an extra 20WHP???

20whp would seem reasonable until you see what a ECU flash does to a C63....

C63 Evo Sport Ecu Flash DYNO


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[Lane]

If the dyno is true, it is fast. I've heard his car is really fast... 20whp is underestimation. Its just a very small percentage of M3 power. It can be achieved easily by higher octane alone. This Sticky is seriously pissed which makes him extremely motivated and anything is possible with motivation and money.

[Lane]

Noelle ecu tune alone for M3 seems to provide +56hp... Requires replacing of front cats though.

[aus]

Originally Posted by SfValley335i

20whp would seem reasonable until you see what a ECU flash does to a C63....

C63 Evo Sport Ecu Flash DYNO


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But that engine was detuned by MB, so I could see considerably gaines since they purposely made less power.

[Crisp]

I dont understand why he is bringing price into it so much and saying 335 owners settled with the 335 because they could not afford the M3.

My E93 335 came out to be more expensive than a 2008 M3 that had 0.9% financing.
It was just a personal choice and preference, it didn't have anything to do with money.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by SfValley335i

20whp would seem reasonable until you see what a ECU flash does to a C63....

C63 Evo Sport Ecu Flash DYNO


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Well, the RENNtech ecu flash for the C63 AMG is +24BHP, so that's ~ +20WHP (451BHP --> 475BHP). I think RENNtech is also considered one of the best performance co's for MB.

http://www.renntechmercedes.com/c.html

So, based on that, I would venture to guess that an M3 tuned with an ecu flash and pully might put down ~ 370-380WHP (stock M3 @ 414BHP = ~ 350WHP and RWTQ <300 lb.-ft.).

[asdflkijd]

haha looks like stickey is a pansy bloating over a win, that 335i might as well have been running a SSTT.... Not a real tune. Hes kind of annoying IMHO.

[Lane]

Originally Posted by sflgator

Well, the RENNtech ecu flash for the C63 AMG is +24BHP, so that's ~ +20WHP (451BHP --> 475BHP). I think RENNtech is also considered one of the best performance co's for MB.

http://www.renntechmercedes.com/c.html

So, based on that, I would venture to guess that an M3 tuned with an ecu flash and pully might put down ~ 370-380WHP (stock M3 @ 414BHP = ~ 350WHP and RWTQ <300 lb.-ft.).

Cai, pulley, exhaust, reflash and race gas is way beyond 400whp with basic bolt-ons. With DCT and LSD all bolt-ons M3 is extremely fast. Are you trying to fool yourself?

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by Lane

Cai, pulley, exhaust, reflash and race gas is way beyond 400whp with basic bolt-ons. With DCT and LSD all bolt-ons M3 is extremely fast. Are you trying to fool yourself?

Yes, I understand that, but that "fool" Stinky, Sicky, Sticky...whatever his name is over there said he just has an ecu flash and a pully on his E92 M3 and posted up a dyno of >439WHP/339 lb.-ft. RWTQ. So, something is fishy. That's all I'm saying. Plus, the M5Board.com races in Sweden have already proven that new M3's can be walked by a properly tuned 335i.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by hotrod182

I'm pretty sure Sticky is signed up for a private drag strip event in a couple of weeks. If you have a fast 335i, and don't mind spending the $258 entry fee, go join the event and beat him!


PM me if you are in SoCal and are serious about attending.

Are you going? If so, you should run along side of him; with all your practice and great times with your JB3 335i, you should be able to beat him, right?

[David 12]

A quote from our friend, stinky:

"If you could not tell already, I could care less how I sound to people I don't know and will never meet. If I were to tone down my replies, I would be acting like someone I'm not. I'm sick of 335 owners coming onto threads on M3post and posting nonsense about their car modded vs. the M3. The 335 is not an M3, never will be, and I could care less about that low end junk. We don't need that here, they can sit on e90post and talk about their cars all they want.

Secondly, what is a properly modded 335? What is a properly modded M3? What is keeping up? All I know, is a modded 335 thought he could keep up with me, and it was an embarassing beat down. Are there faster 335's? Yes, sure are. Are there faster M3's than mine? You bet. Once you get into modded vs. modded the sky is the limit.

In my opinion, a 335 heavily modded on pump gas will not be near an M3 heavily modded on pump gas. That is without forced induction for the M3, with, it isn't a discussion."

Need any additional motivation?

[Lane]

Originally Posted by sflgator

Yes, I understand that, but that "fool" Stinky, Sicky, Sticky...whatever his name is over there said he just has an ecu flash and a pully on his E92 M3 and posted up a dyno of >439WHP/339 lb.-ft. RWTQ. So, something is fishy. That's all I'm saying. Plus, the M5Board.com races in Sweden have already proven that new M3's can be walked by a properly tuned 335i.

I would be surprised if he would show up with just flash and pulley. I checked what is available in the M3 market and 439 dynojet whp is available.
He did not claim the dyno to be his. He will probably add supercharger as well when available.
The swedish M3 was very weak as it was stock.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by Lane

I would be surprised if he would show up with just flash and pulley. I checked what is available in the M3 market and 439 dynojet whp is available.
He did not claim the dyno to be his. He will probably add supercharger as well when available.
The swedish M3 was very weak as it was stock.

Are you Stinky? Seriously though, judging from how out-of-control this kid seems to be, I wouldn't be surprised if he ran that poor, RD Sport XEDE 335i (w/ ~ 320WHP) with his E92 M3 mods (ecu flash + pulley) + on the bottle with NOS...just to be sure! He seems like a real tool.

[Turkishexpress]

Why don't people just post up some track numbers and solve this issue?

Numbers change from dynojet to dynojet (dyno dynamics, mustangs are even stingier) not to mention elevation, humidity, temperature even if they are so called "SAE" numbers.

Right now from what I can see 335s are putting up better track times. Should the E92 M3 post up some better times soon... sure! Hell, I hope so for being a newer platform not to mention a big old V8 and the price tag to go with it.

That guy definitely has some issues though acting like the new M3 is a gift from God, calling it a "driver's car". Its a great car but for the same amount of money I would go get a GTR or a Z06. Now those are real driver's cars

[Sniz]

Originally Posted by Turkishexpress

Why don't people just post up some track numbers and solve this issue?

Numbers change from dynojet to dynojet (dyno dynamics, mustangs are even stingier) not to mention elevation, humidity, temperature even if they are so called "SAE" numbers.

Right now from what I can see 335s are putting up better track times. Should the E92 M3 post up some better times soon... sure! Hell, I hope so for being a newer platform not to mention a big old V8 and the price tag to go with it.

That guy definitely has some issues though acting like the new M3 is a gift from God, calling it a "driver's car". Its a great car but for the same amount of money I would go get a GTR or a Z06. Now those are real driver's cars

correction, the Z06 is a drivers car, the GTR is a driving computer that you sit in.