[F87source]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

They limit GDI to approx. 200 bar due to wear on the injectors.
This is not a real issue on F1 engines as they run 3000km?, not 300.000km which is normal for a street car.
Of course diesel is a lubricant itself (it's an oil) so 10 times that pressure is no big deal for injectors.

The s55 runs 260 bar, but yeah injectors wearing is real especially if you run on low lubricity fuels like e85. But you can compensate with top cylinder lube.

[///M Power-Belgium]

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by F87source

The s55 runs 260 bar, but yeah injectors wearing is real especially if you run on low lubricity fuels like e85. But you can compensate with top cylinder lube.

I use Redex UCL when tanking up.

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by F87source

The s55 runs 260 bar, but yeah injectors wearing is real especially if you run on low lubricity fuels like e85. But you can compensate with top cylinder lube.

Most n54 guys have felt the effect of injector wear in their wallet
Also here in europe where most gasoline is (or was in that era) completely ethanol free. €2400 in parts alone.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

I use Redex UCL when tanking up.

Ive never heard of this brand but it should be better than nothing.

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Most n54 guys have felt the effect of injector wear in their wallet
Also here in europe where most gasoline is (or was in that era) completely ethanol free. €2400 in parts alone.

Yeah the n54 just had terrible injectors, the n55 solved this with the simple solenoid injectors vs. the piezoelectric injectors in the n54. So the n55 really doesn't have injector issues at all on pump gas and even e10.

If you're running higher concentrations of e85 a tank of regular pump gas is needed between tanks of ethanol, unless top cylinder lube is used with every tank of ethanol.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Newer suspension,10 more hp, I'm sure RB (also the slivers) won't be sleeping on this.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by F87source

Ive never heard of this brand but it should be better than nothing.



Yeah the n54 just had terrible injectors, the n55 solved this with the simple solenoid injectors vs. the piezoelectric injectors in the n54. So the n55 really doesn't have injector issues at all on pump gas and even e10.

If you're running higher concentrations of e85 a tank of regular pump gas is needed between tanks of ethanol, unless top cylinder lube is used with every tank of ethanol.

Better than nothing? Biggest seller in Britain and no.1 brand in Costco.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Most n54 guys have felt the effect of injector wear in their wallet
Also here in europe where most gasoline is (or was in that era) completely ethanol free. €2400 in parts alone.

It's worth for some cars using E10 fuel to tank with E5 from time to time. Ethanol is not good.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Toto must be going mad.....

I'm pretty sure Ferrari nailed it completely => https://nl.motorsport.com/f1/news/fe...voren/9919926/

[Chappers 71]

Originally Posted by F87source

Ive never heard of this brand but it should be better than nothing.



Yeah the n54 just had terrible injectors, the n55 solved this with the simple solenoid injectors vs. the piezoelectric injectors in the n54. So the n55 really doesn't have injector issues at all on pump gas and even e10.

If you're running higher concentrations of e85 a tank of regular pump gas is needed between tanks of ethanol, unless top cylinder lube is used with every tank of ethanol.

Not quite so, guys usually only post about issues.
My old (2006) e92 N54, which I've owned for getting on for 11 years now, which has been running 380 bhp for over 8 years is still on its original injectors & has now covered 125,000 miles & has never had injector issues
Maybes because I only use Shell VPower

[F87source]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Better than nothing? Biggest seller in Britain and no.1 brand in Costco.

Yeah I have no experience on that brand so I can't comment.

I can say that brand names and marketing is not everything, for instance there are botique oils that have a huge marketing presence and are super expensive. However those engine oils pale in comparison to cheap walmart oils like castrol edge and pennzoil - in terms of used oil analysis and actual addative packages, sheer strength etc. So brand names aren't everything.

Originally Posted by M5Rick

It's worth for some cars using E10 fuel to tank with E5 from time to time. Ethanol is not good.

IMO I think ethanol is infinitely superior to pump gas and heres why:

1) Superior octane rating, E100 has 100 octane (rated in AKI) which is far higher than any pump gas - it is essentially race fuel allowing for much more agressive timing and boost based tunes.

2) It burns incredibly clean, so there are essentially no carbon deposits on pistons and valves vs. gasoline.

3) The evaporative cooling effect is very nice and helps engines run alot cooler on track.

Other than that the few draw backs are minimal, such as it is more agressive on rubber but fuel lines should be teflon lined anyways. It does require more fuel to be burned to make the same amount of energy - but the anti knock properties more than make up for it. And it lacks lubricity, but top cylinder lube solves this issue and you also get the much cleaner burning fuel.

[TheBingoBalls]

Why do I get the feeling that Ferrari is going to dominate their home race(s)?

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

Why do I get the feeling that Ferrari is going to dominate their home race(s)?

Monza I don't know. The RB has a very high top speed.
But if Ferrari comes with updates that greatly increase power....

For LEC it's nice that the Ferrari probably will be extremely fast in Monaco compared to the competition, with it's slow corners etc.
So he's bound to win for his home audience after last year's disaster.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by F87source

Yeah I have no experience on that brand so I can't comment.

I can say that brand names and marketing is not everything, for instance there are botique oils that have a huge marketing presence and are super expensive. However those engine oils pale in comparison to cheap walmart oils like castrol edge and pennzoil - in terms of used oil analysis and actual addative packages, sheer strength etc. So brand names aren't everything.



IMO I think ethanol is infinitely superior to pump gas and heres why:

1) Superior octane rating, E100 has 100 octane (rated in AKI) which is far higher than any pump gas - it is essentially race fuel allowing for much more agressive timing and boost based tunes.

2) It burns incredibly clean, so there are essentially no carbon deposits on pistons and valves vs. gasoline.

3) The evaporative cooling effect is very nice and helps engines run alot cooler on track.

Other than that the few draw backs are minimal, such as it is more agressive on rubber but fuel lines should be teflon lined anyways. It does require more fuel to be burned to make the same amount of energy - but the anti knock properties more than make up for it. And it lacks lubricity, but top cylinder lube solves this issue and you also get the much cleaner burning fuel.

Our CLK has hiccuped a couple times when starting up from warm since this E10 was introduced so an odd tank of E5 99RON does it good..it didn't happen with the outgoing E5 95 RON..and what is this E10 doing to the catalysers.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Our CLK has hiccuped a couple times when starting up from warm since this E10 was introduced so an odd tank of E5 99RON does it good..it didn't happen with the outgoing E5 95 RON..and what is this E10 doing to the catalysers.

That's shouldn't be the case because modern day cars have ecus that are highly adaptable to ethanol based fuels with tolerance up to 20% without a tune - before stft and LTFTs can no longer adapt. So E10 really shouldn't be causing issues at all unless it was a tank of bad gas.

Plus I'm North America all fuels (except some premium blends) have e10 in it, and there are zero issues with year round use in all climates.


In regards to the catalytic converter there should be zero issues, if anything it would be even easier on the cats because ethanol blended fuel produces less NOX, SOX, POX and aldehyde emissions vs. gasoline because it contains much less gas and all of its associated additives. Other than that emissions would still be CO2 and water just like gasoline.

If anything ethanol fuels would be better for the cats because it burns so much cleaner than gasoline so there will be less carbon soot going through the cats.

Literally ethanol is a much better fuel imo. Sure there's less energy per volume, but you get many more benefits to compensate. I wish we went to e85 + turbos + hybrids (turbo hybrids are awesome! Just like the McLaren p1 and similar) before we went to electric cars.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by F87source

That's shouldn't be the case because modern day cars have ecus that are highly adaptable to ethanol based fuels with tolerance up to 20% without a tune - before stft and LTFTs can no longer adapt. So E10 really shouldn't be causing issues at all unless it was a tank of bad gas.

Plus I'm North America all fuels (except some premium blends) have e10 in it, and there are zero issues with year round use in all climates.


In regards to the catalytic converter there should be zero issues, if anything it would be even easier on the cats because ethanol blended fuel produces less NOX, SOX, POX and aldehyde emissions vs. gasoline because it contains much less gas and all of its associated additives. Other than that emissions would still be CO2 and water just like gasoline.

If anything ethanol fuels would be better for the cats because it burns so much cleaner than gasoline so there will be less carbon soot going through the cats.

Literally ethanol is a much better fuel imo. Sure there's less energy per volume, but you get many more benefits to compensate. I wish we went to e85 + turbos + hybrids (turbo hybrids are awesome! Just like the McLaren p1 and similar) before we went to electric cars.

We have just two petrols here 95 and 99 RON. I've seen gas pumps in North America with sometimes four or more selections of petrol (gas) even more with the RON going to just 93 maximum? seems a bit low, is that b/c of the bigger cats you use in some states.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

We have just two petrols here 95 and 99 RON. I've seen gas pumps in North America with sometimes four or more selections of petrol (gas) even more with the RON going to just 93 maximum? seems a bit low, is that b/c of the bigger cats you use in some states.

Oh it's not because of the CATS, its because we use AKI here in North America. AKI - stands for anti knock index and it is calculated by (RON: research octane number + MON: Motor octane number) / 2. So that's why it is a lower number than in Europe but likely the same in terms of "octane" when comparing top tier gas, but European gas is far superior than North American gas overall in terms of quality.




So AKI is the average of the 2 octane measurements. We generally have: 87, 89, 91, 93, and 94. Although 93 and 94 are only found in select areas.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Monza I don't know. The RB has a very high top speed.
But if Ferrari comes with updates that greatly increase power....

For LEC it's nice that the Ferrari probably will be extremely fast in Monaco compared to the competition, with it's slow corners etc.
So he's bound to win for his home audience after last year's disaster.

And Toto said : We'll come with significant Mercedes upgrades in Imola ..

Binotto said : It's a bad idea to come with upgrades in Imola regarding the sprint-race and the lack of time to test new upgrades.
That's why the Ferrari upgrades are planned between Miami and Spain.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

And Toto said : We'll come with significant Mercedes upgrades in Imola ..

Binotto said : It's a bad idea to come with upgrades in Imola regarding the sprint-race and the lack of time to test new upgrades.
That's why the Ferrari upgrades are planned between Miami and Spain.

Wolff has commented that Ferrari was 14bhp down last year yet is 14 bhp ahead after Bahrain which is hard to believe as such a big progress has never happened in such a short space of time.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Wolff has commented that Ferrari was 14bhp down last year yet is 14 bhp ahead after Bahrain which is hard to believe as such a big progress has never happened in such a short space of time.

Indeed .I saw the article earlier today and Ferrari will come with even more !

It couldn't be a better moment for the 2022 Ferrari PU with the engine freeze ..

[///M Power-Belgium]

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Just waiting if there's some more news about that Japan PU.