[Tondtar]

Become one of these ...Not much pay but lots of fun and you can take as much smoke breaks as you want

[Kev]

Originally Posted by Tondtar

Become one of these ...Not much pay but lots of fun and you can take as much smoke breaks as you want

It's not easy. You need to giddyup for the 350lb with rolls of skin......

[Tondtar]

Originally Posted by Kev

It's not easy. You need to giddyup for the 350lb with rolls of skin......

Not everyone is that lucky, Kev

[Kev]

Originally Posted by Tondtar

Not everyone is that lucky, Kev

With all the donut eaters in this country, you'd never know. LOL~ You just can't be too sure.

[Griz]

Originally Posted by MJC///M3

odds are you wont make that, I did engineering and economics at Villanova as well as being a candidate in the CFA program....and I dont even make that...(Graduated in December), taking level 1 in June. Its tough out there....especially with the economy...I didn't get a raise or bonus this year, but I count my blessings everyday I still have a job.

Good luck, hope everything works out for you!

I joked with buddy of mine that his engineering degree from Vanderbilt was a poor man's math degree.

He didn't like the joke.

To the OP, stay in school. You need to learn the basic tools in college, and eventually learn how to apply those tools for a few years in a $45k/yr job. Afterwards, you can probably begin to look for a new (higher) job position elsewhere.

*College isn't for everyone, but people who succeed usually do so because of a tremendous amount of determination.

[BeMyWife330i]

ice road truckers, air traffic controller

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by Griz

*College isn't for everyone, but people who succeed usually do so because of a tremendous amount of determination.

"I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have."
-Thomas Jefferson

[BMWE90]

Here you go, the world's best job- http://livenews.com.au/Articles/2009...orlds_best_job

[pmeloche]

Originally Posted by BeMyWife330i

ice road truckers, air traffic controller

ATC is not an easy job. Long hours scheduling for departure/arrival of airplanes carrying hundreds of people. One mistake and hundreds of people die. I don't know how much they make but it's not enough.

[achenator]

I would agree with the previous poster about the oil rig. I live in a predominately blue collar area and many people make a good living in the chemical plants and oil rigs.
Another area is the maritime field if you live near a port or waterway. I have a college degree but I had a good opportunity in the maritime field. I made about 30-40k as a deckhand on a tugboat. I worked a couple of years and got my tug captain's license. Made 60k+ easily. I eventually became a ship pilot and that is considered the top of the maritime profession. Most people would be really surprised to find out what a ship captain or pilot makes.

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by achenator

I would agree with the previous poster about the oil rig. I live in a predominately blue collar area and many people make a good living in the chemical plants and oil rigs.
Another area is the maritime field if you live near a port or waterway. I have a college degree but I had a good opportunity in the maritime field. I made about 30-40k as a deckhand on a tugboat. I worked a couple of years and got my tug captain's license. Made 60k+ easily. I eventually became a ship pilot and that is considered the top of the maritime profession. Most people would be really surprised to find out what a ship captain or pilot makes.

Well then why don't you tell us?

[souldriven]

troll

(where's the smilie for that!)

[c0nstant]

Originally Posted by souldriven

troll

(where's the smilie for that!)

[miktrebla09]

you should join an auto union.....


seriously, though...people here in the states have nothing to complain about (those who have jobs, at least). In Korea, anyone working in finance works 12+ hour days on average...

[achenator]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Well then why don't you tell us?

Not necessary. The man was asking about good paying jobs that don't require college. I was providing some insight into that. Just wanted to point out just because some people don't wear a suit, doesn't mean there aren't some good paying jobs out there. Most people in the maritime field work away from home but also enjoy 6 months+ a year off.

[BMWM3DREAM]

The thread was not meant to be a joke. Although it was npy worded well, I was just wondering what to do with myself. There are many people who say the same thing, "You just have to work hard and find your passion." However, while the statement above seems true, one has to also work smartly because it is not always about how hard you work, rather it is about how smart you work.

College sometimes does not have much benefit in terms of career success so I was just wondering what else I could do so I can have a secure future. As of right now, I have been going to college on and off and I have been there for a very long time because of my emotional situation. I just don't know if I'll be back and if I were to go back I wouldn't know what field I should get into where the work does not seem like hell as it does to many people.

[nmulax]

As for college not having a benefit - we're to the point where having a degree is expected. Not saying it's required for everything; you can make a killing in the trades if you know what you're doing. But for most industries, a Bachelors degree is just the first step, and you need a Masters or beyond to set yourself apart from the pack. I'd hate to lose out on a job because I didn't have a Bachelors degree.

With that in mind, you don't need to always work in the area of your degree. So don't freak about picking what you want to do forever - Business for instance is extremely versatile in it's application.
Also, I don't know anyone who's never had a day of hell at work. No matter what your job, and how much you love it, there are ups and downs. The idea is to find a field/job where the ups outnumber the downs.

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by miktrebla09

you should join an auto union.....


seriously, though...people here in the states have nothing to complain about (those who have jobs, at least). In Korea, anyone working in finance works 12+ hour days on average...

From what I hear a lot of people in finance in the US work about that much as well. Where is Z4Girl/HauteZ when you need her?

[e92phreak]

Originally Posted by wj4

Some of the people out there fresh out of college with actual degrees don't even make $65,000...

Some? I think it is most...

[2kaccordocoupe]

Are you kidding me? you need a dose of reality...
I have a Comp Eng degree and was making 60k the week after I graduated.

You have to put in the time and effot to make a return. Lazyness is not rewarded.

[stooken]

Originally Posted by Jred22

Originally Posted by ferrari355fi

donate sperm....


actually, on second thought, don't.

don't, because there will more kids that will ask these kind of questions. everything requires some sort of skill. no one is going to pay you $65k to sit on your ass.

[Griz]

Originally Posted by Bmoney2K4

The thread was not meant to be a joke. Although it was npy worded well, I was just wondering what to do with myself. There are many people who say the same thing, "You just have to work hard and find your passion." However, while the statement above seems true, one has to also work smartly because it is not always about how hard you work, rather it is about how smart you work.

To a certain degree, yes. Efficiency and productivity are both important. But your time management and ability to multi-task don't count for anything if you're not actually putting time in. It's the time you put in that allows you to develop and learn how to manage your time better.

If you want to stick with schoool, my suggestion is to get a business degree. It's broadly appealing (i.e. it's going to be agreeable with more jobs), and generally less demanding to achieve.