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      09-24-2009, 04:32 AM   #45
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They can't void your entire car's warranty...

so your brakes should still be replaced etc... maintenance stuff is different..

it's a federal law no??
Magnusson Moss?. FYI, the maintenance plan isn't a part of the warranty.

OP: Why did they ban you from their stealership?
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Wow that sucks man. If i were you i'd mod to your comfort. Obviously BMW builds these cars pretty damn well so you shouldn't have to worry too much. But look at the bright side, you can do what you want with you car now and you got a sick BMW to do it with. have fun! Oh and BTW BMW has given me shit about my lowered car and the condition on the tires before...
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      09-24-2009, 05:47 AM   #48
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My warranty has been canned.... Im not going to go into that. The question I now have is, since I no longer have to worry about being scared to go to teh dealer (removing mods/tunes etc), should I just tune my ride? Its a purchase not a lease.
I keep hearing that once you are out of warranty you should tune the car. This is the most stupid thing ever. Once tuned, the likelihood of something bad happening increases greatly as opposed to remaining stock. And you would have to pay out of your pocket !

Now that you are out of warranty the best thing you can do is to service your car religiously at regular intervals. Change oil when often, take care of the car. Unless you want to pay for a new set of turbos or even worse.

You can add a little bit of extra "bite" via the BMW Performance Power Kit. Its expensive, but it ensures that your engine operates within parameters and does not increase the likelihood of something going wrong.

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      09-24-2009, 06:05 AM   #49
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As much as I love my tune, I have to disagree with most here and say stay stock.

If something goes wrong you're screwed. the bill for a new engine would be 5K+ if you could get a used one
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      09-24-2009, 08:27 AM   #50
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You should be the first customer to get the ASR upgrade and post an unbiased review. I mean, you already had a tune in your car. Thats how you lost the warranty, so what does it matter if you put it back in. Go big or go home.

Digital James is right though. Be mentally prepared in case something does go wrong with the engine. Even getting an engine for $5k doesnt include labor and fluids.
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      09-24-2009, 09:25 AM   #51
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I laugh when I see people post this type of stuff. And do what exactly? He's one man and BMW is a big corporation, meaning they have a team of hungry lawyers ready to fight any case. If the OP gets an attorney, he's going to be spending a lot of money for a lost cause.
you dont sue, you would be amazed what a good lawyer can do. PLus they cannot void the entire warraty, your brakes suspension...ect should still be covered, I should clarify that, but you seem like the type who likes to take it up the ass by BMW and have their way with you.
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      09-24-2009, 09:29 AM   #52
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i think a vendor is making an aftermarket hpfp, with a lifetime warranty attached. good luck!
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well the person that took out the JB2 for you, I hope you didn't pay for him to remove it, because they would not be right...In fact, if you did pay the person, I think you should at least let the community know who it is, because if indeed he was paid for his services, we should all know that he obviously doesn't know what he is doing to screw up your car like this a void your warranty for you....I mean if the person was competent to installs, he should have never made that mistake to begin with....
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well the person that took out the JB2 for you, I hope you didn't pay for him to remove it, because they would not be right...In fact, if you did pay the person, I think you should at least let the community know who it is, because if indeed he was paid for his services, we should all know that he obviously doesn't know what he is doing to screw up your car like this a void your warranty for you....I mean if the person was competent to installs, he should have never made that mistake to begin with....
No I didnt pay him. He did it as a "favor" to me. Look where his friendly favor got me now....
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What kind of question is this? Tune away.
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      09-24-2009, 11:25 AM   #56
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Same just happen to me, and im in the same boat as you.
The way I look at it is, Can you offered to mod and fix when need BMW's not cheap to fix when things go wrong. If you have like 2 to 3 grand on the side to fix in case of an emergency than do it if not be careful what mods you do.
I have so far procede, and IC. I have dps but thats what got my warranty voided and not sure I am putting back.
Therein lies the problem. IF something goes out, then I do have a credit card that could cover things like that. Call it my failsafe card. But after 50k, everyone runs that risk, unless they sell teh car.

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wow sucks to hear that, that happened...why not go for the JB+? Easy to install/remove and gives a good amount of power plus you wont need to go in to your ecu anymore.
JB+ is a good option imo. But if im already voided, I figure for a lil more I can just bust a jb3. But I am totally worried about long term reliability.

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The pump is $385 (part 13517592881) at Tischer. If you are keeping the car for a while, buy the Bentley Service Manual for $80 and start to take on maintenance yourself. There are detailed step to HPFP replacement in there:

http://www.amazon.com/BMW-E90-E91-Se...3759847&sr=8-1

If you are keeping the car jump in there tand ry to do some work yourself. Get a BT cable so you can clear codes and reset conditioned based service intervals.
Indeed, but I am not much a of DIYer, otherwise i would have installed my own goddamn JB2....-_-....I dont have the space etc to do my own scenes anyway.....

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If your so worried, sell the car.
How the heck can I sell a car with no drivetrain warranty? Besides, I love my car....It just feels like my trophy wife cheated on me dirty...

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Sorry to hear that & thank's for telling us the problem. Thats why all of us should note, to re-watch/review the DIYs as many times as possible and do the damn install you're self, especially like the current piggys on the market, i dont have much knowledge about our cars at all but i do install my tune my self...I figured No one will be much careful other then you're self on you're own car. and if something goes wrong i'd rather blame my self then some1 else.
That was the ultimate problem. I was too scared to do it myself. I could have avoided all of this had I done it myself. (or not at all)

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Why dont you buy the Dinan tune and get their warranty for the remaining 25,000 miles?

I wouldn't call it all gone, only the drivetrain warranty should be.
I dont know if that would work...or would it?

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Just a guess but I'd doubt they'd be able to void your warranty simply because they think you went in to the ecu box. My only reasoning is that there probably have been plenty of tuned cars which needed warranty work and im sure during the install of whatever tune was installed there have been scratches, dings, etc.

The few voided warranties I've read about have been due to wiring issues which are much more evident of tampering
Well there may have been wiring signs in the ecu, but there was definitely a wire in the wrong place, and the dealer found it.

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Magnusson Moss?. FYI, the maintenance plan isn't a part of the warranty.

OP: Why did they ban you from their stealership?
New Century banned me because of the whole hassle/time wasted scenario. Im sure if I would have approved their $500 repair of 1 wire, then I dont think Id be banned. F that! I wasnt gonna pay 500 for a $50 or less job!

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I keep hearing that once you are out of warranty you should tune the car. This is the most stupid thing ever. Once tuned, the likelihood of something bad happening increases greatly as opposed to remaining stock. And you would have to pay out of your pocket !

Now that you are out of warranty the best thing you can do is to service your car religiously at regular intervals. Change oil when often, take care of the car. Unless you want to pay for a new set of turbos or even worse.

You can add a little bit of extra "bite" via the BMW Performance Power Kit. Its expensive, but it ensures that your engine operates within parameters and does not increase the likelihood of something going wrong.
You are right. However, so many people are running tunes nowadays with more miles than 25xxx, and I dont think Ive heard of any catastrophic problems (at least not yet). So I dont know, I would like probably some sort of mild tune. And in case something happens, theres my credit card. ^_^

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As much as I love my tune, I have to disagree with most here and say stay stock.

If something goes wrong you're screwed. the bill for a new engine would be 5K+ if you could get a used one
Again, with a mild tune, I dont think ill be screwed. But then again, who knows....

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i think a vendor is making an aftermarket hpfp, with a lifetime warranty attached. good luck!
Now THAT is something im interested in. I saw that thread, looks very promising!!!
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What kind of question is this? Tune away.
LOL.....It seems like most people think I wont have reliability issues in the future....But I am probably gonna keep this car for a very long time....
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      09-24-2009, 11:37 AM   #57
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why wouldn't you tune??? just be responsible and have the proper supporting mods before you go dyno queen. AKA get some coilovers, slotted rotors, upgrade the pads, change to RBF600 brake fluid, etc. to make sure the car can handle the power you plan to run. And please don't run 15psi on the stock FMIC
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could you sell the car and get another 335i??
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put everything back to stock and trade-in your car for identical car. You get your warranty back and next person to buy your car will get Warranty as well.
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Sorry to hear about your troubles! I remember seeing your video a while back, we all thought it was just a HPFP problem.

Since you only have 25K miles, I'd say grab a JB3 Plug and Play, do it yourself. It's easy! Don't go above map 3 if you want to stay safe.

I think odds are, if you don't run the hell out of your car with reckless abandon, you'll be fine until much higher mileage. You could even get a FMIC and DPs to give your turbos a bit of a break. Maybe consider a 3rd party warranty after you've hit 50K.

Good Luck!
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Jump on a Jb3 and start fully modding from there.

Its bitter sweet you can say. Now you can mod the shit outta your car without worry.
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      09-24-2009, 01:10 PM   #62
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I would tune it and get the upgrade hpfp that cp-e is helping make if yours fails... It comes with a lifetime warranty,and its the main thing that fails on tuned cars. sorry to hear about what happened.
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That was the ultimate problem. I was too scared to do it myself. I could have avoided all of this had I done it myself. (or not at all)

Indeed, but I am not much a of DIYer, otherwise i would have installed my own goddamn JB2....-_-....I dont have the space etc to do my own scenes anyway.....


But I am probably gonna keep this car for a very long time....
I personally would not hold on to the 335 for a long time, unless I was comfortable and able to perform much of the maintenance myself. If a rear tail light goes out, are you going to do it yourself? It takes 2 minutes.

You are going to pay out the wahzoo if you have to take the car to a shop for many of the small things that will go wrong. There are so many sensors, and other electroinics that will go bad over time.

What ever your decision, good luck. But if you won't try to work on it yourself, you are going to be sending some mechanics kid to college.
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HPFP seems to be a item that might fail sooner or later. Not that big of a deal really.

If we are talking engine longetivity, i would say the first thing to go on a tuned 335i would be the turbos. a couple grand right there.
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The warranty was half way gone anyway, and really (with the exception of HPFP) the warranty is just there of peace of mind. How often do you really use it/need it on a modern car. The manufacturer knows how long their warranty is going to last when they build the car, and they build the car to have no costly problems for at least the length of the warranty.

Get it out of your mind, enjoy your car.
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damn that sucks! my service is due!!! and i have hella codes LOL. my AA BOV cuppler fell off and i got that half engine reduce too and after i plug it in it goes away haha i need that thing cleared and then bring it in. im 1 month over
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