GIAC Stage 2+...12.1 at 115.5 on 100 Octane

Former_Boosted_IS · 11-23-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mixxer

Trap is probably down because ,the car most likely pulled timing on the big end,Which is why the meth cars are getting better traps nice and cool at the bigend and no timing being pulled.

100 octane versus 91 plus methanol is not a big difference. I just think we are seeing the reality of a dynojet that was clearly calibrated to read very, very high. The bottom line is that if the pump map was putting down 400 rwhp, then the trap should still be faster and that takes methanol or race gas out of the equation. These numbers seem more like what would be expected from a 370 rwhp car.

I hope you don't get me wrong. I am not putting down any tune whatsoever, just getting a handle on what reality looks like.

enrita · 11-24-2009, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

100 octane versus 91 plus methanol is not a big difference. I just think we are seeing the reality of a dynojet that was clearly calibrated to read very, very high. The bottom line is that if the pump map was putting down 400 rwhp, then the trap should still be faster and that takes methanol or race gas out of the equation. These numbers seem more like what would be expected from a 370 rwhp car.

I hope you don't get me wrong. I am not putting down any tune whatsoever, just getting a handle on what reality looks like.

How much did you put down with and without meth on a dynojet and mustang dyno?
What are your average traps and times with and without meth?

Proper Motion LLC · 11-24-2009, 02:43 AM

There was a C63 there trapping 117.

His mods: (taken from his signature at mbworld)

2009 EVO3 C63 | evosport development car
Full evo3 package including: Stage 2 intake, SS headers & exhaust, pulley, ecu tune, 2 pc. ~600bhp,

That's $11,000 in mods, and might be considered to be the worlds most powerful C63 right now, yet it could only trap 117mph. Yes, I know it weighs 300lbs more than a 335i, but that C63 probably puts down around 480RWHP.

Mr. 5 · 11-27-2009, 11:39 PM

Hey Guys,
I finally got my video posted.
I'll update the initial post as well.
Here you go:

DLSJ5 · 11-28-2009, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

Hey Guys,
I finally got my video posted.
I'll update the initial post as well.
Here you go:

Excellent job Craig!

Gen_E92 · 11-28-2009, 12:52 AM

more info/pics of MS instake?!

DLSJ5 · 11-28-2009, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 09AlpineTTSedan

There was a C63 there trapping 117.

His mods: (taken from his signature at mbworld)

2009 EVO3 C63 | evosport development car
Full evo3 package including: Stage 2 intake, SS headers & exhaust, pulley, ecu tune, 2 pc. ~600bhp,

That's $11,000 in mods, and might be considered to be the worlds most powerful C63 right now, yet it could only trap 117mph. Yes, I know it weighs 300lbs more than a 335i, but that C63 probably puts down around 480RWHP.

This is true, there were three C63's there, two heavily modded, cars with those mods have trapped 120+ at other tracks.

hotrod182 · 11-28-2009, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 09AlpineTTSedan

There was a C63 there trapping 117.

His mods: (taken from his signature at mbworld)

2009 EVO3 C63 | evosport development car
Full evo3 package including: Stage 2 intake, SS headers & exhaust, pulley, ecu tune, 2 pc. ~600bhp,

That's $11,000 in mods, and might be considered to be the worlds most powerful C63 right now, yet it could only trap 117mph. Yes, I know it weighs 300lbs more than a 335i, but that C63 probably puts down around 480RWHP.

It was absolutely awesome to see the N54s trapping as high as these big HP AMGs. Especially hearing those Nascar sounding engines of theirs next to my quiet, fully catted, stock exhaust BMW. I trapped close to 119mph (118.84) and had quite a few runs over 118mph. I don't think the C63s quite hit that speed. So yes, at a different track, different day, I would probably be over 120mph trap speeds too.

Mr. 5 · 11-29-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DLSJ5

Excellent job Craig!

Thanks man. I can't wait for Sac!

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Originally Posted by hotrod182

It was absolutely awesome to see the N54s trapping as high as these big HP AMGs. Especially hearing those Nascar sounding engines of theirs next to my quiet, fully catted, stock exhaust BMW. I trapped close to 119mph (118.84) and had quite a few runs over 118mph. I don't think the C63s quite hit that speed. So yes, at a different track, different day, I would probably be over 120mph trap speeds too.

I agree. The mods for our cars are so inexpensive compared to the Mercs!

addicted2drums · 12-01-2009, 11:18 PM

wow good work.

Dan335i · 12-01-2009, 11:51 PM

Nice run,congrats. Do you have the CDV mod?

Skeet703 · 12-02-2009, 12:31 AM

niice..knockin on 11's

Mr. 5 · 12-02-2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan335i

Nice run,congrats. Do you have the CDV mod?

I do. I never add that I have no CDV because to me, it's a given.
There is no way IMO, that any person that knows how to drive a manual cannot get frustrated with that stupid CDV.
It's the first thing that needs to be done and I believe I did it with 20 miles on the car.

edo · 12-02-2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

I do. I never add that I have no CDV because to me, it's a given.
There is no way IMO, that any person that knows how to drive a manual cannot get frustrated with that stupid CDV.
It's the first thing that needs to be done and I believe I did it with 20 miles on the car.

What does that CDV mod do?

jpsimon · 12-02-2009, 10:21 AM

cdv = clutch delay valve... when you modify it you reduce/eliminate the delay it caused which thus makes it not suck horribly.

Potty_Pants · 12-02-2009, 10:50 AM

what the heck is that music in the background... sounds like the egg cam scene from american pie I...

I actually got out my my seat and started doin a dance while you were running down the track

ppp

Craig@SupremePower · 12-02-2009, 10:57 AM

nice numbers..

shifterboy45 · 12-02-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Potty_Pants

what the heck is that music in the background... sounds like the egg cam scene from american pie I...

I actually got out my my seat and started doin a dance while you were running down the track

ppp

Blind32 · 12-02-2009, 12:13 PM

I thought CDV stood for Can't Drive Valve

Mr. 5 · 12-02-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Potty_Pants

what the heck is that music in the background... sounds like the egg cam scene from american pie I...

I actually got out my my seat and started doin a dance while you were running down the track

ppp

haha. I usually turn the radio off before I go out but that time I thought I would get some outside influences.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind32

I thought CDV stood for Can't Drive Valve

It pretty much is.

SnowTech.4 · 12-02-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig@SupremePower

nice numbers..

No kidding!

Clap135 · 12-02-2009, 05:04 PM

Now that I think about it more, the trap does seem really low for a fully bolted car on race gas.

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