Procede v4 CANbus love (pre-Beta maps/firmware available for private release)

OpenFlash · 03-26-2010, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

taking out the 02 modifiers would it still show OBD readiness as for emission testing?? Thats one important thing i need to know before i take out the wires...I have to get inspection soon..

Then go ahead and leave the wires in. More info will be provided in the email.

lamia2super · 03-26-2010, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

over 100 email requests in the last 12hrs. Crazy.

thats nuts

pentaxis · 03-26-2010, 01:10 PM

One question regarding auto-mapping. Will performance remain consistent? Also, since stage maps are gone, is there a possibility of being able to control user torque % with the p3 vent gauge?

forza1976 · 03-26-2010, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

over 100 email requests in the last 12hrs. Crazy.

Awesome, this update is looking to be very popular. Anxious to try it out this afternoon Shiv. Hopefully the weather stays good till I get your email. Crossing fingers.

scottp999 · 03-26-2010, 01:26 PM

So with the new 02 sim, you won't get CEL's, but you wont be able to pass the odbII port emissions test because the readiness code is not set? Kind of seems like an incomplete solution if that is true?

scalbert · 03-26-2010, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by scottp999

So with the new 02 sim, you won't get CEL's, but you wont be able to pass the odbIIp port emissions test because the rediness code is not set?

Correct.

OpenFlash · 03-26-2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by scottp999

So with the new 02 sim, you won't get CEL's, but you wont be able to pass the odbII port emissions test because the rediness code is not set? Kind of seems like an incpomlete solution if that is true?

Running CANclear Catalyst will not keep your car from achieving readiness, in itself, since it only automatically clears codes once they are pending. If you don't get any pending catalyst codes (ie, you are running cats or an o2 modifier/downpipe fix), you will STILL achieve readiness with the CANclear function ON.

Shiv

FBOOST · 03-26-2010, 02:15 PM

Outstanding!

scottp999 · 03-26-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Only if you enable CANclear catalyst through the user adjustable settings. It is only intended for off road/racing use. Our goal with this update is to stabilize performance, not to cheat local emissions laws. Cat readiness can be achieved by either running cats or by by re-activating the o2 modifier. But then you will introduce the potential problem that we are trying to eliminate in the first place.

Shiv

Wow. That's a big deal. Most have been expecting two things from an o2 sim:

1) No CEL's
2) Pass ODBII port emissions testing

Even if it wasn't your goal to provide #2

, it has worked in the past and now it is going bye-bye.

I have AR High flow cats, but the magnaflow version. They will pass an ODBII emissions test now with old bmw software. This means if I ever get a software update, I will have to go out and buy new HFC cats that will pass emissions with the new BMW software, or go back to stock cats at the time of emissions.

I don't know anyone switching DP's when they go to the track and then back when they leave the track.

I do understand you cant officially support #2

but it was nice that it worked before. Many people across the USA will be either doing alot of labor, or paying for alot of labor to do the downpipe swaps based on the emissions testing frequency.

alextremo · 03-26-2010, 02:42 PM

Would be nice to leave both functional and create user adjustable parameter to choose which you wanted to employ.

scottp999 · 03-26-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Running CANclear Catalyst will not keep your car from achieving readiness, in itself, since it only automatically clears codes once they are pending. If you don't get any pending catalyst codes (ie, you are running cats or an o2 modifier/downpipe fix), you will STILL achieve readiness with the CANclear function ON.
Shiv

Ok, I see you edited your response. It still seems unclear/muddy.

If someone is running catless, then the act of no cats will keep you from acheiving readiness, and not the CANClear - result is failed ODBII - emissions test.

The answer to pass emissions is:

1) to run cats, or
2) an o2 modifier/downpipe fix

You don't provide #2 as part of your offerings, right? People will need to look elsewhere for that solution if they want it?

OpenFlash · 03-26-2010, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by scottp999

Ok, I see you edited your response. It still seems unclear/muddy.

If someone is running catless, then the act of no cats will keep you from acheiving readiness, and not the CANClear - result is failed ODBII - emissions test.

The answer to pass emissions is:

1) to run cats, or
2) an o2 modifier/downpipe fix

You don't provide #2 as part of your offerings, right? People will need to look elsewhere for that solution if they want it?

Incorrect. #2 is provided as well.

Shiv

Renus · 03-26-2010, 03:09 PM

Hi Shiv,

any maps for 7-DKG ???

AltecBX · 03-26-2010, 03:29 PM

Are the new maps ready to rumble? I'm about to step out the crib.

zsapphire7 · 03-26-2010, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim

How low did you go on the O2 sensor value? You likely have to go as low as 25, 20, and might even be 15.

I did have to go that low for it to work properly but I removed the o2 sim function as shiv told me to in anticipation for this update

OpenFlash · 03-26-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Renus

Hi Shiv,

any maps for 7-DKG ???

Not until we get our 2010 DKG'd 135

Should only be a matter of 1-2 weeks now. Hopefully.

edo · 03-26-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Not until we get our 2010 DKG'd 135

Should only be a matter of 1-2 weeks now. Hopefully.

Damn... This car will be a rocket

I hope you won't sell your current 335i MT.

Chefcg1 · 03-26-2010, 04:49 PM

so from what I'm gathering on the O2 front is that the % correction is still there for us catless DP guys and you have just added the CANclear?

scottp999 · 03-26-2010, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Incorrect. #2 is provided as well.

Shiv

Awesome. Thanks for clarifying for the mentally challenged (me).

OpenFlash · 03-26-2010, 05:26 PM

Emails sent! Please read it carefully

Shiv

scalbert · 03-26-2010, 05:27 PM

Email being read carefully.

Gen_E92 · 03-26-2010, 05:39 PM

Shiv, I recall previously that stage 3 and higher maps have less top end boost taper, how will the progressive mapping taking this into account? Doesn't really make sense to me, unless this is just temporary until auto-tuning take care of things

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