I find it interesting ...

OpenFlash · 08-19-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by oc_bimmer

My feelings are not hurt. I just find it funny, but unfortunately there are a few n00bs who fall for that

noobs? you mean people like themyst, xander, yandyr, ridin135, pcmike, mwahlert, Ilma, GeorgeSmooth, clap135, brian135, jpslick, BrianNM, etc,? Not exactly noobs. In fact, they are among the most educated and technically savvy on this forum. Peace.

forza1976 · 08-19-2010, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

noobs? you mean people like themyst, xander, yandyr, ridin135, pcmike, mwahlert, Ilma, GeorgeSmooth, clap135, brian135, jpslick, BrianNM, etc,? Not exactly noobs. In fact, they are among the most educated and technically savvy on this forum. Peace.

hey, what about me Shiv

ar design · 08-19-2010, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by forza1976

hey, what about me Shiv

The guy with no methanol or downpipes or exhaust or LSD or nitrous????

oc_bimmer · 08-19-2010, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by forza1976

hey, what about me Shiv

"I've been licking your balls since '07 and you did not even mention my name???"

Dackz · 08-19-2010, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ar design

The guy with no methanol or downpipes or exhaust or LSD or nitrous????

Calvin@Vishnu · 08-19-2010, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by forza1976

hey, what about me Shiv

lol... you (and other unmentioned tech-heads) fall into the "etc" umbrella

ar design · 08-19-2010, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by oc_bimmer

"I've been licking your balls since '07 and you did not even mention my name???"

C'mon, that was uncalled for. Forza is a good guy. He is local to us, and by no means a fan boi..... And that is coming from a BMS/cp-e dealer.

oc_bimmer · 08-19-2010, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ar design

C'mon, that was uncalled for. Forza is a good guy. He is local to us, and by no means a fan boi..... And that is coming from a BMS/cp-e dealer.

I was just kidding.
One day I will try procede myself. I'm curious.

kenneth · 08-19-2010, 07:29 PM

Don't do it, you might become a Vishnu fan boi

People should relax a little......Car stuff is supposed to be fun

, not grief causing

ar design · 08-19-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kenneth

Don't do it, you might become a Vishnu fan boi

People should relax a little......Car stuff is supposed to be fun

, not grief causing

ridin135 · 08-19-2010, 07:33 PM

Wow thread derail. I love how some people decide not to buy a product because they do not like the "owner's" attitude/view point. You do realize if you follow this logic with everything you buy, you would most likely not buy any product as the ceo's of major corporations are usually complete dicks. Now I am not saying anything bad about Terry or Shiv here as they are both great guys in my eyes, just pointing out an observation. Now I have always suggested people try out both tunes and see which one suits your needs best and I believe everyone should do this. If you say you can't afford to let go of 700 for a month then you shouldn't have a tune in the first place as you would not be able to fix the car if something went wrong. Also back on topic yes I have noticed the increase time you need to spend with the jb3 and less time with the procede. But the jb3 is still a plug in and walk away tune if you are not looking for max performance.

D.B.S · 08-19-2010, 07:46 PM

Competition (in any business) strives the business to do better, but it seems that some customers (not all) take a blind approach to whichever tune they choose. Once they have taken Tune X or Tune Y, or Tune Z, they become blind to any thing else, and attempt to make those who didn't choose their way, feel like crap or lower than dirt, take your pick.

I've seen it from both sides, and I like many others have said that you have to make a choice that suits you, be damned what any of the 'blind' users say... IF spending a $1000 on a tune doesn't suit you, that's fine, you have to do what financial sound for you, not everyone else's pocket. If the 400-600 tune does it for you, that's the right choice for you, and no one else.

I may not have the most knowledge when it comes to the internal workings of the tunes, but what does it matter how it does it, as long as it does what's advertised, that's all that matters in the end. YOU (the consumer) has to decide what type of risk your willing to assume in purchasing something like this, and if they (the tuners) provide great customer support, it doesn't matter what anyone on this or any forum thinks...

Sorry if it seems like I'm venting, but some people on here, and the other forums need to grow up and stop bickering like children.

Darkcyd_Turbo · 08-19-2010, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Army335xi

Competition (in any business) strives the business to do better, but it seems that some customers (not all) take a blind approach to whichever tune they choose. Once they have taken Tune X or Tune Y, or Tune Z, they become blind to any thing else, and attempt to make those who didn't choose their way, feel like crap or lower than dirt, take your pick.

I've seen it from both sides, and I like many others have said that you have to make a choice that suits you, be damned what any of the 'blind' users say... IF spending a $1000 on a tune doesn't suit you, that's fine, you have to do what financial sound for you, not everyone else's pocket. If the 400-600 tune does it for you, that's the right choice for you, and no one else.

I may not have the most knowledge when it comes to the internal workings of the tunes, but what does it matter how it does it, as long as it does what's advertised, that's all that matters in the end. YOU (the consumer) has to decide what type of risk your willing to assume in purchasing something like this, and if they (the tuners) provide great customer support, it doesn't matter what anyone on this or any forum thinks...

Sorry if it seems like I'm venting, but some people on here, and the other forums need to grow up and stop bickering like children.

this man speaks da troof

Sal Collaziano · 08-19-2010, 07:54 PM

If the Proceed video was better, I'd have already tried one. I watched both videos before I made my purchase and decided on the JB3 because it looked easier. Now that I go back and look at the Proceed video every so often, I still feel like it's missing something toward the end. Right before you hook up the power wire/ground or whatever - there's something else unique that you must do (not on the JB3) and there's like no view of what the installer is doing. I'll wait until the next video to buy mine...

michael1284 · 08-19-2010, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkcyd_Turbo

I know someone already mentioned it but the "other forum" IS OWNED/OPERATED BY BMS...JUST LIKE VISHNU HAS THEIR OWN FORUM FOR SUPPORT AND SUCH. I guess vishnu's forum is a fanboy one too, correct? Man, that just makes too much sense doesn't it.

Wow, really guys, I'm not arguing for either tuner...competition benefits us ALL as a consumer. But there are just ignorant comments popping up everywhere. ::HINT::HINT:: look at quoted post in grey.

I usually try to stay out of threads like this but damn...this is benefitting no one. lol

I'm out, you guys can argue amongst yourselves now...

Sorry - I don't visit the other site enough nor have I been on these forums long enough to know that BMS owns the other forums. After hearing a few people mention that that's where the jb3 people are, I went and started lurking around. There's nothing on the website that tells me that it's a BMS site, in fact the top says "N54/N55 Turbo Performance Enthusiast Forum". Before you attack me for being ignorant, half the posts on that site are not informational and they just talk shit about getting banned over here for "trying to piss shiv off" and how it's e90crap.com. Before I even had a procede I went over there and tried to look up useful information on jb3's I had to sort through all the BS. If they want to attack either product fine, but attacking the owner/whatever Shiv is on every thread is just plain immature.

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Originally Posted by oc_bimmer

then why are you visiting that forum?
btw it's way worse here on this board, procede nuthuggers are constantly bashing the jb3 for no reason just to justify their decision why they paid almost twice as much for their tune.

Like everyone has said here, competition is good. I like to see what's on the other side of the fence, since I'm all for the best tune, not which company it is. When I talk fanboy, I'm talking about people that are just "LOL PROCEDE SUCKS!!" or some random joke about something Shiv has said. Every forum is going to have their fanboy's, but most of the comparison threads I found on here were pretty consistent, and they tried out BOTH tunes

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forza1976 · 08-19-2010, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ar design

The guy with no methanol or downpipes or exhaust or LSD or nitrous????

After last night at the track I may be in the pmarket for the downpipes buddy!

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Originally Posted by oc_bimmer

"I've been licking your balls since '07 and you did not even mention my name???"

WOW! I actually have no issues with the JB tune (or any other for that matter), just comments like this. You really should lighten up man.

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Originally Posted by Calvin@Vishnu

lol... you (and other unmentioned tech-heads) fall into the "etc" umbrella

word!

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Originally Posted by ar design

C'mon, that was uncalled for. Forza is a good guy. He is local to us, and by no means a fan boi..... And that is coming from a BMS/cp-e dealer.

Thanks Drew, not sure why that guy said that. He must be mad today, he's on a roll.

scalbert · 08-19-2010, 08:38 PM

What is a PROcede?

And my kids really love Juice Boxes!

scalbert · 08-19-2010, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ar design

The guy with no methanol or downpipes or exhaust or LSD or nitrous????

Dang, you nailed me too.

You may need to change a portion of that soon.

cn555ic · 08-19-2010, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by oc_bimmer

"I've been licking your balls since '07 and you did not even mention my name???"

You must have pubs between your teeth!

StartupJunkie · 08-19-2010, 08:53 PM

ridin135 - since you're the only who has commented on the original topic.

I agree with what you said about JB3 ... I'm interested in what you think about Procede now.

Junk

jblackwell · 08-19-2010, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by forza1976

noobs... kettle, this is the pot... you're black!!!

YOU sir are a racist!

kenneth · 08-19-2010, 09:08 PM

Actually it's the pot that's racist, but wait the pot's black too, so doesn't count.

Nevermind!

08-19-2010, 07:29 PM	#53
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08-19-2010, 07:33 PM	#55
ridin135 Colonel 141 Rep 2,407 Posts Drives: Depends on the day Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Greenville iTrader: (7)	Wow thread derail. I love how some people decide not to buy a product because they do not like the "owner's" attitude/view point. You do realize if you follow this logic with everything you buy, you would most likely not buy any product as the ceo's of major corporations are usually complete dicks. Now I am not saying anything bad about Terry or Shiv here as they are both great guys in my eyes, just pointing out an observation. Now I have always suggested people try out both tunes and see which one suits your needs best and I believe everyone should do this. If you say you can't afford to let go of 700 for a month then you shouldn't have a tune in the first place as you would not be able to fix the car if something went wrong. Also back on topic yes I have noticed the increase time you need to spend with the jb3 and less time with the procede. But the jb3 is still a plug in and walk away tune if you are not looking for max performance.
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08-19-2010, 07:46 PM	#56
D.B.S Lieutenant Colonel 30 Rep 1,748 Posts Drives: '11 X5 35i / '13 S5 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Deployed to Kuwait iTrader: (2)	Competition (in any business) strives the business to do better, but it seems that some customers (not all) take a blind approach to whichever tune they choose. Once they have taken Tune X or Tune Y, or Tune Z, they become blind to any thing else, and attempt to make those who didn't choose their way, feel like crap or lower than dirt, take your pick. I've seen it from both sides, and I like many others have said that you have to make a choice that suits you, be damned what any of the 'blind' users say... IF spending a $1000 on a tune doesn't suit you, that's fine, you have to do what financial sound for you, not everyone else's pocket. If the 400-600 tune does it for you, that's the right choice for you, and no one else. I may not have the most knowledge when it comes to the internal workings of the tunes, but what does it matter how it does it, as long as it does what's advertised, that's all that matters in the end. YOU (the consumer) has to decide what type of risk your willing to assume in purchasing something like this, and if they (the tuners) provide great customer support, it doesn't matter what anyone on this or any forum thinks... Sorry if it seems like I'm venting, but some people on here, and the other forums need to grow up and stop bickering like children. __________________ BMW X5 35i: Boopie Exhaust & Intercooler, K&N Drop in Filter, JB3 (3+ psi) 2013 Dodge Challenger R/T: CAI, Catch Can, Custom Exhaust, Headers, 87MM Throttle Body, Diablo Custom 93 OCT Tune
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Sal Collaziano Lieutenant 61 Rep 424 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW X5 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Royal Palm Beach, Florida iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	If the Proceed video was better, I'd have already tried one. I watched both videos before I made my purchase and decided on the JB3 because it looked easier. Now that I go back and look at the Proceed video every so often, I still feel like it's missing something toward the end. Right before you hook up the power wire/ground or whatever - there's something else unique that you must do (not on the JB3) and there's like no view of what the installer is doing. I'll wait until the next video to buy mine... __________________ Sal Collaziano Stinger Forum
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08-19-2010, 08:38 PM	#61
scalbert Major General 159 Rep 5,776 Posts Drives: '13 S4, '15 Q7 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Woodstock, GA iTrader: (8)	What is a PROcede? And my kids really love Juice Boxes!
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08-19-2010, 08:53 PM	#64
StartupJunkie First Lieutenant 31 Rep 314 Posts Drives: 07 BMW 335i Sedan+2 Baby Seats Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SF South Bay Area, CA iTrader: (0)	ridin135 - since you're the only who has commented on the original topic. I agree with what you said about JB3 ... I'm interested in what you think about Procede now. Junk __________________ 11.535@124.423mph (1.641 60') - AutoTune 7-27, Race+Meth, Best ET w/ only 80% throttle 1st and 2nd 11.647@121.356mph (1.590 60') - AutoTune (beta pre-5-15), Race Gas, No METH Perf Mods: Vishnu PROcede Rev3 v5, Vishnu PWM Meth Kit, AR Design DPs, AE Exhaust, Helix FMIC, Vishnu DCI, Forge DV, WaveTrac LSD (Best Trap - 124.665mph)
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