Lobonte Failsafe quesiton for SHIV

cn555ic · 10-30-2010, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JPSlick

well considering my labonte unit failed the first day i put it in, I have a right to be a little not surprised. The unit is not up to par. Or my standards I should say.

Your words of wisdom can be said the same for all the Jb3 users that still have cars with no problems

I'd like to just drop the subject and get back on topic, if we could to keep things on a friendly level.

While I understand your dislike for what happened to you, why didnt you return the unit and get another one? Dan seems to be rather easy going and I am sure he would have sent you another one being that it was defective...

As for my words of wisdom, it has no correlation to JB3...I am specifically speaking of the lebonte unit...nice try...

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 10-30-2010, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

While I understand your dislike for what happened to you, why didnt you return the unit and get another one? Dan seems to be rather easy going and I am sure he would have sent you another one being that it was defective...

As for my words of wisdom, it has no correlation to JB3...I am specifically speaking of the lebonte unit...nice try...

cn555ic · 10-30-2010, 04:23 PM

Either way i hope the both of you can get it working. You guys seem to know your shit so I am sure it will be working in no time! Let's hope the next modules are
100% functional

Clap135 · 10-30-2010, 05:18 PM

Went for a ride, barely hitting 7 according to the procede. I got a feeling im going to be getting that 5.0 sooner than I though. This car is nothing but problems.

pentaxis · 10-30-2010, 05:29 PM

Have you attempted a reload of the procede firmware and map perhaps? I know its a long shot, but might be worth it.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 10-30-2010, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pentaxis

Have you attempted a reload of the procede firmware and map perhaps? I know its a long shot, but might be worth it.

I did mention that to him on the side... not sure if it was done or not.

Uploading the firmware with the maps again with the laptop plugged into the wall outlet is sometimes really helpful.

themyst · 10-30-2010, 05:49 PM

put the pump up to 250 psi, getting anywhere between 15-17 now through a check valve. Now let's see if it stays that way.

Clap135 · 10-30-2010, 06:50 PM

I update the the firmware maps to the newest beta, I can't leave this the hell alone so I am replacing the entire meth line, if its still shit, ill switch the firmware, if that fixes it I am mailing shiv a bomb

cn555ic · 10-30-2010, 06:55 PM

So your his fourth beta tester!!

themyst · 10-30-2010, 07:03 PM

clap, if all else fails, i'll let you try my ifs-30 so you can rule the box out as the problem.

cn555ic · 10-30-2010, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by themyst

clap, if all else fails, i'll let you try my ifs-30 so you can rule the box out as the problem.

That would be the next best thing before clap starts flipping the bird. I can understand the frustration he is going through. I would also offer it for him to test but my safeinjection location is not easily accessible as it's underneath the car

Clap135 · 10-30-2010, 07:56 PM

Well replaced the entire meth line, still shit flow, however the 0-1 thing seems to have gone away. How that is possible is beyond me. Next, firmware chage

EDM92 · 10-30-2010, 08:01 PM

This is insanity. Subscribed to see what the problem ends up being.

themyst · 10-30-2010, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Clap135

Well replaced the entire meth line, still shit flow, however the 0-1 thing seems to have gone away. How that is possible is beyond me. Next, firmware chage

pinhole leak in the line maybe? Check the amount of flow from the tank to the pump that was where I had my problem.

Clap135 · 10-30-2010, 10:06 PM

Well, same crap. I rulled out the procede 100 percent by following Shivs directions.
I took pin 10 (map sensor) stripped the insulation, and connected the procede meth input to it. debug byte 7 read 39 which is roughly 2 volts which is EXACTLY where it should be. My replacement labonte flow sense is shot, or wasnt fixed right. Saturday wasted.

Clap135 · 11-01-2010, 05:04 PM

Figured it out.

Picture a floating wheel with fins, that wheel spins based on flow. My wheel doesnt spin, but flow still goes around the wheel. I never bothered checking the unit for clogs due to the fact that I was getting my desired flow based on flow cup readings. Lobonte will replace the unit with no problem. Problem solved. Its always STUPID shit that goes wrong. Hopefully this thread will help someone in the future. Case closed.

OpenFlash · 11-01-2010, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Clap135

Figured it out.

Picture a floating wheel with fins, that wheel spins based on flow. My wheel doesnt spin, but flow still goes around the wheel. I never bothered checking the unit for clogs due to the fact that I was getting my desired flow based on flow cup readings. Lobonte will replace the unit with no problem. Problem solved. Its always STUPID shit that goes wrong. Hopefully this thread will help someone in the future. Case closed.

lol... thanks for the update

alextremo · 11-01-2010, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Clap135

Figured it out.

Picture a floating wheel with fins, that wheel spins based on flow. My wheel doesnt spin, but flow still goes around the wheel. I never bothered checking the unit for clogs due to the fact that I was getting my desired flow based on flow cup readings. Lobonte will replace the unit with no problem. Problem solved. Its always STUPID shit that goes wrong. Hopefully this thread will help someone in the future. Case closed.

Glad to hear you figured out the cause of your issues. Any idea how it got damaged?

themyst · 11-01-2010, 05:50 PM

Labonte customer service ftw. Had two units replaced no problem through Dan.

MFKN3 · 12-01-2010, 01:24 AM

Mine recently started playing up. Debug 7 has gone from just over 12 to 10. I had to drop my user settings to 9.9 so meth map would transition and the meth dash lights would stay on.

I checked the nozzle and flow and everything seems fine.... not sure what to make of it now?? Can the failsafe be opened so I can inspect the wheel?

Clap135 · 12-01-2010, 01:42 AM

nope, its incased in molded plastic. I've had 3 fail, there appears to be a problem with these. I am pretty much waiting till firday for an answer or a working unit, then requesting my money back. Its been MONTHS since I had a working failsafe.

MFKN3 · 12-01-2010, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Clap135

nope, its incased in molded plastic. I've had 3 fail, there appears to be a problem with these. I am pretty much waiting till firday for an answer or a working unit, then requesting my money back. Its been MONTHS since I had a working failsafe.

Thanks mate. Thank god for autotune if the meth flow is indeed restricted, but I am 99% sure it's just the Labonte unit crapping out. My car is still autotuning to 17-18psi.

On that note, my labonte never saw 13-15 on debug 7. The unit output seems pretty inconsistent amongst users around here. I suppose a spinning wheel design is a little basic for any precise reading.

10-30-2010, 04:23 PM	#47
cn555ic 462 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	Either way i hope the both of you can get it working. You guys seem to know your shit so I am sure it will be working in no time! Let's hope the next modules are 100% functional
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10-30-2010, 05:18 PM	#48
Clap135 Brigadier General 105 Rep 3,460 Posts Drives: 2009 N54 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sticky's Mom House iTrader: (1)	Went for a ride, barely hitting 7 according to the procede. I got a feeling im going to be getting that 5.0 sooner than I though. This car is nothing but problems.
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10-30-2010, 05:29 PM	#49
pentaxis Captain 31 Rep 685 Posts Drives: Space Grey E92 335i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (3)	Have you attempted a reload of the procede firmware and map perhaps? I know its a long shot, but might be worth it.
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10-30-2010, 05:49 PM	#51
themyst Major General 189 Rep 6,631 Posts Drives: '16 MK7 GTI Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (8)	put the pump up to 250 psi, getting anywhere between 15-17 now through a check valve. Now let's see if it stays that way. __________________ E90 LCI N54 6AT
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10-30-2010, 06:50 PM	#52
Clap135 Brigadier General 105 Rep 3,460 Posts Drives: 2009 N54 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sticky's Mom House iTrader: (1)	I update the the firmware maps to the newest beta, I can't leave this the hell alone so I am replacing the entire meth line, if its still shit, ill switch the firmware, if that fixes it I am mailing shiv a bomb
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10-30-2010, 06:55 PM	#53
cn555ic 462 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	So your his fourth beta tester!!
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10-30-2010, 07:03 PM	#54
themyst Major General 189 Rep 6,631 Posts Drives: '16 MK7 GTI Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (8)	clap, if all else fails, i'll let you try my ifs-30 so you can rule the box out as the problem. __________________ E90 LCI N54 6AT
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10-30-2010, 07:56 PM	#56
Clap135 Brigadier General 105 Rep 3,460 Posts Drives: 2009 N54 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sticky's Mom House iTrader: (1)	Well replaced the entire meth line, still shit flow, however the 0-1 thing seems to have gone away. How that is possible is beyond me. Next, firmware chage
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10-30-2010, 08:01 PM	#57
EDM92 Colonel 163 Rep 2,561 Posts Drives: Low&Slow Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Florida iTrader: (9)	This is insanity. Subscribed to see what the problem ends up being. __________________ Montego Blue 2007 E92 335i - ZSP / ZPP / Steptronic / Logic7 Broadway Static - CCW - Megan - Orion Instagram: bmwforlife
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10-30-2010, 10:06 PM	#59
Clap135 Brigadier General 105 Rep 3,460 Posts Drives: 2009 N54 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sticky's Mom House iTrader: (1)	Well, same crap. I rulled out the procede 100 percent by following Shivs directions. I took pin 10 (map sensor) stripped the insulation, and connected the procede meth input to it. debug byte 7 read 39 which is roughly 2 volts which is EXACTLY where it should be. My replacement labonte flow sense is shot, or wasnt fixed right. Saturday wasted.
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11-01-2010, 05:04 PM	#60
Clap135 Brigadier General 105 Rep 3,460 Posts Drives: 2009 N54 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sticky's Mom House iTrader: (1)	Figured it out. Picture a floating wheel with fins, that wheel spins based on flow. My wheel doesnt spin, but flow still goes around the wheel. I never bothered checking the unit for clogs due to the fact that I was getting my desired flow based on flow cup readings. Lobonte will replace the unit with no problem. Problem solved. Its always STUPID shit that goes wrong. Hopefully this thread will help someone in the future. Case closed.
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11-01-2010, 05:50 PM	#63
themyst Major General 189 Rep 6,631 Posts Drives: '16 MK7 GTI Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (8)	Labonte customer service ftw. Had two units replaced no problem through Dan. __________________ E90 LCI N54 6AT
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12-01-2010, 01:24 AM	#64
MFKN3 Colonel 134 Rep 2,224 Posts Drives: supercharged 4.4L stroker E92 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Australia iTrader: (2)	Mine recently started playing up. Debug 7 has gone from just over 12 to 10. I had to drop my user settings to 9.9 so meth map would transition and the meth dash lights would stay on. I checked the nozzle and flow and everything seems fine.... not sure what to make of it now?? Can the failsafe be opened so I can inspect the wheel?
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12-01-2010, 01:42 AM	#65
Clap135 Brigadier General 105 Rep 3,460 Posts Drives: 2009 N54 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sticky's Mom House iTrader: (1)	nope, its incased in molded plastic. I've had 3 fail, there appears to be a problem with these. I am pretty much waiting till firday for an answer or a working unit, then requesting my money back. Its been MONTHS since I had a working failsafe.
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