PROcede V5 update from Shiv (6AT misfire, ignition advance preview)

AltecBX · 01-06-2011, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Hey guys,
Definitely seemed to be a problem more common in cold conditions which is why I could never replicate the misfire in CA. But it was a simple fix once i had a car in front of me. Spent the last three days doing both n55 and n54 6mt/6at/7dct testing and actually got a lot of stuff done. Including, for the first time, an autotuning timing bump for those who want more power without having to run more boost. This will be of great benefit for those running meth or racegas.

Will these increase power for non meth users as well?

Glad this issue was fixed.

themyst · 01-06-2011, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by happy4nk8er

How did you get the Snow failsafe to work? It does not have 0-5v output.
I have both the Labonte and Snow unit, but bought the Labonte as I thought the Snow FS would not work.

The only difference is the scaling of both units. The Labonte unit is scaled 0-5V (0 ml/min - 2.5 gal/min) and the Snow unit is scaled 0-1.5V (0ml/min - 1500ml/min). When I was testing out the JB4 there were people using it without issue, so I imagined it was no different on the PROcede. I got a meth flow max reading of 21 on a CM10 nozzle @ 220psi with solenoid. I set it at 19 and it works flawlessly. If 1 = .05V, that means I am flowing about 950-1050ml/min.

Time will tell if it will hold up to high concentrations of methanol, but been running it for 3 weeks or so without issue.

themyst · 01-06-2011, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AltecBX

Will these increase power for non meth users as well?

Glad this issue was fixed.

No, it won't. Advancing timing on pump gas is counterproductive, especially since it has a hard enough time supporting the stock ignition set point to begin with.

ETS Michael · 01-06-2011, 11:16 PM

Looking forward to the update!

cn555ic · 01-06-2011, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by themyst

No, it won't. Advancing timing on pump gas is counterproductive, especially since it has a hard enough time supporting the stock ignition set point to begin with.

Why didnt you reply to my PM?

dzenno · 01-06-2011, 11:44 PM

cn555ic, how the heck did you manage almost 13k posts

that's insane

cn555ic · 01-07-2011, 12:23 AM

THats almost four years of posting, but there is an OP that has well over 120,000 post in little over 2 years!!! NOW that INSANE!

itsbrokeagain · 01-07-2011, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

THats almost four years of posting, but there is an OP that has well over 120,000 post in little over 2 years!!! NOW that INSANE!

who also, because of him got the regional section post count to be disabled. Fucking idiot

Steve your posts reflect the mileage on your car...long time here but so little posts

AltecBX · 01-07-2011, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dzenno

cn555ic, how the heck did you manage almost 13k posts

that's insane

I would say 8k of those has to do with "Nitrous".

j/k cn55ic

Enicinitas · 01-07-2011, 01:46 AM

I have the labonte - just got it with a kit. Myst - should I even bother with installing it or should I just order the SNOW SI? I'm not planning on running more than an 80 -85 % ratio. Did your labonte work when / if you ever used less than 100 percent meth?

Congrats on you guys working out a solution for the misfires as well!

enrita · 01-07-2011, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Enicinitas

I have the labonte - just got it with a kit. Myst - should I even bother with installing it or should I just order the SNOW SI? I'm not planning on running more than an 80 -85 % ratio. Did your labonte work when / if you ever used less than 100 percent meth?

Congrats on you guys working out a solution for the misfires as well!

I also had the snow but in order to avoid any compatibility issues i got the labonte. If it fails i will put the snow one on.
Just wait and see . If the connection is done gonna be very quick to swap them out.

cn555ic · 01-07-2011, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by AltecBX

I would say 8k of those has to do with "Nitrous".

j/k cn55ic

LOL...I would say about 800 of those posts are for nitrous...

themyst · 01-07-2011, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by enrita

I also had the snow but in order to avoid any compatibility issues i got the labonte. If it fails i will put the snow one on.
Just wait and see . If the connection is done gonna be very quick to swap them out.

The snow has one more wire than the Labonte unit, but other than that it was reasonably simple. You need to connect one wire (red) to the battery terminal, and another wire (purple) to the progressive output of your progressive controller OR purple wire to the red wire from the pump if you run a basic kit.

ArizSun21 · 01-07-2011, 10:06 AM

Awesome...putting new plugs in Sat ready for the car to run right again

bryce · 01-07-2011, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Autobahn335i

Good news! Do the new maps also solve the misfires when traction control (DTC) kicks in?

other people are experiencing this? i posted this thread a few weeks ago, the problem still hasn't gone away. i drive with the DTC disabled and the car runs fine for the most part. any more info on the DTC related misfires?

themyst · 01-07-2011, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bryce

other people are experiencing this? i posted this thread a few weeks ago, the problem still hasn't gone away. i drive with the DTC disabled and the car runs fine for the most part. any more info on the DTC related misfires?

I would say try the new "fixed" maps coming out. The actual issue was something CPS related, so I imagine it should fix this issue as well. We will see I guess.

**335i** · 01-07-2011, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bryce

other people are experiencing this? i posted this thread a few weeks ago, the problem still hasn't gone away. i drive with the DTC disabled and the car runs fine for the most part. any more info on the DTC related misfires?

are u AT or MT? to whom it concerns? i dont have cruise stalk button so i wont be able turn maps without DTC disabled

how this will work?

Skydive · 01-07-2011, 12:53 PM

So as someone who bought a Procede days before v5 came along, where can I grab the v5 firmware with which to update?

(07 e90 6AT)

Thanks!

enrita · 01-07-2011, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Skydive

So as someone who bought a Procede days before v5 came along, where can I grab the v5 firmware with which to update?

(07 e90 6AT)

Thanks!

http://www.procedetuning.com/BMW/n54...downloads.html
but you should wait to next week maps since there are important updates if you are AT.

enrita · 01-07-2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by **335i**

are u AT or MT? to whom it concerns? i dont have cruise stalk button so i wont be able turn maps without DTC disabled

how this will work?

you have completely missunderstood his post. He is talking about missfires due to DTC TRACTION CONTROL ENABLED when throttle get closed by it NOT the button NOT working anymore

**335i** · 01-07-2011, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by enrita

you have completely missunderstood his post. He is talking about missfires due to DTC TRACTION CONTROL ENABLED when throttle get closed by it NOT the button NOT working anymore

i see you as always helping me a lot

by the way does that traction comes with v5 activated or disabled by default?

enrita · 01-07-2011, 01:12 PM

The procede does not change bmw own traction control. It will work as it works in you car now without it.

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