Flash loading with latest BMW software!

Clap135 · 01-26-2011, 01:36 PM

Lmao....pawned?

mithiral67 · 01-26-2011, 01:47 PM

Ha, after all the bashing here, the guess proof supported by a <20 post member with a pdf not even describing the car with zero detail in the post is enough.

I love the internet.

D.B.S · 01-26-2011, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mithiral67

Ha, after all the bashing here, the guess proof supported by a <20 post member with a pdf not even describing the car with zero detail in the post is enough.

I love the internet.

Whats your point? He's been a member since 10/2010... Just because his post count's are low on "this" forum doesn't mean it can't be a legitimate product? Sure a lot more details would be nice, but I'd say it's a step in the right direction...

Hell I have 900+ posts and I don't understand a quarter of the shit that's talked about on here, but that' doesn't keep me from posting... The amounts of post a person has doesn't determine their knowledge base or credibility... Prime example, that Donald -335 guy has like 3.5k posts, but he burned every bridge known to man and cheated, lied and stole from members on this very forum... So your comment about post number is just ridiculous... But I do agree with you that more information would be good for all...

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 01-28-2011, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clap135

Lmao....pawned?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...5&postcount=42

I think you got pawned....

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankiE90

Found out through the grape vine.
Paw Tune is benchload'd. Need to remove ecu.

OP hasn't chimed back in?

Mike

SliverBullet · 01-28-2011, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...5&postcount=42

I think you got pawned....

Mike

Game, Set, Match. Checkmate. Good job Mike.

Bagelfast · 01-28-2011, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...5&postcount=42

I think you got pawned....

Mike

OUCH

OpenFlash · 01-28-2011, 04:23 PM

Pics of me benchloading a n55 DME earlier this week

Rob@Cobb · 01-28-2011, 04:48 PM

Hey Everyone,

The setup Mike posted is the "back door" to the MEVD172 which is how Dimsport always starts selling a product. Next up you will see them switch to OBDII tuning. Same story, different ECU.

I have what is needed to crack the N55, but it's going to take me some time as most of my time is being devoted to N54 tuning.

Cheers,
Rob

Alext · 01-28-2011, 05:05 PM

So this means that Dimsport & others will be able to one day get around the 'flash-proofing' of the BMW ECUs so that tunes can be loading from the OBDII. Question is when!

bulldog_yyc · 01-28-2011, 05:28 PM

well with the method shown above, they will try to load some code into the ECU or exploit an existing weakness to open up an access path via ODB2. Problem is that it will take a while to go map this thing out, unless the address and correspoding code is leaked. If they cant, they may just solder an additional access point into the ECU and update that way (like Hondata)

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 01-28-2011, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SliverBullet

Game, Set, Match. Checkmate. Good job Mike.

Clap135 · 01-28-2011, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob@Cobb

Hey Everyone,

The setup Mike posted is the "back door" to the MEVD172 which is how Dimsport always starts selling a product. Next up you will see them switch to OBDII tuning. Same story, different ECU.

I have what is needed to crack the N55, but it's going to take me some time as most of my time is being devoted to N54 tuning.

Cheers,
Rob

Who got pawned mike?

Jake@MOTIV · 01-28-2011, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clap135

Who got pawned mike?

Mike - piece of advice - wait a little while - make sure you get facts straight - you just look novice at this point. You generalize statements and you don't understand how timing works in a real tune. Stop, think, do. Its a good strategy.

SliverBullet · 01-28-2011, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clap135

Who got pawned mike?

YOU DID!!!!!!

Jake@MOTIV · 01-28-2011, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SliverBullet

YOU DID!!!!!!

You're an idiot lol. You too need to stop and think before you post. Read again:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob@Cobb

Hey Everyone,

The setup Mike posted is the "back door" to the MEVD172 which is how Dimsport always starts selling a product. Next up you will see them switch to OBDII tuning. Same story, different ECU.

I have what is needed to crack the N55, but it's going to take me some time as most of my time is being devoted to N54 tuning.

Cheers,
Rob

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 01-28-2011, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyLow335i

Mike - piece of advice - wait a little while - make sure you get facts straight - you just look novice at this point. You generalize statements and you don't understand how timing works in a real tune. Stop, think, do. Its a good strategy.

I think I have my facts straight.. If you look back at my OP, I said the ECU is encrypted then Ladoosh posted that I got pawned because of some new flash that turns out to be bench loaded, which is exactly what I said. I never said it wasn't ever going to possible to do an OBD load, just said right now its encrypted with a new encryption algorithm and only way to flash the N55 is through a bench load.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

So don't get your hopes up for N55 OBDII flash tuning any time soon.

This whole thread and anti-BMS/N54tuning sentiment that Ladoosh/Clap135 has is really odd as I was just providing information beneficial to the community. I thought it was great news that the N54 with the latest software is still flash-able. But as with everything it has to be taken to the tuner war extreme.....

Mike

Clap135 · 01-28-2011, 11:14 PM

lol right.

Btw I am not anti BMS, I am anti "shit" tunes, if the two are the same, well then I can't help it. If you come out with a proper tune, there will be no anti BMS. I said this multiple times, if Terry comes out with something better than is currently out, Ill buy it, however I dont see that happening

cwg · 01-28-2011, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vasillalov

Yet, I know someone local with Stage 1 Beta 135i....

This seems to have been lost in all the bashing. Thats great news that the ESS n55 flash is in Beta - any more details you can share?

cwg · 01-28-2011, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob@Cobb

Hey Everyone,

The setup Mike posted is the "back door" to the MEVD172 which is how Dimsport always starts selling a product. Next up you will see them switch to OBDII tuning. Same story, different ECU.

I have what is needed to crack the N55, but it's going to take me some time as most of my time is being devoted to N54 tuning.

Cheers,
Rob

Well then get to it!

Jake@MOTIV · 01-29-2011, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

This whole thread and anti-BMS/N54tuning sentiment that Ladoosh/Clap135 has is really odd as I was just providing information beneficial to the community. I thought it was great news that the N54 with the latest software is still flash-able. But as with everything it has to be taken to the tuner war extreme.....

Mike

This whole thread was designed as you creating an atmosphere where people think flash tunes are very far out or not possible for the n55 providing a prime opportunity for you to sell a sub par product as the only option. I would hope people here aren't dumb enough to have that go over their heads.

FrankiE90 · 01-29-2011, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob@Cobb

Hey Everyone,

The setup Mike posted is the "back door" to the MEVD172 which is how Dimsport always starts selling a product. Next up you will see them switch to OBDII tuning. Same story, different ECU.

I have what is needed to crack the N55, but it's going to take me some time as most of my time is being devoted to N54 tuning.

Cheers,
Rob

thanks for the reassurance Rob.
no rush here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Pics of me benchloading a n55 DME earlier this week

awesome.
nice work shiv.

D.B.S · 01-29-2011, 12:59 AM

For those who care, and for those who don't...

As an owner (albeit temporary, as I got my N55 JB3 tune gratis), I have to say the Stage 1 tune for my N55 X5 is good... It's not great, it's not horrible, but good. It provides a nice bump and gets rid of the slight lag that most N55's have... Am I Satisfied, Hell NO... I came from a V4 power 335xi, and I miss that level of power... I am rooting for the Flash tuners at this point, because the Stg 1 tune from BMS, while good, is not good enough for me... I was spoiled by the V4...

I am not knocking what was provided... It's a good product, but... Always a But, Until Terry releases Stg 2 (which for the N55 135/335's is probably right around the corner) Tuning the X5/535's is a whole other ball game. According to good authority the programming for the X5/535 N55's is totally different than what the 135/335 crowd has and tuning it will be a lot more difficult... I'm hoping that OE tuning (which seems to be the only ones working on a Flash for the N55 X5 series) proves everyone wrong about being able to flash load the N55 thru the OBD2 port. Fingers crossed... Maybe it takes a week, maybe a month or a year, but the only other tuner I know who is working on the X5 is Shiv and Vishnu... Take it how you want... I'm not a fanboi obviously because I went from a procede to a JB3, but only out of neccessity, not out of loyalty to one or another. If Vishnu comes out with their tune for the X5 before OE, then I'll go back to the procede, and while I proved the JB3 will work on the X5, I will be returning the equipment to it's rightful owner, as I did not pay for it, and only did testing for it.

Time will tell what capabilities the Flash tuners will have on the N55 eventually, and I'm sure it will be good for all... Piggy back systems will always have their place, until such a time that the flashes are as good as, or better... But that is the way of technology, always have, always will... /end rant

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mithiral67 That guy 122 Rep 5,740 Posts Drives: 2015 Cayman GTS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chicago Burbs iTrader: (4) Garage List 2015 Porsche Cayman ... [0.00]	Ha, after all the bashing here, the guess proof supported by a <20 post member with a pdf not even describing the car with zero detail in the post is enough. I love the internet. __________________ 2015 - Cayman GTS - Stock 2011 - 335is e92 - Cobb PTF E40/Rob - Beck/AR/Helix (458 rwtq and 479 rwhp) - Retired 2007 - 911 Turbo - EP1/AMS (617 awtq and 500 awhp) - Retired 2008 - 335i e92 - Cobb/AR/Helix/OSS (384 rwtq and 356 rwhp) - Retired
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Rob@Cobb Lieutenant 43 Rep 468 Posts Drives: 2011 E92 335i ///M Pack Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (0)	Hey Everyone, The setup Mike posted is the "back door" to the MEVD172 which is how Dimsport always starts selling a product. Next up you will see them switch to OBDII tuning. Same story, different ECU. I have what is needed to crack the N55, but it's going to take me some time as most of my time is being devoted to N54 tuning. Cheers, Rob
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Alext Banned 159 Rep 2,042 Posts Drives: B M W Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Everest iTrader: (2)	So this means that Dimsport & others will be able to one day get around the 'flash-proofing' of the BMW ECUs so that tunes can be loading from the OBDII. Question is when!
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bulldog_yyc Major General 139 Rep 5,040 Posts Drives: GT3RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: probably work iTrader: (28)	well with the method shown above, they will try to load some code into the ECU or exploit an existing weakness to open up an access path via ODB2. Problem is that it will take a while to go map this thing out, unless the address and correspoding code is leaked. If they cant, they may just solder an additional access point into the ECU and update that way (like Hondata)
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Clap135 Brigadier General 112 Rep 3,460 Posts Drives: 2009 N54 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sticky's Mom House iTrader: (1)	lol right. Btw I am not anti BMS, I am anti "shit" tunes, if the two are the same, well then I can't help it. If you come out with a proper tune, there will be no anti BMS. I said this multiple times, if Terry comes out with something better than is currently out, Ill buy it, however I dont see that happening
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D.B.S Lieutenant Colonel 30 Rep 1,748 Posts Drives: '11 X5 35i / '13 S5 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Deployed to Kuwait iTrader: (2)	For those who care, and for those who don't... As an owner (albeit temporary, as I got my N55 JB3 tune gratis), I have to say the Stage 1 tune for my N55 X5 is good... It's not great, it's not horrible, but good. It provides a nice bump and gets rid of the slight lag that most N55's have... Am I Satisfied, Hell NO... I came from a V4 power 335xi, and I miss that level of power... I am rooting for the Flash tuners at this point, because the Stg 1 tune from BMS, while good, is not good enough for me... I was spoiled by the V4... I am not knocking what was provided... It's a good product, but... Always a But, Until Terry releases Stg 2 (which for the N55 135/335's is probably right around the corner) Tuning the X5/535's is a whole other ball game. According to good authority the programming for the X5/535 N55's is totally different than what the 135/335 crowd has and tuning it will be a lot more difficult... I'm hoping that OE tuning (which seems to be the only ones working on a Flash for the N55 X5 series) proves everyone wrong about being able to flash load the N55 thru the OBD2 port. Fingers crossed... Maybe it takes a week, maybe a month or a year, but the only other tuner I know who is working on the X5 is Shiv and Vishnu... Take it how you want... I'm not a fanboi obviously because I went from a procede to a JB3, but only out of neccessity, not out of loyalty to one or another. If Vishnu comes out with their tune for the X5 before OE, then I'll go back to the procede, and while I proved the JB3 will work on the X5, I will be returning the equipment to it's rightful owner, as I did not pay for it, and only did testing for it. Time will tell what capabilities the Flash tuners will have on the N55 eventually, and I'm sure it will be good for all... Piggy back systems will always have their place, until such a time that the flashes are as good as, or better... But that is the way of technology, always have, always will... /end rant __________________ BMW X5 35i: Boopie Exhaust & Intercooler, K&N Drop in Filter, JB3 (3+ psi) 2013 Dodge Challenger R/T: CAI, Catch Can, Custom Exhaust, Headers, 87MM Throttle Body, Diablo Custom 93 OCT Tune Last edited by D.B.S; 01-29-2011 at 01:26 AM..
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