Australian motor shows- a waste of time and money?

BMW //MPOWER · 03-08-2007, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris.G

^ i was also at one stage interested in ALFA's but i heard the resale of the GTA's were pathetic so i backed off. Shame cos Alfa's are so appealing to me.

Agreed, personally i think the Brera is an awesome looking car, pity that the V6 is like $95k, so there's not point to it... then again... i might just get the missus one for awhile...

Chris.G · 03-08-2007, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BMW //MPOWER

Agreed, personally i think the Brera is an awesome looking car, pity that the V6 is like $95k, so there's not point to it... then again... i might just get the missus one for awhile...

yeah not bad idea but think of resale

Its like when you drive out of the dealer you get

with minus $30,000 immediately

astra · 03-08-2007, 04:44 PM

that's what happens too much with euro cars anyway...

Chris.G · 03-08-2007, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by astra

that's what happens too much with euro cars anyway...

NO Alfa's are the worst for resale value in the Euro's

astra · 03-08-2007, 06:55 PM

generisation.... i know what you meant

Chris.G · 03-08-2007, 07:19 PM

Fully!

funky_chilli · 03-09-2007, 06:07 AM

yeah fully...haha
i ended up going to the motor show in the end
wen last nite with a few friends
it was ok....not really anything there that i hadn't seen before apart from the hummer H3 (disapointed - it's so plastic inside - and it's the tiny one...wanted to get in a huge huge HUGE car)
and saw an audi S5 - it was an international release of it so good to be one of the first in the world to see it - but then again it's an audi so who cares? hahaha
finally sat in a TT and it's TINY - that's saying a lot considering i drive a MINI!

all in all it was ok coz i do love cars etc - lucky my ticket was free!!

and yes, in case ur wondering, there were lambos, astons, ferraris, porsches etc etc but nothing really new that i hadn't seen before
and yes there was kia

but i didn't really pay attention, along with ford, holden, mazda,
so disapointed that MINI didn't have a stand with their new car being launched like this week in sydney and in a few weeks in melb....stupid move if u ask me

VGR00 · 03-09-2007, 07:57 AM

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NO Alfa's are the worst for resale value in the Euro's

I can vouch for that first hand having just got out of one. The wholesalers don't want them and all they can do is talk about how problematic they are. I can honestly say that after 4 years of Alfa ownership, it had less problems over the years than my E39 5 series that I still also own. The only reason I kept the 5 and not the Alfa was my wife wont drive a manual (I had a Selespeed but it's still a manual but clutchless).

CHRISG - It's well known the 147 GTA's have diferential problems (they blow up) Ateco (importer who handles warrenty claims) will do it's best to not honor a warrenty claim. This sucks and probably was the real reason why I didn't go back to Alfa. Funny since Ateco also handle Ferrari and Maserati. I can't see them treating those owners the same way. One thing BMW know how to do is keep customers happy by attending to warrenty claims quickly and without a fuss.

Chris.G · 03-09-2007, 04:50 PM

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I can vouch for that first hand having just got out of one. The wholesalers don't want them and all they can do is talk about how problematic they are. I can honestly say that after 4 years of Alfa ownership, it had less problems over the years than my E39 5 series that I still also own. The only reason I kept the 5 and not the Alfa was my wife wont drive a manual (I had a Selespeed but it's still a manual but clutchless).

CHRISG - It's well known the 147 GTA's have diferential problems (they blow up) Ateco (importer who handles warrenty claims) will do it's best to not honor a warrenty claim. This sucks and probably was the real reason why I didn't go back to Alfa. Funny since Ateco also handle Ferrari and Maserati. I can't see them treating those owners the same way. One thing BMW know how to do is keep customers happy by attending to warrenty claims quickly and without a fuss.

I heard about how they try to avoid warranty related issues

I also have heard of many engine problems with the Alfa 156 GTA and the first im hearing of a 147 GTA of having diferential problems, but it doesn't suprise me.

astra · 03-09-2007, 07:55 PM

oh don't talk to me about dealers trying to avoid waranties... screw that, i went crazy at them

VGR00 · 03-10-2007, 06:43 AM

I'd disagree on the 156GTA having engine problems. That 3.2L is the sweatest but it's downfall is it is in a front wheel drive. AWD would be fantastic. Funny thing, the 156GTA never had diff problems but the 147GTA is well known to blow diffs.

Chris.G · 03-10-2007, 05:22 PM

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I'd disagree on the 156GTA having engine problems. That 3.2L is the sweatest but it's downfall is it is in a front wheel drive. AWD would be fantastic. Funny thing, the 156GTA never had diff problems but the 147GTA is well known to blow diffs.

A guy that worked next my shop had a 156 GTA and he had tones of engine problems

It could have been one of those one off kind of things. The engine was sweet to listen to though, when he revved it up for me in the car park

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