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      07-27-2011, 12:54 PM   #45
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Jeff,

How does AutoTuning work? To make such bold statements, you surely must know the logic behind the feature.

You failed to answer mitheral67's questions about AutoTuning in the E90post thread of the year (Why Cobb over Procede?). Don't you think it's necessary to understand how something works before we install it on our cars? Shiv has spent a lot of time detailing other Procede features in the past; how come he's never posted a detailed explanation of AutoTuning yet?

I don't care about seeing logs of AutoTuning in action; I want to know how it works.
Interpol, it's obvious from your latest post that your intentions are not to learn. You are fishing. You are looking for something to slip up through the cracks that you can pounce on. What is it you really want to know? For the average joe the information that has been presented about auto-tuning on this forum has been suffice for everyone else but you it seems. I havn't even been a member on this forum that long and I understand the concept. It is quite obvious your intentions are to simply harass. What makes you think you deserve to know the exact inner workings and algorithms? Do you ask your local pizzeria for their secret ingredients and attack them with confrontational tactics until you get your answer? You ever think that might be proprietary to Vishnu? You ever think they might want to keep their tuning logic to themselves so nobody steals it like other things have been in the past? Use your head, take a breather, we are all on the same team here which is the quest for more safe usable power. Stop attacking everyone like they owe you something.
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Email sent I am going to the track this weekend and I would love to test it out! Is autotuning enabled on Map 4 as well?
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Jeff,

How does AutoTuning work? To make such bold statements, you surely must know the logic behind the feature.

You failed to answer mitheral67's questions about AutoTuning in the E90post thread of the year (Why Cobb over Procede?). Don't you think it's necessary to understand how something works before we install it on our cars? Shiv has spent a lot of time detailing other Procede features in the past; how come he's never posted a detailed explanation of AutoTuning yet?

I don't care about seeing logs of AutoTuning in action; I want to know how it works.
Clap, is that you?
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      07-27-2011, 01:09 PM   #48
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Clap, is that you?
LOL

No way!

He doesn't use punctuation, capital letters, or any form of English grammar in his post. He just says what is on his mind and what his phone auto spell checks too.
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Jeff,

How does AutoTuning work? To make such bold statements, you surely must know the logic behind the feature.

You failed to answer mitheral67's questions about AutoTuning in the E90post thread of the year (Why Cobb over Procede?). Don't you think it's necessary to understand how something works before we install it on our cars? Shiv has spent a lot of time detailing other Procede features in the past; how come he's never posted a detailed explanation of AutoTuning yet?

I don't care about seeing logs of AutoTuning in action; I want to know how it works.
jeff and shiv answered the question exactly , Obviously your just a cobb e90 fan boy who doesnt know much about anything ,trying to cause trouble.... basically your a nub!
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      07-27-2011, 08:37 PM   #50
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Glad it's back...can't wait for public release...test away folks
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      07-28-2011, 05:54 AM   #51
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The latest autotune map IIRC is 12-17. Is that what you are on?

6-14 and 7-11 doesnt have full autotune it is just read-only.
i am using 12-17... still get 2d2e code...esp when the a/c is on.

I also have the latest BMW softare...but this problem didnt show up until 2-3 months after the software upgrade

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jeff and shiv answered the question exactly , Obviously your just a cobb e90 fan boy who doesnt know much about anything ,trying to cause trouble.... basically your a nub!
Right. You're absolutely right. Currently the COBB AP is on my shelf and the Procede is in the car. I am not fully satisfied with any available tune at this moment, yet I am a fan boy of COBB.

The comments about Clap are amusing. The e90post community lost a valuable asset when he was banned for his behavior on the regional forums. Look back at the animosity and enemies he created in the ar single turbo threads for example. Was he a troll or was he right?

But, back on topic...

Shiv's introductory post showed how well AutoTune works when the initial settings are incredibly conservative for the mods. It also showed how well it works when it sees knock due to settings that are way too aggressive. The AutoTune feature does a great job when it is presented with the two extreme examples. I would like to know how it acts when it is near the optimal tuning boundary for the conditions since that is where it will be for the majority of the time.

Let us assume that the car experiences its first AutoTune-induced timing drop of 3 degrees because boost/timing corrections that were too aggressive for the conditions were applied. The Procede decreases the corrections and now we have settings that are on the "happy" side of the optimal tuning boundary. Since the car should not experience any timing drops with the new corrections applied, when will be the next time time the AutoTuning feature will increase boost/timing to make the tune more aggressive? What determines the frequency that the optimal tuning boundary is tested? Does AutoTune basically find the boundary and then "ride the knock sensor"? If it does not "ride the knock sensor", then how does it know if it is aggressive enough for the conditions?
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any updates?
Yep. All is good. Will on public within the next few days. Just need to write up documentation first.
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Right. You're absolutely right. Currently the COBB AP is on my shelf and the Procede is in the car. I am not fully satisfied with any available tune at this moment, yet I am a fan boy of COBB.

The comments about Clap are amusing. The e90post community lost a valuable asset when he was banned for his behavior on the regional forums. Look back at the animosity and enemies he created in the ar single turbo threads for example. Was he a troll or was he right?

But, back on topic...

Shiv's introductory post showed how well AutoTune works when the initial settings are incredibly conservative for the mods. It also showed how well it works when it sees knock due to settings that are way too aggressive. The AutoTune feature does a great job when it is presented with the two extreme examples. I would like to know how it acts when it is near the optimal tuning boundary for the conditions since that is where it will be for the majority of the time.

Let us assume that the car experiences its first AutoTune-induced timing drop of 3 degrees because boost/timing corrections that were too aggressive for the conditions were applied. The Procede decreases the corrections and now we have settings that are on the "happy" side of the optimal tuning boundary. Since the car should not experience any timing drops with the new corrections applied, when will be the next time time the AutoTuning feature will increase boost/timing to make the tune more aggressive? What determines the frequency that the optimal tuning boundary is tested? Does AutoTune basically find the boundary and then "ride the knock sensor"? If it does not "ride the knock sensor", then how does it know if it is aggressive enough for the conditions?
Did you ask BMW all these questions about their DME and how it functions when you bought your car too, I bet your salesmen LOVED you
Clap will be back late August we didnt lose him and the childish kids fighting with him were at fault for starting the whole situation.
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wooo hooo...can't wait to put my v5 back in
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Yep. All is good. Will on public within the next few days. Just need to write up documentation first.
Will this new public release have the 6at timing fix?
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Right. You're absolutely right. Currently the COBB AP is on my shelf and the Procede is in the car. I am not fully satisfied with any available tune at this moment, yet I am a fan boy of COBB.

The comments about Clap are amusing. The e90post community lost a valuable asset when he was banned for his behavior on the regional forums. Look back at the animosity and enemies he created in the ar single turbo threads for example. Was he a troll or was he right?

But, back on topic...

Shiv's introductory post showed how well AutoTune works when the initial settings are incredibly conservative for the mods. It also showed how well it works when it sees knock due to settings that are way too aggressive. The AutoTune feature does a great job when it is presented with the two extreme examples. I would like to know how it acts when it is near the optimal tuning boundary for the conditions since that is where it will be for the majority of the time.

Let us assume that the car experiences its first AutoTune-induced timing drop of 3 degrees because boost/timing corrections that were too aggressive for the conditions were applied. The Procede decreases the corrections and now we have settings that are on the "happy" side of the optimal tuning boundary. Since the car should not experience any timing drops with the new corrections applied, when will be the next time time the AutoTuning feature will increase boost/timing to make the tune more aggressive? What determines the frequency that the optimal tuning boundary is tested? Does AutoTune basically find the boundary and then "ride the knock sensor"? If it does not "ride the knock sensor", then how does it know if it is aggressive enough for the conditions?
Clap is rarely, if ever a troll. He simply hates bullshit and does everything in his power to disprove those claims.
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Please don't take this thread off topic.
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How about answering my question about the 6at timing fix?
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How about answering my question about the 6at timing fix?
You can wait just like everyone else for the documentation.

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Is it done yet?
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Email sent I am going to the track this weekend and I would love to test it out! Is autotuning enabled on Map 4 as well?
Shiv, would the autotuning still be active on Map4 for meth users? My kit will be here soon and I would like to test it. I would assume we would just set the autotuning on map2 to be "on"?
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