3 Codes Need Help COBB AP

pHo_e92 · 10-04-2011, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by E90SoFlo

I uninstalled it today, and did multiple test up to around 140 and NO CODE. at all.

WHAT IS GOING ON

Did you re-install it or did you test it stock? In stock form it may not throw the code because the boost is stock compared to the tune which increases the boost.

E90SoFlo · 10-04-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pHo_e92

Did you re-install it or did you test it stock? In stock form it may not throw the code because the boost is stock compared to the tune which increases the boost.

Yesterday's test was on completely stock boost.

Im re-installing today and will check again.

BMWsky · 10-04-2011, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by E90SoFlo

Yesterday's test was on completely stock boost.

Im re-installing today and will check again.

Troubleshooting is a pain. Have you contacted anyone at Cobb about this? They'll probably want you to do a few logs and send them in.

BTW, 140???

FYI, I threw a bunch of codes using certain maps...once I switched to 3.01, they went away and the car runs great. It might be something as buggy as that.

E90SoFlo · 10-04-2011, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BMWsky

Troubleshooting is a pain. Have you contacted anyone at Cobb about this? They'll probably want you to do a few logs and send them in.

BTW, 140???

FYI, I threw a bunch of codes using certain maps...once I switched to 3.01, they went away and the car runs great. It might be something as buggy as that.

Yes and there response was, Looks like a boost leak, check your IC pippin and charge pipe.. lol

Yes Florida we have lots of long straight "airport" roads that you can see forever.

Im installing today hopefully it goes away.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 10-04-2011, 11:58 AM

Sometimes for stock boost the margin of difference is not enough to throw a code, but on high boost applications it may be.

Troubleshooting boost leaks is quite the pain.

The best method is to hook up a pressurized line to 20 PSI PRE-intercooler and at that point you would likely hear the leak.

Some people do what is referred to as a smoke test but those dont really do anything as they are not pressurized. Where some of these lines may appear ok, when they are under 15+ PSI they will expand and might leak at that point.

If you have the means replace all the Vac lines.

If its still a problem it may be your DV's.

E90SoFlo · 10-04-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff@topgearsolutions

Sometimes for stock boost the margin of difference is not enough to throw a code, but on high boost applications it may be.

Troubleshooting boost leaks is quite the pain.

The best method is to hook up a pressurized line to 20 PSI PRE-intercooler and at that point you would likely hear the leak.

Some people do what is referred to as a smoke test but those dont really do anything as they are not pressurized. Where some of these lines may appear ok, when they are under 15+ PSI they will expand and might leak at that point.

If you have the means replace all the Vac lines.

If its still a problem it may be your DV's.

Im not really sure how I can cap off each turbo so I could find the leak. I think I'm going to end up taking it to a local euro shop. Just have to find one i trust now.

BTW car's a pig stock.

cotmfk · 10-04-2011, 12:06 PM

This community is awesome! Its great that people are taking the time to help this guy out!

FWIW, I threw the 30FF code at 15 psi, but wouldn't throw at 13 psi. I changed to the Forge Diverter valves and put in the yellow springs, and I am good to go at 15 psi now. Good luck!

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 10-04-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by E90SoFlo

Im not really sure how I can cap off each turbo so I could find the leak. I think I'm going to end up taking it to a local euro shop. Just have to find one i trust now.

BTW car's a pig stock.

There's a DIY somewhere but what it ends up being is you remove the pre intercooler inlet, attach a PVC pipe with a closed end, thread it for an air fitting, and have at it. It's a good amount of work. How many miles are on the car?

I know you did your HW as far as finding all the VAC lines but now you need to start playing around with them.

bimmertt · 10-04-2011, 12:18 PM

i'm betting your DVs are leaking

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 10-04-2011, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmertt

i'm betting your DVs are leaking

...probably.

E90SoFlo · 01-05-2012, 10:42 AM

Update:

We did a smoke test throughout the entire system and the guy that was doing it said he didn't see anything. So now I'm blown away.

It only happens after 4-5 sometimes 8-9 seconds of constant 13.5 psi boost.

BMWsky · 01-05-2012, 12:26 PM

Damn, that sucks. I was hoping you were going to post a resolution to the problem.

E90SoFlo · 01-05-2012, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWsky

Damn, that sucks. I was hoping you were going to post a resolution to the problem.

Sorry sky, Im going to have a pressurized test run soon. Hopefully that shows the problem

Rob@Cobb · 01-05-2012, 02:32 PM

E90SoFlo,

Have you send us logs? If not, update to the latest release or beta firmware, make sure you are using the default logging parameters, and send me some WOT 3rd gear pulls from 2000-6000RPM (if you can get there). From that I can see how the car is targeting and actually hitting. This will give me allow me to 100% determine if it's a leak. Between those two codes, it's likely a leak somewhere in the system. I do apologize as this kind of diagnosis can be very frustrating.

Cheers,
Rob

E90SoFlo · 01-05-2012, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob@Cobb

E90SoFlo,

Have you send us logs? If not, update to the latest release or beta firmware, make sure you are using the default logging parameters, and send me some WOT 3rd gear pulls from 2000-6000RPM (if you can get there). From that I can see how the car is targeting and actually hitting. This will give me allow me to 100% determine if it's a leak. Between those two codes, it's likely a leak somewhere in the system. I do apologize as this kind of diagnosis can be very frustrating.

Cheers,
Rob

Will do tomorrow rob. Thanks for replying on here.

Tzu · 01-06-2012, 07:35 AM

Concur with Jeff about pressure test. Smoke tests can be false indicators.

I built a PVC cap with a tire pressure fitting, and a pressure gauge for less than $20 bucks.

E90SoFlo · 01-07-2012, 09:51 AM

Here is the log, if anyone wants to make it a graph very much appreciated.

Sending to Rob in a minute.

Obviously Saturday I'm sure he won't reply which is why Im posting on here first.

E90SoFlo · 01-07-2012, 09:54 AM

As you can see it threw the code at 6 seconds.

E90SoFlo · 01-08-2012, 09:30 PM

Still no reply from Cobb.

nafoo · 01-08-2012, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by E90SoFlo

Still no reply from Cobb.

It's Sunday...?

E90SoFlo · 01-08-2012, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by nafoo

It's Sunday...?

DERR, I thought it was monday when I posted that.

(had the flu all weekend and lost track of days I guess)

E90SoFlo · 01-18-2012, 08:37 PM

I haven't changed anything but now instead of throwing the P30FF I'm getting

P2DED | P2AAF | P30FC

WTF

10-04-2011, 11:58 AM	#49
Jeff@TopGearSolutions 3472 Rep 79,211 Posts Drives: C6 Z06, 09 335i, 10 335xi Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: www.TopGearSolutions.com iTrader: (37)	Sometimes for stock boost the margin of difference is not enough to throw a code, but on high boost applications it may be. Troubleshooting boost leaks is quite the pain. The best method is to hook up a pressurized line to 20 PSI PRE-intercooler and at that point you would likely hear the leak. Some people do what is referred to as a smoke test but those dont really do anything as they are not pressurized. Where some of these lines may appear ok, when they are under 15+ PSI they will expand and might leak at that point. If you have the means replace all the Vac lines. If its still a problem it may be your DV's.
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10-04-2011, 12:06 PM	#51
cotmfk Major General 2151 Rep 6,177 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Somewhere between DC and FL iTrader: (12)	This community is awesome! Its great that people are taking the time to help this guy out! FWIW, I threw the 30FF code at 15 psi, but wouldn't throw at 13 psi. I changed to the Forge Diverter valves and put in the yellow springs, and I am good to go at 15 psi now. Good luck! __________________ When you say impact instead of affect/effect, you are communicating that you don't understand the difference between the two words, and are too lazy to learn.
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10-04-2011, 12:18 PM	#53
bimmertt Lieutenant Colonel 98 Rep 1,799 Posts Drives: 2007 e92 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Earth iTrader: (7)	i'm betting your DVs are leaking
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01-05-2012, 10:42 AM	#55
E90SoFlo Banned 217 Rep 2,669 Posts Drives: E90 335i Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Naples, FL iTrader: (9)	Update: We did a smoke test throughout the entire system and the guy that was doing it said he didn't see anything. So now I'm blown away. It only happens after 4-5 sometimes 8-9 seconds of constant 13.5 psi boost.
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01-05-2012, 12:26 PM	#56
BMWsky Major 25 Rep 1,244 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Webster NY iTrader: (1)	Damn, that sucks. I was hoping you were going to post a resolution to the problem.
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01-05-2012, 02:32 PM	#58
Rob@Cobb Lieutenant 41 Rep 468 Posts Drives: 2011 E92 335i ///M Pack Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (0)	E90SoFlo, Have you send us logs? If not, update to the latest release or beta firmware, make sure you are using the default logging parameters, and send me some WOT 3rd gear pulls from 2000-6000RPM (if you can get there). From that I can see how the car is targeting and actually hitting. This will give me allow me to 100% determine if it's a leak. Between those two codes, it's likely a leak somewhere in the system. I do apologize as this kind of diagnosis can be very frustrating. Cheers, Rob
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01-06-2012, 07:35 AM	#60
Tzu Lieutenant Colonel 29 Rep 1,551 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto iTrader: (1)	Concur with Jeff about pressure test. Smoke tests can be false indicators. I built a PVC cap with a tire pressure fitting, and a pressure gauge for less than $20 bucks.
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01-07-2012, 09:51 AM	#61
E90SoFlo Banned 217 Rep 2,669 Posts Drives: E90 335i Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Naples, FL iTrader: (9)	Here is the log, if anyone wants to make it a graph very much appreciated. Sending to Rob in a minute. Obviously Saturday I'm sure he won't reply which is why Im posting on here first. Attached Images
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01-07-2012, 09:54 AM	#62
E90SoFlo Banned 217 Rep 2,669 Posts Drives: E90 335i Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Naples, FL iTrader: (9)	As you can see it threw the code at 6 seconds.
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01-08-2012, 09:30 PM	#63
E90SoFlo Banned 217 Rep 2,669 Posts Drives: E90 335i Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Naples, FL iTrader: (9)	Still no reply from Cobb.
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01-18-2012, 08:37 PM	#66
E90SoFlo Banned 217 Rep 2,669 Posts Drives: E90 335i Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Naples, FL iTrader: (9)	I haven't changed anything but now instead of throwing the P30FF I'm getting P2DED \| P2AAF \| P30FC WTF
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