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      11-30-2011, 10:36 PM   #45
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I like Cobb for its smoothness and driveability. Also the ease of installing and uninstalling. But I'm all about power so IMO, Cobb does not shine in that category.

I never said it was about me. I just said that I wasnt impressed.
Well once the race maps come out, that demerit goes out the window. What's wrong with the tune otherwise?
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      11-30-2011, 10:40 PM   #46
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Thanks for all the input...This is great! I've been on stage1 for about 2 months now and still love it. Sounds like stage2+ is gonna knock my socks off!!!!!
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      11-30-2011, 10:44 PM   #47
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Well I'll dyno soon. I just bought a jb3 I'm upgrading to jb4. I'll dyno both tunes on the same car on the same dyno on the same day and see what happens. I LOVE Cobb stage 2+ FBO. the car rips. Can't wait to try out the jb4 too. Meth is next after that.
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I like Cobb for its smoothness and driveability. Also the ease of installing and uninstalling. But I'm all about power so IMO, Cobb does not shine in that category.

I never said it was about me. I just said that I wasnt impressed.
I don't understand though. Unless you're talking about meth injection, then the piggy won't be any stronger...
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I don't understand though. Unless you're talking about meth injection, then the piggy won't be any stronger...
On pump, Stage2+FMIC is probably the strongest and most consistent. On meth, it remains to be seen if they can get any more real-world power out of it.
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Well once the race maps come out, that demerit goes out the window. What's wrong with the tune otherwise?
There's nothing wrong with tune. I just had high expectations for Cobb. Don't get me wrong, I've tried a lot of tunes already and the Cobb tune is very nice.
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I don't understand though. Unless you're talking about meth injection, then the piggy won't be any stronger...
I'm just not feeling it. It might be different for you guys.
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Stage 2+ is a monster...it definetly feels stronger than the piggyback I had before
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Has anybody on the stage 2 agressive tune hit the drag strip yet? What are the average results?
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I tried last Friday but they closed it for winter. Best I can do is dyno. I'll be heading to the dyno with my Cobb and jb4 in a couple of weeks.


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      12-01-2011, 09:44 PM   #54
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Has anybody on the stage 2 agressive tune hit the drag strip yet? What are the average results?
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I tried last Friday but they closed it for winter. Best I can do is dyno. I'll be heading to the dyno with my Cobb and jb4 in a couple of weeks.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=594179
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Has anybody on the stage 2 agressive tune hit the drag strip yet? What are the average results?
Average? I'd say you'd be hitting around 12.8 or so with a trap of 114. That's not the best results by far... but more in line with the average I've seen people hit depending on mods
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Average? I'd say you'd be hitting around 12.8 or so with a trap of 114. That's not the best results by far... but more in line with the average I've seen people hit depending on mods
funny, thats almost exactly what I did when using the cobb to log the 1/4 mile. 12.9 at 114.5 with a 2.3 sec 60 ft. But that was on stage 2+ sport. I know its not a real timeslip but still cant be that far off.
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*Disclaimer: Results not typical.*

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*Disclaimer: Results not typical.*

Why would those results not be typical?
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Why would those results not be typical?
I don't know. I'm only 1 mph off that time myself in a heavier car...
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I give up with these tunes!I think there all equal with different benefits.G.i joe trapped 119 mph in almost fbo jb4 map 2 straight pump gas.
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      12-02-2011, 11:50 AM   #61
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Here is my result in a Cobb stg2+ (FBO) 535i (heavier then the 335):

http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-535i-Timeslip-23579.html

12.73 @ 109.27
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Why would those results not be typical?
Unless you are at Atco, you typically won't see those kinds of results. Go to your local track and see for yourself.
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By typical you mean some people can drive and others cant? We all cant be winners
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By typical you mean some people can drive and others cant? We all cant be winners
Even with a bad driver, trap speeds will be consistent. When you post a link of clap trapping 118 (which is impressive), you are sending out the message that other cobb users will trap that much on their track which is simply not true. Here in Florida which is sea level as well, no cobb stage 2 has gone over 115mph and I doubt most will do it in less than ideal conditions.
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How is that any different than Sikh posting his 122 mph run? It's hard to match his time but definitely doable. Or Hotrod. Should every fast run be disqualified because others may struggle to perform as well?

Florida is much more humid than the NE. And warmer too. I'm trapping in the high 116's but I know there's more in the car if I go back when it's colder. And my buddy has hit 117. We're gonna have a VBOX next time we go out to see how the track timer compares.
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I don't know. I'm only 1 mph off that time myself in a heavier car...
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Even with a bad driver, trap speeds will be consistent. When you post a link of clap trapping 118 (which is impressive), you are sending out the message that other cobb users will trap that much on their track which is simply not true. Here in Florida which is sea level as well, no cobb stage 2 has gone over 115mph and I doubt most will do it in less than ideal conditions.
I disagree entirely. A bad driver can still mess up trap speeds. Mis shifting gears, bad launches, wheel spin, poor throttle modulation all contribute to trap speed and ET.

When I post a link I'm not sending any message to anyone. It is up to the end user to interpret the data presented. In case you didnt know, track times and results of any race all depend on "conditions" and a majority of the time there is always something different between one guy and the next.

As Brey mentioned above he is 1 MPH off in a heavier car in a different state. By no accident he has different conditions. Not only the state hes driving in, but his collection of mods, tires, suspension, and he has an E92 Vs a 135i. We also dont know his conditions on the track, DA, humidity, ambient temps, ETC.

Do you know anyone in florida that has the exact same mods to the "T", with the same driver weight, tire, suspension, and driving capabilities? Was the DA the same? And the humidity? Ambient temperature? track prep? Mileage on the vehicle? Same amount of gas in the tank?

I think I rest my case. The results are as typical as the next guy but conditions will alter the final results.
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