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      02-17-2012, 12:53 PM   #45
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Had the exact same experience on Hankook v12s, when it gets to 50 degree F or below those tires were scary. As you said no traction in 3rd. Just switched to PSS at twice the price but it feels like I am getting twice the traction, no more 3rd gear spinning and 2nd gear hooks up very nicely. I should not have waited so long to try them. But going from $180 a tire to $350 took me awhile to choke down.
Good to know. The NT05 for my size are about $275 a tire. I hear great things about those. With a 30 sidewall its just hard to hook up with no flex. I knew the PSS were good but man they just want too much, especially for a tire that may lest 10K miles?

Sometimes I want to go back to stock wheels so I can get some sidewall back but stock wheel are boring
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Good to know. The NT05 for my size are about $275 a tire. I hear great things about those. With a 30 sidewall its just hard to hook up with no flex. I knew the PSS were good but man they just want too much, especially for a tire that may lest 10K miles?

Sometimes I want to go back to stock wheels so I can get some sidewall back but stock wheel are boring
I've been a Nitto Fanboy for a while, running NTO1s for track/NTO5s for street for a long time, but after feeling their grip and performance of the Super Sports over the past year, this summer I bought a set for daily driving.

The Super Sports have a 300 wear rating, but to me they feel as though they have similar grip as the NT05. In theory, they *should* last a bit longer than the NT05s. For me, most summers I'd get a full summer (8 months/6,000 miles) out of a set of NT05s before they were shot...so if the PSS last 2 summers that'd be insane.

Michelin warranties Tread wear for 30,000 miles for square setups, and 15,000 if the tires are staggered. Do I expect these tires to last me 15,000 miles? Absolutely not. But if they last me 10,000 summer miles, I would be more than satisfied. I've pondered trying to 'file a claim' with Michelin when the tires wear out sooner than 15k, but I'm not sure it'd be worth the headache.

That said, sometimes it actually requires a drag radial to grip under 500tq acceleration...so then you just have to pay to play I guess.
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      02-17-2012, 01:09 PM   #47
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They guaranteed them for 30k miles, but I'm sure that is pro-rated. I would be really happy to get that mileage out of them for sure. If I only get 10k miles out of them I would be bummed.

Edit: Did not realize they bumped it (mileage) down for staggered. But oh well I am going to enjoy them this summer and finally going to get to the dragstrip for a run with my new found traction.
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I've been a Nitto Fanboy for a while, running NTO1s for track/NTO5s for street for a long time, but after feeling their grip and performance of the Super Sports over the past year, this summer I bought a set for daily driving.

The Super Sports have a 300 wear rating, but to me they feel as though they have similar grip as the NT05.
But NT05 is not a drag radial. It's just a high performance summer tire. I am sure the Michelin PSS can even outperform it.

But The NT05R is the tire in question here. It's a whole other beast.
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But NT05 is not a drag radial. It's just a high performance summer tire. I am sure the Michelin PSS can even outperform it.

But The NT05R is the tire in question here. It's a whole other beast.
Huh? I was replying to Jeff's post...referring to NT05 and Super sports...and clearly stated they are not drag radials.

Regarding the Super Sports outperforming the NT05s, that's not an easy feat...but for a 300 treadwear they do a great job.
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      02-18-2012, 01:51 AM   #50
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I don't daily drive them but these are my DRs. I just can't afford to go through these all the time.

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tire size, wheel size, offset please.
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Tire size 275 40 17
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Will Nitto NT555r 245/45/17 fit a rim thats 17 x 8?
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Will Nitto NT555r 245/45/17 fit a rim thats 17 x 8?
I would say yes, it should but I don't know for a fact. 245 should be around 9.62" wide. I'm fitting a 285 Nitto nt555r on a 9.5" rim which is about the same as you would be doing. I've heard of people fitting the 285 on a 9" rim, so I'd say you are probably OK.

Ask tscdennab or hotrod, both of them are using/have used the Nitto 245/45/17 I believe.
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I would say yes, it should but I don't know for a fact. 245 should be around 9.62" wide. I'm fitting a 285 Nitto nt555r on a 9.5" rim which is about the same as you would be doing. I've heard of people fitting the 285 on a 9" rim, so I'd say you are probably OK.

Ask tscdennab or hotrod, both of them are using/have used the Nitto 245/45/17 I believe.
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      02-19-2012, 11:19 AM   #56
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Tire size 275 40 17
Rim 17" unknown offset
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That's a really clean looking set up you have there. Very nice.
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275/40/17
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Yep perfect stance....
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Speaking of drag radials....as far as a car that's more daily driver than drag car, what are some good sticky tires that would do good at the track, but also on the highway?

I know Nitto has a lot of different offerings for 18" wheels. Is there a drag radial that will also handle well on curvy roads? I know...it's a lot to ask out of a tire.

I've got Michelin Pilots on my car now, but the rears are shot.....it spins them up to easy. Looking for something that's more grippy in a straight line, but also would work on a daily driver.
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I've never encountered a street tire that can hold a tuned N54/N55. I had Nitto Invos, Pilot Super Sports and several other "sticky" tires and they all spin in 1st, 2nd, and sometimes 3rd (my car makes about 450whp).

You can get an R compound tire like the Toyo R888's that will handle well and get good grip but don't expect them to last long - or hook like a true drag radial.
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I think the main problem is a suspension geometry, not the tires. These things aren't designed to transfer weight to the rear end, they are made to handle corners.
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