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      03-14-2012, 05:16 PM   #45
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Just do a full throttle pull in say, 3rd gear. With all the aggressive maps, meth injector dc% climbs up to 100% DC at full boost above 4000rpm. So look at the flow value when this occurs. It will be pretty easy to see. Then take that value, subtract a couple of points and use that for the injection mode.

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Great thank u! That means I did it right and just happened to chose the correct meth flow number. I had input 30 and did my logs last nite and meth injection flow happened to be around 31-32. I just thought it was hitting that target b/c I had input 30...lol
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Great thank u! That means I did it right and just happened to chose the correct meth flow number. I had input 30 and did my logs last nite and meth injection flow happened to be around 31-32. I just thought it was hitting that target b/c I had input 30...lol
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i wonder why my first 2 pulls are usually weak?
at WOT, meth DC gets to 100, but the meth flow only gets to 25 first, then whimper to 20.
second pull would be better.
by third pull i get 28 (my max) in a flat consistent line (so i know i'm not sucking air).

any guesses?
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i wonder why my first 2 pulls are usually weak?
at WOT, meth DC gets to 100, but the meth flow only gets to 25 first, then whimper to 20.
second pull would be better.
by third pull i get 28 (my max) in a flat consistent line (so i know i'm not sucking air).

any guesses?
Try tightening the collars on both sides of the inline filter.
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Try tightening the collars on both sides of the inline filter.
That fixed it for me. Is there an upgrade we can do so that it doesn't come loose intermittantly?
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That fixed it for me. Is there an upgrade we can do so that it doesn't come loose intermittantly?
You really shouldn't need to tighten it more than once or twice. Is it something that you need to do regularly?
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hm, both ends of my filter were a little loose. i know I've tightened them before, but i didn't want to over tighten a piece of plastic so i didn't over do it. i tighten them again but i haven't done more logs. does it mean that I'm sucking air when the filter is loose? how come it stop after a couple pulls?
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Hmm, uploaded the maps, running 10/90 - 15/85 mix of meth (1 liter of distilled water and the rest methanol in windshield washer tank (~5 liters).

Start boost at 80%, ignition correction 0%, Methanol injection is at 27, everything else stock.
Getting 19.5 pounds of boost? Is that normal? Not that I complain On old maps I was getting 18.5 with 10% ignition correction.

Also found a bug, second time it gets me.
If I'm in map 4 and I flash the new firmware in Procede, follow the manual, reset everything, etc. At the end if I start the car I get 5 CEL flashes which means "wrong map". Last time it took me 2 hours of flashing maps and reinstalling everything, this time I remembered on 2nd reflash.
If you flash in map 4 the user settings are reset and the meth map is disabled on default settings but if you start the car it still shows map that it's map 4. I'm guessing Procede freaks out and throws the "wrong map" error. If you switch to 3 and then try back to 4 it won't switch anymore and there's no more CEL flashing.
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from the PWM install instructions:

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If, during this process, the SES light starts flashing the Overflow Meth fault (5 flashes), this is because you turned on Meth (by setting injection mode to 25) BEFORE setting Methanol Mode to 1. This is of no concern.
The user settings will be reset either way when flashing a new firmware and map
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I got leanrun fault (SES flash one time every 5 sec)this morning, how to solve the trouble?
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i just watched that video 10 times in a row
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i got the same fault the other day, curious how to fix as well



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I got leanrun fault (SES flash one time every 5 sec)this morning, how to solve the trouble?
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You really shouldn't need to tighten it more than once or twice. Is it something that you need to do regularly?
Hey Shiv not really...I guess it took about 8 months from initial installation before it loosened up itself. Just curious if there is another option for something that will never come loose on its own.
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Hmm, uploaded the maps, running 10/90 - 15/85 mix of meth (1 liter of distilled water and the rest methanol in windshield washer tank (~5 liters).

Start boost at 80%, ignition correction 0%, Methanol injection is at 27, everything else stock.
Getting 19.5 pounds of boost? Is that normal? Not that I complain On old maps I was getting 18.5 with 10% ignition correction.
I get around 19.5 psi tapering down to 15-16psi at redline with 67 start boost so yes I guess that's normal. What are you boosting at redline?

Be careful with that high of a meth concentration in you windshield washer tank. I ran 70/30 meth/water ratio for about 3 months and then the meth started leaking out of my tank. All the rubber grommets and the washer pump failed. And my car is rather new (2010).
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Hey Shiv not really...I guess it took about 8 months from initial installation before it loosened up itself. Just curious if there is another option for something that will never come loose on its own.
After the first re-tighten, it really shouldn't come loose again. That said, we are looking into other options.
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I got leanrun fault (SES flash one time every 5 sec)this morning, how to solve the trouble?
I just checked the beta maps I noticed that the default leanrun fault settings could possibly result in a false trigger in some cars. So I just made that change and posted up new maps (3-17). Same firmware as the 3-13 maps so all you would need to do is upload the map file and other else.

OR by using the latest User Software Interface (v5.34), you can just go into the Leanrun fault set-up menu (Digital Outputs->Misc) and set the last value to 100. This will effectively disable this feature. This is the ONLY change I made between the 3-13 and 3-17 maps. Sorry for the inconvenience


I'll start another thread next week showing users how to dial this feature in.
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I just checked the beta maps I noticed that the default leanrun fault settings could possibly result in a false trigger in some cars. So I just made that change and posted up new maps (3-17). Same firmware as the 3-13 maps so all you would need to do is upload the map file and other else.

OR by using the latest User Software Interface (v5.34), you can just go into the Leanrun fault set-up menu (Digital Outputs->Misc) and set the last value to 100. This will effectively disable this feature. This is the ONLY change I made between the 3-13 and 3-17 maps. Sorry for the inconvenience


I'll start another thread next week showing users how to dial this feature in.
So I just need to change the value without reloading the new 3-17 map, right?
Thanks.
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Did a data log of the new 3-13 maps last night....how does it look? I've also attached the log file.

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Hmm, uploaded the maps, running 10/90 - 15/85 mix of meth (1 liter of distilled water and the rest methanol in windshield washer tank (~5 liters).

Start boost at 80%, ignition correction 0%, Methanol injection is at 27, everything else stock.
Getting 19.5 pounds of boost? Is that normal? Not that I complain On old maps I was getting 18.5 with 10% ignition correction.
I get around 19.5 psi tapering down to 15-16psi at redline with 67 start boost so yes I guess that's normal. What are you boosting at redline?

Be careful with that high of a meth concentration in you windshield washer tank. I ran 70/30 meth/water ratio for about 3 months and then the meth started leaking out of my tank. All the rubber grommets and the washer pump failed. And my car is rather new (2010).
This has me a little paranoid now. I know meth is corrosive to rubber/certain plastics but does that mean its eating through my brand new cars' rubbers and I'll have to replace my washer pump etc in 3 months? How many other guys use 70/30 mix and has had issues with their rubbers corrode quickly? I don't use meth that much as I only drive it on the weekends mostly so my car sits at the airport with 70/30 mix all week...
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This has me a little paranoid now. I know meth is corrosive to rubber/certain plastics but does that mean its eating through my brand new cars' rubbers and I'll have to replace my washer pump etc in 3 months? How many other guys use 70/30 mix and has had issues with their rubbers corrode quickly? I don't use meth that much as I only drive it on the weekends mostly so my car sits at the airport with 70/30 mix all week...
I'm in the same boat. I've run 70/30 in my tank since December. I would think Shiv would've considered this though.
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Glycol from having run nonBMW washer fluid causes leaking and clogging issues, not high meth content. The glycol coats the rubber grommet around the ww pump, hindering it seal with the tank.
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