New Procede Beta Maps and Throttle Calibration How To

palomino0527 · 04-25-2012, 05:03 AM

i was talking about using vinshu products. sorry i thought it was part of thread

enrita · 04-25-2012, 05:07 AM

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i was talking about using vinshu products. sorry i thought it was part of thread

didnt you just order a cobb?

palomino0527 · 04-25-2012, 05:09 AM

no i was thinking of getting it but i heard you cant use meth with it. so not yet im getting info from different tuners see whats the best

RevC · 04-25-2012, 09:19 PM

Shiv, you hit out of the park with this map, running stage 2 with dci, fmic and its solid. i reset the throttle adaptations and will try the method outlined in the first post and see if it can get even better, the best part about this map is how that rough idle i had is gone. now that i know how to data log, ill post some up for you and others to have a look.

The Ghost · 04-26-2012, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RevC

Shiv, you hit out of the park with this map, running stage 2 with dci, fmic and its solid. i reset the throttle adaptations and will try the method outlined in the first post and see if it can get even better, the best part about this map is how that rough idle i had is gone. now that i know how to data log, ill post some up for you and others to have a look.

What OL fueling settings are you running and what does your log look like (particularly AFR and fuel trims)?

franzzz · 04-26-2012, 08:12 AM

This is my first log of stage 1 map 4_23 :

I'm curious about the Max bost during a full trottle :

Max Psi 15 in the midrange

It's correct ?

enrita · 04-26-2012, 08:24 AM

you should try to plot only 3rd-4th gear and add CAN actual ignition advance , Fuel trims bank 1 and 2 (in the same line) and AFR 1 and 2 (in the same line).

franzzz · 04-26-2012, 09:11 AM

ok next step i try to make a new log Enrita
Meanwhile......

franzzz · 04-26-2012, 02:55 PM

Another log :
335i AT Stage 1 map 4_23

3 gear 1500_7000 revs

For my point of view the fuel trims are too high

OpenFlash · 04-26-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by franzzz

Another log :
335i AT Stage 1 map 4_23

3 gear 1500_7000 revs

For my point of view the fuel trims are too high

Franzz- just raise the open loop fuel setting from the default value of 75% to say 85% and try again. By the time we make these maps non-beta, we hope to have it auto adjust.

BADS335 · 04-26-2012, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Make sure you are seeing a normal roadspeed signal in your Procede logs. What you are describing shouldnt happen based upon how the logic was written. Sounds like you are false triggering the 2-step. Which should only be active if roadspeed is 0mph.

I am reading road speed properly.

TT3 iN NyC · 04-26-2012, 10:24 PM

I got 72 min and 424 max, 6AT.

OpenFlash · 04-26-2012, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TT3 iN NyC

I got 72 min and 424 max, 6AT.

That sounds right.

OpenFlash · 04-26-2012, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BADS335

I am reading road speed properly.

If NLS is interfering with your normal driving, just turn it off. But first try calibrating throttle and see if that is the cause because ignition is only cut when throttle >80% and clutch is depressed. I don't see how those two conditions can occur accidentally/unintentionally unless you are clutching in before you let off the throttle.

drewmeyer87 · 04-27-2012, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TT3 iN NyC

I got 72 min and 424 max, 6AT.

Funny, same values I got. I noticed I would get between 420-424 depending on a tiny bit of foot pressure near the kickdown.

I decided to leave it at 422, since I'd like to ensure 100% is achievable on everyday driving without me having to modulate foot pressure to get to 100%.

franzzz · 04-27-2012, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Franzz- just raise the open loop fuel setting from the default value of 75% to say 85% and try again. By the time we make these maps non-beta, we hope to have it auto adjust.

Tnx
This is new log with new settings

pinto · 04-27-2012, 05:31 AM

Here are a new log with the last firmware. Same setup as before stage 3 map 2 sets for methanol (i don't use it, i use E85 blend instead):

4th to 6th (280km/h)

Papajim · 04-27-2012, 06:32 AM

Hey Shiv!

Could/Should we calibrate throttle position also with 3-17 maps?

Does firmware v.111, and maps 3-17 support such calibration?

Thanks

TT3 iN NyC · 04-27-2012, 06:46 AM

[QUOTE=drewmeyer87]

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Originally Posted by TT3 iN NyC

I got 72 min and 424 max, 6AT.

Funny, same values I got. I noticed I would get between 420-424 depending on a tiny bit of foot pressure near the kickdown.

I decided to leave it at 422, since I'd like to ensure 100% is achievable on everyday driving without me having to modulate foot pressure to get to 100%.

Mmhmm. Takes makes good sense.

I did it a few times and it always maxed between 421 and 424. Can't wait to try it out later today

secretsquirrel · 04-27-2012, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by franzzz

Tnx
This is new log with new settings

You should take road speed off your log and put CAN actual ignition advance. Its by far the most important value to log.

pits200 · 04-27-2012, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by franzzz

Tnx
This is new log with new settings

What stage are you using, 1-2-3?

enrita · 04-27-2012, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by pits200

What stage are you using, 1-2-3?

he is running stage 1

04-25-2012, 05:03 AM	#45
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franzzz Captain 144 Rep 932 Posts Drives: BMW M4 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: ITALY iTrader: (0)	This is my first log of stage 1 map 4_23 : I'm curious about the Max bost during a full trottle : Max Psi 15 in the midrange It's correct ? __________________ BMW F82 M4 Black MHD CS Map - GTS DKG - Navi -Performance Brake RSL1 Pads - USB - DivX-DVD - Bluetooth - VoiceControl - Connect - Apps - Online - H&K - TrafficInfo - SpLimInfo - WhiteMerino- PDC - Cam - Adaptive Led - Antitheft - CP Steering- Performance ST - Adaptive CP Setup - GarageDoorOpen - Pipercross - Stock Exhaust - Mdrivers Pack - 437M Wheels
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enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	you should try to plot only 3rd-4th gear and add CAN actual ignition advance , Fuel trims bank 1 and 2 (in the same line) and AFR 1 and 2 (in the same line). __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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04-26-2012, 09:11 AM	#52
franzzz Captain 144 Rep 932 Posts Drives: BMW M4 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: ITALY iTrader: (0)	ok next step i try to make a new log Enrita Meanwhile...... __________________ BMW F82 M4 Black MHD CS Map - GTS DKG - Navi -Performance Brake RSL1 Pads - USB - DivX-DVD - Bluetooth - VoiceControl - Connect - Apps - Online - H&K - TrafficInfo - SpLimInfo - WhiteMerino- PDC - Cam - Adaptive Led - Antitheft - CP Steering- Performance ST - Adaptive CP Setup - GarageDoorOpen - Pipercross - Stock Exhaust - Mdrivers Pack - 437M Wheels Last edited by franzzz; 04-26-2012 at 10:17 AM..
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franzzz Captain 144 Rep 932 Posts Drives: BMW M4 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: ITALY iTrader: (0)	Another log : 335i AT Stage 1 map 4_23 3 gear 1500_7000 revs For my point of view the fuel trims are too high __________________ BMW F82 M4 Black MHD CS Map - GTS DKG - Navi -Performance Brake RSL1 Pads - USB - DivX-DVD - Bluetooth - VoiceControl - Connect - Apps - Online - H&K - TrafficInfo - SpLimInfo - WhiteMerino- PDC - Cam - Adaptive Led - Antitheft - CP Steering- Performance ST - Adaptive CP Setup - GarageDoorOpen - Pipercross - Stock Exhaust - Mdrivers Pack - 437M Wheels
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TT3 iN NyC Colonel 249 Rep 2,567 Posts Drives: F80 M3CS Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NYC iTrader: (9)	I got 72 min and 424 max, 6AT. __________________ 07 e92 335i - Retired 18 F80 M3CS - Retired 21 G20 330i M-Sport - Current
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pinto Private 4 Rep 71 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: France iTrader: (0)	Here are a new log with the last firmware. Same setup as before stage 3 map 2 sets for methanol (i don't use it, i use E85 blend instead): 4th to 6th (280km/h)
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Papajim Private 0 Rep 66 Posts Drives: E90 335i '07 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Greece/Athens iTrader: (0)	Hey Shiv! Could/Should we calibrate throttle position also with 3-17 maps? Does firmware v.111, and maps 3-17 support such calibration? Thanks
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