[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by ///ADMAN

Hi, Rob. Nice to meet you. Allow me to address your statements first, since I found those to be the most humorous.



Clearly you didn't even watch the videos, so I don't know why you felt the need to jump on this bandwagon.



Everything is installed correctly and the settings were right for the integrated unit - exactly as shipped. BMS admits this is not right for the 335is. I have since cut the doides and uploaded the 18.HEX to run the correct maps for 335is.

False advertising? Yes. They should not be selling the integrated unit for the 335is. The settings are wrong. The AFR values are not ZERO. And, prolonged running on either MAP1 or MAP5 could do serious damage to the vehicle.

Lastly, I do have a $15.00 USB cable for my $70,000.00 car. And, it's a good thing I do. Otherwise, I might be sitting in the service bay at BMW.


And that, my friends, is why I'm a little more than pissed.

Why is running on map 1 or 5 on a 335is with the wrong settings (low boost with rich air/fuel ratios) going to do any damage to your vehicle other than slowing it down? In the video your speedo was not moving, were you still in command mode? It runs factory boost levels in command mode. Most importantly are you any closer to resolving your issues so you can delete that false video?

Mike

[Lifted07Duramax]

I dont care about the bickering I just want to know what the resolution was to the problem

[abistro]

This thread is epic, I like the comment and agree. If I'm spending 70k on a car, I'd just go with the M3 or Dinan upgrade.

[robc1976]

Originally Posted by US///M3

Quit bickering, you two. Lol

not bickering lol....May a bit. I was just stating the obvious.

[robc1976]

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Why is running on map 1 or 5 on a 335is with the wrong settings (low boost with rich air/fuel ratios) going to do any damage to your vehicle other than slowing it down? In the video your speedo was not moving, were you still in command mode? It runs factory boost levels in command mode. Most importantly are you any closer to resolving your issues so you can delete that false video?

Mike

+1

[JC888]

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Why is running on map 1 or 5 on a 335is with the wrong settings (low boost with rich air/fuel ratios) going to do any damage to your vehicle other than slowing it down? In the video your speedo was not moving, were you still in command mode? It runs factory boost levels in command mode. Most importantly are you any closer to resolving your issues so you can delete that false video?

Mike

He did get out of command mod in map 1 as you can see that his tach drop from 1k to about 600rpm. Yet his speedo isn't working while his tach was, during the run. Something is definitely not right... w/ install or a bad unit? \

Other than that, the vid wasn't all the helpful.

[///ADMAN]

Originally Posted by 09BMW335i

Because I want to...Why would you spend 70k put every options known to BMW on your 335is and not just go to a M3 for around the same price? and yes i just looked up the prices and did the options.....

Because, everyone knows a stock 335is will smoke a stock M3 off the line.

335is: 320hp/370tq @ 4000lbs.
M3: 414hp/295tq @ 4200lbs.

And then, compare convertible prices. They are NOT the same.
The M3 that I spec'd came in at $90K with tax & delivery.

[///ADMAN]

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Most importantly are you any closer to resolving your issues so you can delete that false video?

Mike

What FALSE VIDEO??? That's why I posted it...


Me: Hi, Mike. I have a 2013 BMW 335is. I want to upgrade it with a JB4.
You: Okay. Buy our JB4-G5 unit. It's PnP. You'll be amazed by the increase!

Me: Should I do Integrated or ISO. I hear ISO is still in BETA.
You: Yes, ISO is still in BETA. I'd install the Integrated. You'll be amazed by the increase!

Me: Do I need to do anything? There is all this talk about cutting diodes, etc.
You: Nope. There's only one for N54. Just install and go. You'll be amazed by the increase!

Me: Okay. I'll give it a try over the Dinan. 100hp for $500. Payment sent. JB4-G5 received.
You: Congrats. You'll be amazed by the increase!

Me: I installed the unit. But, it doesn't seem any faster. Did you send me the right one for 335is?
You: Yep. It's integrated. It does everything. Try MAP5 instead.

Me: Okay, I did several WOT. Still doesn't feel faster. Feels slower actually.
You: Hmp. That's funny. Try uploading 18.hex and/or changing all AFR to ZERO

Me: I'm not running ISO. You sent me Integrated. Why is it not faster?
You: I don't know. It should be. Can you send me logs or video or something?

Me: Okay. Here you go. "FALSE VIDEO" posted. Awaiting your reply...

[TXWatchGuy]

Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory

Agree even with plug & play there are things you can do especially with access to fuel grades better that 91 octane. Before I was experimenting with E85 I ran a 93/100 mix for 95 octane. I was running the fixed Map 6 with +1 to 1.5 psi across the board generating very good logs with no troublesome issues

Got involved with E85 because the 100 octane station is a 40 mile round trip over to Cary from Raleigh.

Did you ever try running avgas? It looks as though you have access to an airport. lol... I guess compared to E85 the price doesn't make sense any more, but I remember a lot of guys used to run it in the early/mid 2,000's.

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by ///ADMAN

What FALSE VIDEO??? That's why I posted it...


Me: Hi, Mike. I have a 2013 BMW 335is. I want to upgrade it with a JB4.
You: Okay. Buy our JB4-G5 unit. It's PnP. You'll be amazed by the increase!

Me: Should I do Integrated or ISO. I hear ISO is still in BETA.
You: Yes, ISO is still in BETA. I'd install the Integrated. You'll be amazed by the increase!

Me: Do I need to do anything? There is all this talk about cutting diodes, etc.
You: Nope. There's only one for N54. Just install and go. You'll be amazed by the increase!

Me: Okay. I'll give it a try over the Dinan. 100hp for $500. Payment sent. JB4-G5 received.
You: Congrats. You'll be amazed by the increase!

Me: I installed the unit. But, it doesn't seem any faster. Did you send me the right one for 335is?
You: Yep. It's integrated. It does everything. Try MAP5 instead.

Me: Okay, I did several WOT. Still doesn't feel faster. Feels slower actually.
You: Hmp. That's funny. Try uploading 18.hex and/or changing all AFR to ZERO

Me: I'm not running ISO. You sent me Integrated. Why is it not faster?
You: I don't know. It should be. Can you send me logs or video or something?

Me: Okay. Here you go. "FALSE VIDEO" posted. Awaiting your reply...

I assume the "you" in this conversation is me?

Mike

[BEAR-AvHistory]

Originally Posted by TXWatchGuy

Did you ever try running avgas? It looks as though you have access to an airport. lol... I guess compared to E85 the price doesn't make sense any more, but I remember a lot of guys used to run it in the early/mid 2,000's.

Its not really suitable for cars, has the octane, but the formulation is not correct its leaded Its also vapor resistant & could be a bitch to start when its cold.

[yoiko]

Love my Jb4 G5!! The only issue I had was because of user error.

[TXWatchGuy]

Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory

Its not really suitable for cars, has the octane, but the formulation is not correct its leaded Its also vapor resistant & could be a bitch to start when its cold.

Let's not get all caught up in details. lol... I do remember a lot of guys that were running it would only get about 5000 miles on a set of O2 sensors, but the Denso sensors held up a while longer. I hear it's not good for the cats either, but I didn't know anyone at the time that was actually running any.

[US///M3]

Instead of making this useless thread, the op could've just emailed Terry his malfunction, the guy is always eager to help his customers.

[cwarren]

Originally Posted by robc1976

totally agree, +2

+3 tons of people running this with very good results .
wonder why he is the only one that this thing doesn't work for

[BavarianDr]

Originally Posted by ///ADMAN

Well, this is the problem I'm having - going back and forth with Terry @ BMS.

I just wanted a PnP upgrade for my 2013 335is. Everyone told me to go with the JuiceBox. Simple easy power. But, that's not what I'm seeing on my 335is. I'm seeing nothing really. 0-62mph (100km) STOCK is actually faster.

If there was something I needed in order to make this thing work on MY particular vehicle (ie modifying the box, cutting doides, flashing the ISO, removing the melted enclosure, etc.) then they (BMS) should have told me that when I ordered the product.

As it stands right now, it is false advertising.

I understand where you are coming from, I was there too when I first got the JB4 G5. I was having ton of misfires and reduced power modes, and I still do. I was getting pretty frustrated as this is supposed to be plug and play right? but JB4 has evolved so much now that you have to read a ton on the n54tech website to understand how the system works but I didnt have all the time. I wanted plug and play just like you without problems yet I had many issues, However I just stuck with it, changed my spark plugs, and updated to G5 iso 18 and here is my dyno only 3 days after install. Stick with Terry and you will get things sorted out.

[BEAR-AvHistory]

Originally Posted by TXWatchGuy

Let's not get all caught up in details. lol... I do remember a lot of guys that were running it would only get about 5000 miles on a set of O2 sensors, but the Denso sensors held up a while longer. I hear it's not good for the cats either, but I didn't know anyone at the time that was actually running any.

I ran it in my 67 BB Stingray on Englishtown weekends Those engines were the opposite of what we have now & needed lead to lube the valve seats. The octane did not hurt either.

[Presidio335xi]

Originally Posted by ///ADMAN

What FALSE VIDEO??? That's why I posted it...


Me: Hi, Mike. I have a 2013 BMW 335is. I want to upgrade it with a JB4.
You: Okay. Buy our JB4-G5 unit. It's PnP. You'll be amazed by the increase!

Me: Should I do Integrated or ISO. I hear ISO is still in BETA.
You: Yes, ISO is still in BETA. I'd install the Integrated. You'll be amazed by the increase!

Me: Do I need to do anything? There is all this talk about cutting diodes, etc.
You: Nope. There's only one for N54. Just install and go. You'll be amazed by the increase!

Me: Okay. I'll give it a try over the Dinan. 100hp for $500. Payment sent. JB4-G5 received.
You: Congrats. You'll be amazed by the increase!

Me: I installed the unit. But, it doesn't seem any faster. Did you send me the right one for 335is?
You: Yep. It's integrated. It does everything. Try MAP5 instead.

Me: Okay, I did several WOT. Still doesn't feel faster. Feels slower actually.
You: Hmp. That's funny. Try uploading 18.hex and/or changing all AFR to ZERO

Me: I'm not running ISO. You sent me Integrated. Why is it not faster?
You: I don't know. It should be. Can you send me logs or video or something?

Me: Okay. Here you go. "FALSE VIDEO" posted. Awaiting your reply...

Mike is in sales. What is PnP for Mike and many members is still new and confusing to people who have never done it before. I feel your pain.

[Presidio335xi]

Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory

I ran it in my 67 BB Stingray on Englishtown weekends Those engines were the opposite of what we have now & needed lead to lube the valve seats. The octane did not hurt either.

sweet ride

[dfjaws]

Originally Posted by BavarianDr

Stick with Terry and you will get things sorted out.

This.

Any time I've had an issue (due to my being dumb, not the product) Terry has been 100% reliable. Most of the time I've emailed him I've had a response in <30 mins.

[BavarianDr]

Originally Posted by dfjaws

This.

Any time I've had an issue (due to my being dumb, not the product) Terry has been 100% reliable. Most of the time I've emailed him I've had a response in <30 mins.

Yes, that is true, however there are days where he is either busy and took long to get response but he has always responded

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by Presidio335xi

Mike is in sales. What is PnP for Mike and many members is still new and confusing to people who have never done it before. I feel your pain.

Thats true, but the bigger issue is the conversation he posted alluding to involve me never actually happened with me or anybody I know off, which is why I posted. Probably just an imaginary conversation he had.

Mike