[davyk31]

It sure is Edd.

[edd335]

id love to believe it, but i cant!

[davyk31]

A 330d Xdrive is something like 5.3 so 4.8 for a car with nearly another 60 bhp is totally feasible.

[ian_m]

mmm, i'll wait for the new alpina D3 and see if they do make a 3.0 derv

[dopper99]

Originally Posted by edd335

Im sorry but that fact sheet must be wrong, there is NO way that the 0-62 (4.8secs) is faster on an f30 335d than a 335i let alone a 435i

Why not?
The f30 335d has more power than a 335i and shed loads more torque. Coupled with xdrive and the new 8 speed box, this 0-62 figure is very believable (although primarily to do with the xdrive).
In fact watch this if you want to see xdrive in action (and prepared to be pissed off )
http://www.f30post.com/forums/showpo...1&postcount=81

I'd say the new M3/M4 has got it's work cut out trying to follow this!

[dopper99]

Anyone interested in a new f30 335d review, this guy has the first one on f30post http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=876909

[G82Dude]

Originally Posted by Aldur

...It's true that it has a twin exhaust pipe on one side on only rather than the previous of one on each side. This is due to emissions and keeping them down.

Really? Wouldn't have thought that would have been a big issue with a diesel? Doesn't seem to have worried the 3/435i (who's CO2 has dropped again) with two exhausts as per E9x? Strange...

[G82Dude]

Originally Posted by edd335

Im sorry but that fact sheet must be wrong, there is NO way that the 0-62 (4.8secs) is faster on an f30 335d than a 335i let alone a 435i

Don't forget the new 35d is really a 40d engine running 313HP...

[edd335]

Originally Posted by dopper99

Why not?
The f30 335d has more power than a 335i and shed loads more torque. Coupled with xdrive and the new 8 speed box, this 0-62 figure is very believable (although primarily to do with the xdrive).
In fact watch this if you want to see xdrive in action (and prepared to be pissed off )
http://www.f30post.com/forums/showpo...1&postcount=81

I'd say the new M3/M4 has got it's work cut out trying to follow this!

Would it not then be fair to assume that the 335i xDrive, when finally comes, will be faster than the 335d? Only making these assumptions upon the way BMW USUALLY does things....

Either way, nice specs!

[G82Dude]

Originally Posted by edd335

Would it not then be fair to assume that the 335i xDrive, when finally comes, will be faster than the 335d? Only making these assumptions upon the way BMW USUALLY does things....

Either way, nice specs!

35i is less HP and less torque than 35d - so doubt it - don't think there will be a 335i xDrive, either!

[davyk31]

The lack of twin exhausts is nothing to do with emissions and everything to do with keeping common parts to keep costs down. A 335d will be a low volume seller therefore having bespoke parts for it is expensive, keep all the parts as common as possible and thus place massive orders with suppliers.

[ian_m]

Originally Posted by dopper99

Why not?
The f30 335d has more power than a 335i and shed loads more torque. Coupled with xdrive and the new 8 speed box, this 0-62 figure is very believable (although primarily to do with the xdrive).
In fact watch this if you want to see xdrive in action (and prepared to be pissed off )
http://www.f30post.com/forums/showpo...1&postcount=81

I'd say the new M3/M4 has got it's work cut out trying to follow this!

these figures appear to be the new alpina d3 biturbo with 350 hp and not the bmw 313 hp variant

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...how-debut.html

[gangzoom]

Most powerful car in range (so far), no twin exhaust set up.....get it in SE trim (or what ever its called these days), take the badge off and it would be ultimate Q car.

Very nice

[mob17]

Originally Posted by dopper99

Anyone interested in a new f30 335d review, this guy has the first one on f30post http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=876909

Specs are great, but the car just doesn't look the part for me. The styling is not great, and the steering wheel is shocking. Rear looks ugly.

[G82Dude]

Originally Posted by davyk31

The lack of twin exhausts is nothing to do with emissions and everything to do with keeping common parts to keep costs down. A 335d will be a low volume seller therefore having bespoke parts for it is expensive, keep all the parts as common as possible and thus place massive orders with suppliers.

And what about the low(er) volume 3/435i WITH "wheel barrow" exhausts (no doubt sharable with the 3/435d)...?

[dopper99]

Originally Posted by ian_m

these figures appear to be the new alpina d3 biturbo with 350 hp and not the bmw 313 hp variant

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...how-debut.html

Not so.
It would appear the alpina d3 biturbo has the same 0-62 time then.

This is took from BMW's website on the F30 335d:

[Aldur]

Originally Posted by Dave_3

What ? ? The number of exhaust tips and their position has no relevant effect whatsoever to emissions.

Still not convinced with the new 335D. Will probably go 435i this time. Don't need 4x4, or like the "on stilts" look - the standard 435i already has massive wheel arch gaps. While purely a subjective/aesthetic/vanity thing, putting poverty spec exhausts on the 335D doesn't help either.

D.

I only quoted the "genius" product rep in BMW dealership. Allegedly the expert in BMW, and tbh, she should be if that's her employed job! Anyway, that's what I was told so I have passed it on :-)

There are plenty of new pics out now of the 335d x drive including on these forums and it looks good in X drive still. So no one needs to panic about it being on stilts :-)

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=876909

When I get more info from my research with dealer I'll post on here :-)

[Aldur]

Dealer came back to me and confirmed what most have been saying anyway.

The m sport x drive does come with non m sport suspension apparently. It comes with the standard suspension ( sport? )
However, the trick is to order the adaptive suspension and that rectifies the problem in sport and sport plus settings, stiffening it all up.
This suits me fine personally as it will be a slightly better ride in comfort mode for my back ( which is not great ) and it's hardly bad suspension let's be honest!
When I want to throw it around I put it in sport or sport plus and all fixed!

The car still looks great and not like it's on "stilts" in the photos i've seen and the benefit of having x drive for all weathers far out weighs 10 mm of ride height for me.

Exhaust answer confirmed that BMW stated it was to do with emissions. But who knows, maybe it is or maybe it's to do with generic parts and costs. Maybe a little of both. No idea. I can't have a pipe on each side so not going to worry about it :-)

Looking forward to my heavily specced 335d x drive with M performance pack in estoril blue :-)

[G82Dude]

Originally Posted by Aldur

Dealer came back to me and confirmed what most have been saying anyway.

The m sport x drive does come with non m sport suspension apparently. It comes with the standard suspension ( sport? )
However, the trick is to order the adaptive suspension and that rectifies the problem in sport and sport plus settings, stiffening it all up.
This suits me fine personally as it will be a slightly better ride in comfort mode for my back ( which is not great ) and it's hardly bad suspension let's be honest!
When I want to throw it around I put it in sport or sport plus and all fixed!

The car still looks great and not like it's on "stilts" in the photos i've seen and the benefit of having x drive for all weathers far out weighs 10 mm of ride height for me.

Exhaust answer confirmed that BMW stated it was to do with emissions. But who knows, maybe it is or maybe it's to do with generic parts and costs. Maybe a little of both. No idea. I can't have a pipe on each side so not going to worry about it :-)

Looking forward to my heavily specced 335d x drive with M performance pack in estoril blue :-)

They should put on the adaptive suspension in lieu of sports suspension in that case - or discount it appropriately. Or just engineer an xDrive car correctly. Audi don't seem to have a problem with 4WD and sports suspension on their S and RS models. Wake up BMW, get with the plan.

[Ajs_435d]

SUrely the 0-60 will be awesome because its 4wd better off the line.

[dopper99]

Originally Posted by ajs_335d

SUrely the 0-60 will be awesome because its 4wd better off the line.

It is awesome off the line. The grip is unreal from a standstill compared to my E90's especially in the wet.

[Observer1122]

I was looking at a couple of 335i m sport on the BMW used and approved site, I called one of the dealers to discuss figures. The thing above all else that really left me a little speechless was the residuals - the car was just over 30k and the value after 3yrs was £13400 . I then read a thread regarding the E46 M3 and value for money, i have never driven or even been in one, however I can say that for just a little of 9k its a lot of car for the money.