More OpenFlash Dynos (OTS Stg 0 and Stg 1 maps)

OpenFlash · 07-10-2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Transport3r

Thanks Shiv, my dealer basically doesn't want to do it because they would be liable if they mess something up. Only BMWNA can force them to according to them

Is there an easy way to check the version?

If you send me the ROM once you install the OpenFlash Tablet, I can provide you with an OTS map within a day or two. It's not hard for me to do that. What takes more time is writing the a whole XDF file for those who want to custom tune themselves.

OpenFlash · 07-10-2013, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by scottp999

Shiv, Interested in using openflash tablet to load the procede flash to my car for rb turbo pump gas + meth fueling benefits. Any issues using the tablet and procede flash if I have April 2007 BMW software, or will it work? Understand your prior comments, but just wondering will it load as-is and work, or is an update an absolute requirement? Thanks.

It will work without a problem. See my response to Transport3r above

Transport3r · 07-10-2013, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

If you send me the ROM once you install the OpenFlash Tablet, I can provide you with an OTS map within a day or two. It's not hard for me to do that. What takes more time is writing the a whole XDF file for those who want to custom tune themselves.

That's great news. Are you guys planning to fully support the older versions or just the newest versions of each model?

OpenFlash · 07-10-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Transport3r

That's great news. Are you guys planning to fully support the older versions or just the newest versions of each model?

All versions. But for the sake of my sanity I'm only releasing XDF files for IJEOS and I8AOS at launch since this covers 99% of people.

buster84 · 07-10-2013, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

All versions. But for the sake of my sanity I'm only releasing XDF files for IJEOS and I8AOS at launch since this covers 99% of people.

I was going to get the Jb4 G5 iso, but now im looking at this tablet first. I want to run meth eventually, but not in a hurry yet so ill wait on the jb4. This will be a good start then ill add the piggy back later if JB4 jumps in on it. If not i guess its proceed.

Question, I see that your located in the Bay, are you shipping it monday because you expect them to arrive monday or will you be getting them in on Friday? I want one and would like to drive to your shop and get it. Friday or Saturday would be Sweet if you happen to get them then.

3000GT MR · 07-10-2013, 04:22 PM

Shiv,
What has been your experience with 8k redlines? Does the n54 valvetrain handle it?

Transport3r · 07-10-2013, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 3000GT MR

Shiv,
What has been your experience with 8k redlines? Does the n54 valvetrain handle it?

Is that even worth it airflow wise? I'm sure on stock snails it's not..

akotten · 07-10-2013, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Transport3r

Is that even worth it airflow wise? I'm sure on stock snails it's not..

He's single turbo haha

buster84 · 07-10-2013, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Transport3r

Is that even worth it airflow wise? I'm sure on stock snails it's not..

Honestly if your taking the rpms up that high in order to maximize the flow and reduce the heat you would want to upgrade your cams.

Whats weird though is that ive yet to see any cams for our cars... Its like companies dont want to invest into bmw like they do Ford, Chevy ect... I wonder why. Ported heads and cams would make those stock turbos free up some heat and build alot more N/A power.

I'd rather spend 3k on some cams/ported heads than RB turbos. The sound of cams is utterly sexy.

This was my mustang, but i sold it to save for a 2010+ gt500. This video is a little old, i forgot to update it when i upgraded my supercharger to a T-trim and max boosted it to 600hp. I miss the sound of that car for sure! I wish i could break cams to the bmw. Btw, the compression ratio was only 8:5:1. You can even see the custom CRX intercooler lol.

3000GT MR · 07-10-2013, 05:38 PM

So far looking at all the upgraded turbo dyno graphs (single or twin) . There hasn't been a hint of airflow choking do to the head or valvetrains ability to flow. Bmw is known for their higher redlines but we have yet to see that on a force induction engine. So as a manufacture they have vast knowledge of airflow at higher rpms which Im sure they implement as common practice. Fuel is a different story.

JDrago1926 · 07-10-2013, 05:39 PM

Is I8AOS the latest software?

buster84 · 07-10-2013, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 3000GT MR

So far looking at all the upgraded turbo dyno graphs (single or twin) . There hasn't been a hint of airflow choking do to the head or valvetrains ability to flow. Bmw is known for their higher redlines but we have yet to see that on a force induction engine. So as a manufacture they have vast knowledge of airflow at higher rpms which Im sure they implement as common practice. Fuel is a different story.

Thats good to hear. I've never owned a bmw till I bought my 335i so im still learning alot about these cars. I'm sure cams and ported heads would still increase the power overall on the turbo cars. It just seems to me that with the current heads, cams they might not max out till 600hp or so. Are there any 335i bmw's running over 800+hp?? I could see analyzing those more to see if ported heads, or cams would help. Then again without manufactures making them its hard to say.

enrita · 07-10-2013, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JDrago1926

Is I8AOS the latest software?

no, its not a software, its a rom type. MSD80 siemens ECU has the I8AOS upp to early 2008 than went over to MSD81. There are many types just check cobb site.

Dmacc · 07-10-2013, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by buster84

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Originally Posted by Transport3r

Is that even worth it airflow wise? I'm sure on stock snails it's not..

Honestly if your taking the rpms up that high in order to maximize the flow and reduce the heat you would want to upgrade your cams.

Whats weird though is that ive yet to see any cams for our cars... Its like companies dont want to invest into bmw like they do Ford, Chevy ect... I wonder why. Ported heads and cams would make those stock turbos free up some heat and build alot more N/A power.

I'd rather spend 3k on some cams/ported heads than RB turbos. The sound of cams is utterly sexy.

This was my mustang, but i sold it to save for a 2010+ gt500. This video is a little old, i forgot to update it when i upgraded my supercharger to a T-trim and max boosted it to 600hp. I miss the sound of that car for sure! I wish i could break cams to the bmw. Btw, the compression ratio was only 8:5:1. You can even see the custom CRX intercooler lol.

There has been talk of Renntech developing cams for our platform, not entirely sure but I believe BuraQ is running the test model on his DCT.

buster84 · 07-10-2013, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmacc

There has been talk of Renntech developing cams for our platform, not entirely sure but I believe BuraQ is running the test model on his DCT.

Really... anyone have any info on this? I'd love to hear some sound clips on them as well as checkout the stats.

I can see the install being a pita though. If someone was to install cams they might as well get the heads ported since the labor to remove the head would be minimal since your already tearing it down lol.

OpenFlash · 07-10-2013, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 3000GT MR

Shiv,
What has been your experience with 8k redlines? Does the n54 valvetrain handle it?

I haven't tested that high yet. I've gone up to 7500rpm with the 6466 and it's held together. Still made peak power at 7200rpm though so I'm not sure if it's worth the risk with the stock head.

akotten · 07-10-2013, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I haven't tested that high yet. I've gone up to 7500rpm with the 6466 and it's held together. Still made peak power at 7200rpm though so I'm not sure if it's worth the risk with the stock head.

As in power dropped off after 7200? This may be territory for ported heads.

3000GT MR · 07-10-2013, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

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Originally Posted by 3000GT MR

Shiv,
What has been your experience with 8k redlines? Does the n54 valvetrain handle it?

I haven't tested that high yet. I've gone up to 7500rpm with the 6466 and it's held together. Still made peak power at 7200rpm though so I'm not sure if it's worth the risk with the stock head.

What was the peak power?

3000GT MR · 07-10-2013, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by akotten

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I haven't tested that high yet. I've gone up to 7500rpm with the 6466 and it's held together. Still made peak power at 7200rpm though so I'm not sure if it's worth the risk with the stock head.

As in power dropped off after 7200? This may be territory for ported heads.

I wouldn't think that quiet yet. If your peaking at 7200 that means you have some head room. Normally you'd see the trend start a little earlier almost like the turbos are running out of steam but it's really the heads ability to flow. If you keep raising boost and not making more power at the higher rpms that's a dead give away

Dcara · 07-11-2013, 01:22 PM

I thought I read somewhere that the table will only work with cars that have had their software updated in the last year and a half...
I have a 2007 335I that is bone stock and I have no idea what version of software is on there. Would I have to bring it in the have the software updated in order to use OpenFlash?

Thanks!

SillyGoose · 07-11-2013, 01:22 PM

Would be curious to know hp delta between FBO + e35 + meth jb4 and same w/ LPFP-equipped e100 + flash?

Also less carbon build-up I assume.

Transport3r · 07-11-2013, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Transport3r

Is there an easy way to find out which version I have?
04/07 build here that hasn't seen the dealer since 10/10...

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I just pulled this with inpa. looks like my 10/10 software is good to go!

Identification MSD80
hardware reference: 004 4DC0
Software reference: 004 4DC0I 8A0S

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3000GT MR Major 267 Rep 1,392 Posts Drives: 09 335i/3000gt vr4 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Sav GA iTrader: (6)	So far looking at all the upgraded turbo dyno graphs (single or twin) . There hasn't been a hint of airflow choking do to the head or valvetrains ability to flow. Bmw is known for their higher redlines but we have yet to see that on a force induction engine. So as a manufacture they have vast knowledge of airflow at higher rpms which Im sure they implement as common practice. Fuel is a different story. __________________ Have a single turbo and/or tired of burning up O2 sensors? Ask me about the new ADV O2 sensor retro kits! 335i 2010 e92 M-sport Mods: VM Top mount 6466, Aquamist HSF4 w/custom direct port. VRSF IC + Exhaust 335i 2009 e90 665RWHP VFF900 ST RIP .
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