Any real difference between all the charge pipes?

tc535i · 05-13-2014, 11:40 AM

isn't that a synapse bov? I've heard good things about them, you say they're known to fail?

Tiago@VRSF · 05-13-2014, 12:16 PM

That's a bootleg HKS. There's no name on it because it's a fake.

Synapse is a reputable brand, that is not a Synapse.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 05-13-2014, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tc535i

isn't that a synapse bov? I've heard good things about them, you say they're known to fail?

Synapse was good but as of lately they have had a high failure rate and many retailers including ourselves stopped selling them because of the high failure rate and the difficulty in getting replacements.

tc535i · 05-13-2014, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

That's a bootleg HKS. There's no name on it because it's a fake.

Synapse is a reputable brand, that is not a Synapse.

damn, and I always thought ecs sold decent products... guess I'll have to be more careful with them

Jhe · 06-05-2014, 01:16 PM

You can't beat ETS for the quality and price. And great customer service as a bonus.

tc535i · 06-05-2014, 01:18 PM

went with an ER pipe/Tial BOV, got a package deal with the ER intercooler at the same time

having some alignment issues tho, I think I need a bigger hump hose.

Wes335XI · 06-06-2014, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tc535i

went with an ER pipe/Tial BOV, got a package deal with the ER intercooler at the same time

having some alignment issues tho, I think I need a bigger hump hose.

Ditto, ER Pipe with dual meth bungs and Tial Q BOV. They plugged the 2nd bung for me, but as soon as I got the RB's, we tapped into the 2nd one. Well worth it.

vivanapoli806 · 06-06-2014, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

That's a bootleg HKS. There's no name on it because it's a fake.

Synapse is a reputable brand, that is not a Synapse.

Tiago does the black vrsf pipe come with a plugged meth bung already or do you need to do that yourself before install if ur not running meth ?

Tiago@VRSF · 06-06-2014, 07:46 AM

The meth bung comes pre-plugged as pictured

chillbil79 · 06-06-2014, 11:26 AM

My opinion

Stock until it breaks. Guys run high boost with stock cp dv 's

I know you want the bov but for little more $ you can get a great intercooler from 2 vendor in this thread and your car will be much happier.

Just my opinion though. Everyone likes and wants different things

tc535i · 06-06-2014, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chillbil79

My opinion

Stock until it breaks. Guys run high boost with stock cp dv 's

I know you want the bov but for little more $ you can get a great intercooler from 2 vendor in this thread and your car will be much happier.

Just my opinion though. Everyone likes and wants different things

Got a deal on cp, bov and fmic on the er special. Figured I may as well do it right.

davidwarren · 06-08-2014, 10:39 AM

hey, has anyone with an upgraded CP with DVs upgraded the worm gear clamps for t-clamps?

Jhe · 06-08-2014, 02:18 PM

I just installed the ETS with Tial Q BOV. I have know plans for meth in the future either, So I went the ETS route. Pipe and clamp quality is top notch and fit is spot on as well. On the lower side of pricing as well.

bdubz · 04-27-2015, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Ya you can buy that one, or the ER Charge Pipe. Both are great as they use the factory C-clip.

Mike

I have forge diverted valves and need to replace my charge pipe. I'm having a hard time deciding which one to go with. BMS or ER long version.
Are they basically the same and does either one offer a good fitment.
Never thought is have such a hard time deciding. Heard BMS has a great product busy ER is the elite. shoikd I just disregard price and get the ER.
Help is appreciated

335NJ · 04-27-2015, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bdubz

I have forge diverted valves and need to replace my charge pipe. I'm having a hard time deciding which one to go with. BMS or ER long version.
Are they basically the same and does either one offer a good fitment.
Never thought is have such a hard time deciding. Heard BMS has a great product busy ER is the elite. shoikd I just disregard price and get the ER.
Help is appreciated

I have the ER Long w/ Tial (bought from Mike@N54Tuning for the record), and love it. Dont over think it!

TheYuriPanda · 04-27-2015, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chefcg1

I would personally pressure test your system before deciding that you need aftermarket DV's or BOV. On my car I have tested my stock Dv's to 25psi with out leaking. To me don't fix what isn't broke....just my 2 cents.

Untill God forbid, it leaks, cracks ect. And your out a car for a week.

tc535i · 04-28-2015, 12:06 PM

still loving my er long w/Tial!

Game · 05-25-2015, 05:42 AM

Bumping this up.

Seems like the ER charge pipe seems to be the most popular. I just can't really figure out why when it's a third of the price more expensive than the VRSF CP when they all essentially do the same thing. Can anyone chime in?

Tiago@VRSF · 05-25-2015, 07:06 AM

They released theirs before we did but I wouldn't say it's the most popular, we sell a few hundred a year.

Both are made from the same material, both offer multiple bov/dv choices and both offer the same CNC OEM throttle body connection. The ER has a sharp 2.5" to 3" transition and they seem to upcharge for all the Inge we already offer. All our charge pipes are the "long" version, are coated winkle black and include meth bungs at no additional charge. We also machine the flange to accommodate a larger o-ring to produce a larger contact surface to prevent leaking at higher boost.

J. Dub · 10-15-2015, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

They released theirs before we did but I wouldn't say it's the most popular, we sell a few hundred a year.

Both are made from the same material, both offer multiple bov/dv choices and both offer the same CNC OEM throttle body connection. The ER has a sharp 2.5" to 3" transition and they seem to upcharge for all the Inge we already offer. All our charge pipes are the "long" version, are coated winkle black and include meth bungs at no additional charge. We also machine the flange to accommodate a larger o-ring to produce a larger contact surface to prevent leaking at higher boost.

Tiago@VRSF , can you get a BLACK HKS bov instead of the silver one you guys carry? Or should I order through one of your vendors on this site instead?

sk55 · 10-15-2015, 04:49 PM

AA i got one i think it has a meth bung... but i could be wrong its been a while.

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Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

ETS:
Connection: Clamp/Coupler to Throttle Body
Meth Bung: No
Finish: Wrinkle Black Only
BOV: Tial HKS Synapse
OEM DV: No factory DV option

Evolution Racewerks (ER):
Connection: Factory C Clip Style
Meth Bung: Yes 0, 1 or 2
Finish: Polished, Anodized Black or Brushed
BOV: Tial HKS, Synapse Flange Only
OEM DV: Yes factory style and optional Forge DV

VRSF:
Connection: Factory C Clip Style or Coupler/Clamp to Throttle Body
Meth Bung: Yes 1 Only
Finish: Black for C Clip / Polished for Coupler/Clamp Style
BOV: HKS Tial Only
OEM DV: Not yet, ETA Summer

Active Autowerke:
Connection: Factory C clip
Meth Bung: No
Finish: Black
BOV: AA BOV only
OEM DV: No

Agency Power:
Connection: Coupler Clamp to Throttle Body
Meth Bung: No
Finish: Black
BOV: Agency Power BOV Only
OEM DV: No

BMS:
Connection: Factory C Clip Style
Meth Bung: Yes 2 Standard
Finish: Black
BOV: None
OEM DV: Yes, only option

CP-E:
Connection: Factory C Clip Style
Meth Bung: No
Finish: Polished or Black
BOV: HKS or Tial
OEM DV: No
Note: May not be compatible with all intakes.

Turbo_power4ever · 10-15-2015, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

ETS:
Connection: Clamp/Coupler to Throttle Body
Meth Bung: No
Finish: Wrinkle Black Only
BOV: Tial HKS Synapse
OEM DV: No factory DV option

Evolution Racewerks (ER):
Connection: Factory C Clip Style
Meth Bung: Yes 0, 1 or 2
Finish: Polished, Anodized Black or Brushed
BOV: Tial HKS, Synapse Flange Only
OEM DV: Yes factory style and optional Forge DV

VRSF:
Connection: Factory C Clip Style or Coupler/Clamp to Throttle Body
Meth Bung: Yes 1 Only
Finish: Black for C Clip / Polished for Coupler/Clamp Style
BOV: HKS Tial Only
OEM DV: Not yet, ETA Summer

Active Autowerke:
Connection: Factory C clip
Meth Bung: No
Finish: Black
BOV: AA BOV only
OEM DV: No

Agency Power:
Connection: Coupler Clamp to Throttle Body
Meth Bung: No
Finish: Black
BOV: Agency Power BOV Only
OEM DV: No

BMS:
Connection: Factory C Clip Style
Meth Bung: Yes 2 Standard
Finish: Black
BOV: None
OEM DV: Yes, only option

CP-E:
Connection: Factory C Clip Style
Meth Bung: No
Finish: Polished or Black
BOV: HKS or Tial
OEM DV: No
Note: May not be compatible with all intakes.

I have a cp-e and it came with a meth bung? Lol

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tc535i Lieutenant Colonel 222 Rep 1,818 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, 2001 330i, 1995 M3 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: West Los Angeles iTrader: (1)	isn't that a synapse bov? I've heard good things about them, you say they're known to fail?
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Tiago@VRSF 2108 Rep 43,350 Posts Drives: F90 M5 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Doral, FL iTrader: (99) Garage List 2014 F30 328xi [0.00] 2015 F82 BMW M4 [0.00] 2013 Ducati 1199 Pa ... [0.00] 2008 BMW 335i [0.00]	That's a bootleg HKS. There's no name on it because it's a fake. Synapse is a reputable brand, that is not a Synapse.
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Jhe JHE 10 Rep 170 Posts Drives: 2010 335i Coupe Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: LA iTrader: (1)	Charge Pipe Opinion You can't beat ETS for the quality and price. And great customer service as a bonus.
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tc535i Lieutenant Colonel 222 Rep 1,818 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, 2001 330i, 1995 M3 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: West Los Angeles iTrader: (1)	went with an ER pipe/Tial BOV, got a package deal with the ER intercooler at the same time having some alignment issues tho, I think I need a bigger hump hose.
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Tiago@VRSF 2108 Rep 43,350 Posts Drives: F90 M5 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Doral, FL iTrader: (99) Garage List 2014 F30 328xi [0.00] 2015 F82 BMW M4 [0.00] 2013 Ducati 1199 Pa ... [0.00] 2008 BMW 335i [0.00]	The meth bung comes pre-plugged as pictured
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06-06-2014, 11:26 AM	#54
chillbil79 First Lieutenant 45 Rep 307 Posts Drives: 08 335xi Sedan Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Delaware iTrader: (1)	My opinion Stock until it breaks. Guys run high boost with stock cp dv 's I know you want the bov but for little more $ you can get a great intercooler from 2 vendor in this thread and your car will be much happier. Just my opinion though. Everyone likes and wants different things
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06-08-2014, 10:39 AM	#56
davidwarren Captain 191 Rep 677 Posts Drives: M8C GC Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Louisville, ky iTrader: (0)	hey, has anyone with an upgraded CP with DVs upgraded the worm gear clamps for t-clamps? __________________ 2010 335i e90 Le Mans Blue/Chestnut Brown \| M-Sport \| 6MT
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06-08-2014, 02:18 PM	#57
Jhe JHE 10 Rep 170 Posts Drives: 2010 335i Coupe Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: LA iTrader: (1)	I just installed the ETS with Tial Q BOV. I have know plans for meth in the future either, So I went the ETS route. Pipe and clamp quality is top notch and fit is spot on as well. On the lower side of pricing as well.
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04-28-2015, 12:06 PM	#61
tc535i Lieutenant Colonel 222 Rep 1,818 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, 2001 330i, 1995 M3 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: West Los Angeles iTrader: (1)	still loving my er long w/Tial!
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Game ------ 8148 Rep 10,623 Posts Drives: G80 LCI, G87 (sold) Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Chicago'ish iTrader: (25)	Bumping this up. Seems like the ER charge pipe seems to be the most popular. I just can't really figure out why when it's a third of the price more expensive than the VRSF CP when they all essentially do the same thing. Can anyone chime in? __________________
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Tiago@VRSF 2108 Rep 43,350 Posts Drives: F90 M5 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Doral, FL iTrader: (99) Garage List 2014 F30 328xi [0.00] 2015 F82 BMW M4 [0.00] 2013 Ducati 1199 Pa ... [0.00] 2008 BMW 335i [0.00]	They released theirs before we did but I wouldn't say it's the most popular, we sell a few hundred a year. Both are made from the same material, both offer multiple bov/dv choices and both offer the same CNC OEM throttle body connection. The ER has a sharp 2.5" to 3" transition and they seem to upcharge for all the Inge we already offer. All our charge pipes are the "long" version, are coated winkle black and include meth bungs at no additional charge. We also machine the flange to accommodate a larger o-ring to produce a larger contact surface to prevent leaking at higher boost. Last edited by Tiago@VRSF; 05-25-2015 at 07:14 AM..
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