[Shift]

Yep - that's the right cable. I forgot to look... are you in the U.S.? If so you don't need to buy the cable, it's included in the price of the option.[/QUOTE]


My selling dealer forgot to give the cable to me. They are sending me one today. Since I bought one from another dealer I will just return one and get my money back.

As for my question, has anyone experienced the Ipod saying "OK to Disconnect"? I can't get past that issue to even see if the Ipod will function.

[jmonier]

Originally Posted by Shift

As for my question, has anyone experienced the Ipod saying "OK to Disconnect"? I can't get past that issue to even see if the Ipod will function.

That's what mine displays at all times. The Pause symbol is in the upper left hand corner when AUX is NOT selected. When AUX IS selected and the iPod is playing the Play symbol is in the upper left hand corner.

[Shift]

jmonier - Are you suggesting that the pause symbol is on the Ipod or the vehicle radio screen ( I do not have Idrive/Nav)? What control on the radio do I use to start the Ipod play function? The instructions that came with the car are worthless.

[LEDZEP]

Originally Posted by T Bone

Did the search but can anyone conclude the Creative Zen Vision M does not work with the 6FL other than through the analog Aux-in?

Thanks.

I recall that the Microsoft MP3 player was not USB compatible with 6FL, but I thought Creative was. Since you're asking, does that mean you've tried and it does not?

[T Bone]

Originally Posted by LEDZEP

I recall that the Microsoft MP3 player was not USB compatible with 6FL, but I thought Creative was. Since you're asking, does that mean you've tried and it does not?

I am doing this research for a friend. He has the Zen and has had problems with it. When I searched this board, very few hits between Zen and 6FL....

I also looked at the BMW technical service bulletins and only the Creative MuVo stick was validated to work.

So I guess I have to tell my friend, it will be hit or miss. I recommended he just get an iPod for his car. I am going to show him the iPod integration in my car and I am pretty sure he will walk away needing the great integration with iPod.

[jmonier]

Originally Posted by Shift

jmonier - Are you suggesting that the pause symbol is on the Ipod or the vehicle radio screen ( I do not have Idrive/Nav)? What control on the radio do I use to start the Ipod play function? The instructions that came with the car are worthless.

Pause symbol is on the IPod screen.

I DO have iDrive so I can't be sure how it would work in a non-iDrive situation but I think it would be something like this:

1. Select the AUX input (with the iPod connected)
2. You should then have some selections on the radio display such as Play, Pause, etc. which can be selected using the buttons directly below the display.

[Shift]

jmonier - unfortunatly the only thing that appears on my head unit is a volume control and a back arrow that switches the unit back to the AM/FM receiver, CD player, USB or AUX (which is the IPOD). I set up an appointment with the dealer to have them take a look at it.

[jmonier]

Originally Posted by Shift

jmonier - unfortunatly the only thing that appears on my head unit is a volume control and a back arrow that switches the unit back to the AM/FM receiver, CD player, USB or AUX (which is the IPOD). I set up an appointment with the dealer to have them take a look at it.

Are you saying that you have BOTH USB and AUX available to select? If that's the case, there is probably something wrong with the cable or connection. I only have AUX available (USB does not appear) when using the Y-cable.

[Shift]

Originally Posted by jmonier

Are you saying that you have BOTH USB and AUX available to select? If that's the case, there is probably something wrong with the cable or connection. I only have AUX available (USB does not appear) when using the Y-cable.

Yes, I get both a USB and AUX options. Here's another interesting thing, I tried starting a song on the Ipod and then connecting the Y-cable. The song starts to play over the car audio system but I can't control anything (from the head unit or the Ipod). In fact, the Ipod song time indicator sticks at the time I connected it to the Y-cable (but the song is playing).

It's amazing that BMW can put an option into production that has this many problems. Of course, when you ask the service writers if they are hearing about similar problems with the 6FL, they claim they are not aware of any.

[jmonier]

Originally Posted by Shift

Yes, I get both a USB and AUX options. Here's another interesting thing, I tried starting a song on the Ipod and then connecting the Y-cable. The song starts to play over the car audio system but I can't control anything (from the head unit or the Ipod). In fact, the Ipod song time indicator sticks at the time I connected it to the Y-cable (but the song is playing).

This doesn't sound like proper procedure so I'm not surprised at the results. You shouldn't expect it to work right if you connect the cable while it is playing. If you shut down the iPod (when operating stand-alone) while playing a song and then plug it in to the car and start the car, it should power up and continue playing at the point where you shut down. That's what mine does, anyway.

If it still has both AUX and USB selections when you follow the above procedure then there's definitely something wrong (probably with the cable). Have you gotten the second cable from your original dealer yet? Try that one.

It's amazing that BMW can put an option into production that has this many problems. Of course, when you ask the service writers if they are hearing about similar problems with the 6FL, they claim they are not aware of any.

Well, your problem seems to be unique (and it's really just one problem, not many) so it's not really fair to make this statement on that basis.

The one problem that seems to be recurring is the switch to FM/AM while listening to the iPod. While there are many instances of this problem, it is just one problem (not "many") and not everyone has it.

I have NEVER seen this problem in 6200 miles of driving cross-country while continuously listening to the iPod. The closest I have come is that 2 or 3 times (out of 50 or more) it started up in FM when I started the car (after shutting down listening to the iPod). In all the other cases, it just resumed playing where it had left off.

[JWadle]

My car (2007 335xi) just spent 8 days at the dealership during which they worked with a group at BMWNA they referred to as "PUMA" to diagnose and fix the iPod to FM switching problem. In other words, as delivered my car would switch from iPod to FM after 5-15 minutes of play.

The solution that resulted required a replacment of something called the M-ULF module and reprogramming of the iDrive with version 26.0. This solution has been documented as PUMA case # 11010808.

This has solved the problem.

[greenman]

Hi Jwadle:

I'm in Denver, and had the switching to FM issue on a recent ED trip with a 335xi w/o iDrive. I expect the car to get here at the end of July.

Mind if I ask what dealer you took it too? I assume Gebhardt, but just wanted to ask. I bought mine out-of-state because none of the Denver dealers would except anything except ED MSRP, so I'm not attached to any dealer around here yet - besides Murry being the most convenient for me.

Thanks!

[JWadle]

Originally Posted by greenman

Hi Jwadle:

I'm in Denver, and had the switching to FM issue on a recent ED trip with a 335xi w/o iDrive. I expect the car to get here at the end of July.

Mind if I ask what dealer you took it too? I assume Gebhardt, but just wanted to ask. I bought mine out-of-state because none of the Denver dealers would except anything except ED MSRP, so I'm not attached to any dealer around here yet - besides Murry being the most convenient for me.

Thanks!

Yes, the dealer was Gebhardt.

[LEDZEP]

Originally Posted by JWadle

My car (2007 335xi) just spent 8 days at the dealership during which they worked with a group at BMWNA they referred to as "PUMA" to diagnose and fix the iPod to FM switching problem. In other words, as delivered my car would switch from iPod to FM after 5-15 minutes of play.

The solution that resulted required a replacment of something called the M-ULF module and reprogramming of the iDrive with version 26.0. This solution has been documented as PUMA case # 11010808.

This has solved the problem.

Excellent! So anyone else who is having this problem should reference this PUMA case until there is a service bulletin.

[AndreTheGeek]

My dealer has ordered me a new "ULF" to resolve my issues. It is on back-order though. Hope it works!

[Bimmerforlife]

What is a M-ULF module? Is that part of the 6FL cable? Where is it located?

I guess if this is the fix, the poster should report back in a week or 2 to let us know if it switching to FM anymore or the problem is solved?

[msimon18]

I have never had the switching to FM issue since I had my E93 - 7 weeks now. However, V26 was just installed and I have noticed a SWITCHING issue that DOES NOW occu repeatedly.

Seems when I power the car off and then turn it back on within a few hours it comes back exactly where it was when it was turned off. If in Aux with iPod then that is where it comes back to. If in FM that is where it comes back to.

If I leave it off overnight when I get back in the next morning it now ALWAYS comes back up in FM on the last station tuned. If I manually switch back to Aux iPod it starts EXACTLY where it left off mid song or wherever.

No one knows if this is NORMAL or NOT. Anyway, not worth making an issue of.

[TrondT]

Originally Posted by Bimmerforlife

What is a M-ULF module? Is that part of the 6FL cable? Where is it located?

The M-ULF module is the ULF module for MOST-bus based vehicles (E90 et al.). The ULF is apparently an acronym for "BMW Universal Bluetooth Hands-Free System", in some language or another. It's a pretty big box:
bluetoothcar.typepad.com/main/files/OwnersManualBluetooth.pdf

No idea what it has to with the iPod.

[e92sam]

Mine randomly switches back to FM; never when "in-use", only after the car is turned off and sits for "X" time. Usually happens overnight, but occasionally after sitting at work all day. It's always a surprise because the music starts before the screen comes up and the FM (for some reason) is set on a classical music station. FM sucks big-time in San Diego, unless you like Mexican stations, so its a last resort for my music after IPOD - Satellite - CD.
I have I-Drive and my car was built in mid-April 2007.

[LEDZEP]

Originally Posted by e92sam

Mine randomly switches back to FM; never when "in-use", only after the car is turned off and sits for "X" time. Usually happens overnight, but occasionally after sitting at work all day. It's always a surprise because the music starts before the screen comes up and the FM (for some reason) is set on a classical music station. FM sucks big-time in San Diego, unless you like Mexican stations, so its a last resort for my music after IPOD - Satellite - CD.
I have I-Drive and my car was built in mid-April 2007.

Mine does this too. My '06 would also do it and switch from Sirius to FM after shutting it off.

[msimon18]

So ...... that's 3 of us here on this forum that have the same issue with FM switching after car sits idle for aperiod of time with cars produced around the same time. Is it worth trying to take some action here ???

[planetscott]

My car does the same thing.

What I'm wondering if it may have something to do with the amount of time it takes for the iPod to initialize before starting the car. How soon do you start the car after unlocking the doors and getting in? I find that when it does switch to FM when I start, if I wait 2-3 seconds I can usually switch to my iPod (I use a programmable button for it). What I'm going to try when I leave the office is giving the car maybe 10 seconds from when I get in to when I start it.