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      02-08-2012, 03:18 PM   #683
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Exactly, these base maps aren't likely to be released, why would they be? Without seeing them before tweaks are made then we'll never know. I'm simply stating this: If terry@bms started a single project and did the tuning for the vishnu single tweaked his maps slightly for power and stated he had a hardware superiority by saying the maps were the same we wouldn't be any wiser. This would give an artificial feeling of superior hardware design by showing better numbers. I'm not saying that they would do this, but a customers purchase will come down to this in the end. Which kit is engineered better. To say you won't be analyzing these numbers to see which one performs better would be a lie.

EDIT: Another example. lets say HPF puts out untuned numbers. If shiv put out high numbers, which he states follow the same base map but how would we really know if it was or wasn't truly the same base map? If the maps aren't released then we'd never really know it. Just sayin. Its just way too easy to say, my timing looks better because my hardware is more efficient and doesn't pull as much timing as XYZ kit does at redline.

Also, I'm speaking of these INITIAL numbers. In the end when tuning is done, the story will tell itself, I'm merely speaking of these first impression dyno figures. We're all wondering whose kit will perform better. I am.
I can understand what you are saying, but from what I've read Shiv is trying to create a kit that will probably be more comparable to HPF Stage 2. HPF obviously will be using another form of control since they'll be adding port injection. From this perspective, Shiv wouldn't really have a reason to water down a tune for HPF since their stage 1 will be limited by stock fueling, while Shiv's kit will have some form of upgraded fueling. I could be wrong though, maybe the kits will be in the same neighborhood. Just my thought.

Either way, I am 100% in the market for one of these kits this year. Just gonna wait it out a couple months to see which I like better.
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      02-08-2012, 03:26 PM   #684
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Hey I don't know if you guys heard about this but HPF is coming out with a turbo kit and so is Shiv. They are going to post dyno results soon.......lol
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      02-08-2012, 04:34 PM   #685
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We will shortly also be releasing our Z4M Single Turbo Kit

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      02-08-2012, 04:37 PM   #686
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Cool vid Chris! I'm sure it's going to be a complete animal
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This thread could have been 3 pages max instead of 32 fucking pages!!
Let's just wait for HPF to update their progress
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I thought we were going to start getting hourly updates like if they turn on the engine or change the ac from 72 to 71 degrees.
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I thought we were going to start getting hourly updates like if they turn on the engine or change the ac from 72 to 71 degrees.
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      02-08-2012, 08:11 PM   #690
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chris no update on single turbo n54 (
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      02-08-2012, 08:37 PM   #691
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After 32 pages of reading and trying to find the dyno sheet! I would love to see some numbers!!
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After 32 pages of reading and trying to find the dyno sheet! I would love to see some numbers!!
I know. Soon....
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Soon....
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Didn't your mothers ever tell you that patience is a virtue. The dyno will come when it is time.

No sense in beating Chris up everyday about it.
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      02-09-2012, 05:08 PM   #696
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      02-09-2012, 11:08 PM   #697
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I know. Soon....
Sorry, just excited!
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I thought we were going to start getting hourly updates like if they turn on the engine or change the ac from 72 to 71 degrees.
LMAo
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fawk we need an update
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      02-11-2012, 05:42 PM   #700
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Crap, i just got excited bout my own page.... I know man, my anxiety is through the roof.
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Crap, i just got excited bout my own page.... I know man, my anxiety is through the roof.
why don't you call them and find out about you're car and let us know how it's doing?
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I do sometimes but I've been getting set into my new house and stuff and haven't rally had internet or day time to call. just been looking on here. I talked to Josh on thursday and he said they were basically squared away with the oil draining issue. I try to actually not think about it. it makes it a little easer.

Also, its saturday.
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@HPF

I am still trying to make sense out of why HPF would go with Procede when Shiv, in my eyes, is their competitor. I see so much conflict of interest in this mixed up fruit bowl.

To HPF: Not telling you all how to run your buisness, but I do run a buisness myself, a very large business. If you all want to be successful with this kit, since Shiv already beat you to it, you need to break loose and go with Cobb.
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