[dcstep]

Originally Posted by ddk632

Mickey Mouse Says Merry Christmas

I took my grand daughters last Christmas. Magical, but EXPENSIVE. They jack up all the prices close to double through the first week of January.

Dave

[ddk632]

Originally Posted by dcstep

I took my grand daughters last Christmas. Magical, but EXPENSIVE. They jack up all the prices close to double through the first week of January.

Dave

C'mon Dave, you know Mickey Mouse doesn't work for free!

[dcstep]

Originally Posted by ddk632

C'mon Dave, you know Mickey Mouse doesn't work for free!

He must get double-time for the holidays...

[ddk632]

Originally Posted by dcstep

He must get double-time for the holidays...

I don't know if he sees any of that money. I mean, I always see him driving a Mini Cooper... But with all the money they charge over at Disney World, you'd think Mickey Mouse would be driving a Rolls Royce!

Then again, I hear he does live in a pretty nice house:


Magic Castle, Disney World by ddk632, on Flickr



Hope you're having a great holiday!

[dcstep]

Nice house, indeed.

[M_Six]

Nice shots, David.

I'm waffling between the 6D and the 5D MkIII. Some of my favorite shots from my looooong walk around London back in September were taken at a shutter speed of 1/6400s or 1/8000s. I'm wondering now if the 6D's 1/4000 limitation will make me regret buying it when I decide to use one of my fast primes outdoors.

I love the low light focusing ability of the 6D, but the high ISO noise performance is pretty much equal on the MkIII. I don't care about GPS and while the wifi would be cool to have, it' not a deal breaker for the MkIII. That price, though....

[dcstep]

Originally Posted by M_Six

Nice shots, David.

I'm waffling between the 6D and the 5D MkIII. Some of my favorite shots from my looooong walk around London back in September were taken at a shutter speed of 1/6400s or 1/8000s. I'm wondering now if the 6D's 1/4000 limitation will make me regret buying it when I decide to use one of my fast primes outdoors.

I love the low light focusing ability of the 6D, but the high ISO noise performance is pretty much equal on the MkIII. I don't care about GPS and while the wifi would be cool to have, it' not a deal breaker for the MkIII. That price, though....

Do you need the MkIII's AF system and 6-fps? I think that those are the keys to making the decision. Most people never really use those capabilities. I shoot birds and wildlife, so those functions are key and it's a no-brainer for me to go with the MkIII. For travel, portraits, landscapes, street shooting and most general use shooting you'll never need those features and the 6D will be up to your needs. OTOH, if you shoot a significant amount of sports action or wildlife, then go for the MkIII.

Of course, that analysis ignores price. If price is a problem, the the 6D will work well, just not as well. I have a pro wildlife photographer friend that uses a 5D MkII, which the 6D equals and/or surpasses in most respects.

Oh, why in the world are you shooting at such high SSs? i shoot birds in flight, running deer and rabits and consider 1/2000-second fast. I only go higher for humming birds in flight.

Dave

[M_Six]

Originally Posted by dcstep

Do you need the MkIII's AF system and 6-fps? I think that those are the keys to making the decision. Most people never really use those capabilities. I shoot birds and wildlife, so those functions are key and it's a no-brainer for me to go with the MkIII. For travel, portraits, landscapes, street shooting and most general use shooting you'll never need those features and the 6D will be up to your needs. OTOH, if you shoot a significant amount of sports action or wildlife, then go for the MkIII.

Of course, that analysis ignores price. If price is a problem, the the 6D will work well, just not as well. I have a pro wildlife photographer friend that uses a 5D MkII, which the 6D equals and/or surpasses in most respects.

Oh, why in the world are you shooting at such high SSs? i shoot birds in flight, running deer and rabits and consider 1/2000-second fast. I only go higher for humming birds in flight.

Dave

Shooting wide open at f1.4 or f2 in sunshine at 100ISO requires faster SS. Sure, you can stop down and shoot at 1/4000s, but you lose shallow DOF and bokeh that way.

The other issue is one of extra camera bodies. If I get the 6D, I'll feel like I need to keep the 7D for wide open daylight shooting and those rare occasions when I need faster AF tracking. With the MkIII, I'd be free to sell the 7D and my EF-S lenses to offset the cost.

That said, if I knew ahead of time I was going to shoot wide open in sunshine, I could always mount one of my ND filters on the lens first. Hence the waffling. The lower cost of the 6D is certainly attractive.

[dcstep]

Originally Posted by M_Six

Shooting wide open at f1.4 or f2 in sunshine at 100ISO requires faster SS. Sure, you can stop down and shoot at 1/4000s, but you lose shallow DOF and bokeh that way.

The other issue is one of extra camera bodies. If I get the 6D, I'll feel like I need to keep the 7D for wide open daylight shooting and those rare occasions when I need faster AF tracking. With the MkIII, I'd be free to sell the 7D and my EF-S lenses to offset the cost.

That said, if I knew ahead of time I was going to shoot wide open in sunshine, I could always mount one of my ND filters on the lens first. Hence the waffling. The lower cost of the 6D is certainly attractive.

An ND filter or two might solve your problem and keep you to one body.

Dave

[ddk632]

I hope this is not a controversial opinion, only my experience and what I learned while shooting film SLR's and getting started ...

In broad daylight, an ND filter not only will serve to keep the shutter speeds to a reasonable level, but also increases contrast in the final image. For this reason, if I do go out shooting in the middle of the day, I will bring an ND filter in my bag for the contrast and not for the shutter speeds. The latter is a byproduct of the former, for me. It's like wearing sunglasses.

The only time recently I've been out and needed to use 1/4000 (or could have needed faster), coincidentally, was when I brought with my on my motorcycle only my Sigma f/1.4 and my XTi, and forgot my filter pouch!

Since its the snapshot thread, I like to add a snapshot with these discussions

Here's the shot from that day ...

Diavel on A1A by ddk632, on Flickr

So I think the max shutter speed is a really small feature to base this decision on.

Look at it this way: say you but a Mark III - will you, when asked, say that your primary reason for the purchase was the 1/8000 max shutter speed? Or (more likely) you'd justify the decision with AF and FPS?

[Chewy734]

Nearly frozen

[M_Six]

Welcome back, Chewy! How's life treating you?

David and Dave,

I went with the 6D after all. I have ND filters if needed and I really like low light photography, so the 6D sounded better. That price difference was the killer for the MkIII.

Now I need to wait until Jan 2nd before it's in my hands. Amazon has a decent deal on them. They're $1999 and you get 6% back in store credit. That brings the final price to $1879.

[dcstep]

Hey Chewy. Welcome back.

Mark, I think you'll be really happy with the 6D.

Dave

[Chewy734]

Thanks guys.

Mark, it's been a whirlwind for the past 6 or so months. I broke up with my longtime gf, found someone else, got engaged and married pretty quickly in India. I was also busy with work, might be moving to Minneapolis in the next couple months if I get my "dream job", etc.

I've heard good things about the 6D. I think you would've enjoyed the jump to the 5D3, but the 6D is a better value for the kind of shooting you do most of the time. I think you'll really like it!

[triton3k]

BK by Denn-Ice, on Flickr

[Chewy734]

Peeking through

[ddk632]

Sunrise this morning..


Sunrise in Parkland by ddk632, on Flickr

[M_Six]

Great shot, Denn. I thought I'd seen all the angles of that bridge, but that's a new perspective for me. Very nice.

[remmib]

Got some detailing stuff and clean and waxed one of my winters today.

[M_Six]

Originally Posted by Chewy734

Thanks guys.

Mark, it's been a whirlwind for the past 6 or so months. I broke up with my longtime gf, found someone else, got engaged and married pretty quickly in India. I was also busy with work, might be moving to Minneapolis in the next couple months if I get my "dream job", etc.

I've heard good things about the 6D. I think you would've enjoyed the jump to the 5D3, but the 6D is a better value for the kind of shooting you do most of the time. I think you'll really like it!

Wow, whirlwind indeed. Glad you're back in any case. Heard from Reed lately? He's been AWOL as well.

If I had the discretionary funds, I would have certainly gone with the MkIII, but I just couldn't justify the extra expense right now. That $1000 could go towards a Sigma 35 1.4 or some such thing down the road.

And since this is indeed the Snapshot thread...I present Mr. Wally Buckles.

[triton3k]

thanks M_six. If you really want a Mark 3 look around cause the price around this time have been pretty low. I've seen them for as low as $2500. The 6D has some nice features but still lack a few small things that I can say I love about the 5DMK3.

[M_Six]

Originally Posted by triton3k

thanks M_six. You got the 6D or plan on getting it?

It's been ordered. I'll get it next Wednesday when I get back to the office. Looking forward to some low light work.