[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by jamesinaz

I feel for officers when they respond to domestic or mental break calls. Nothing fun about that. As someone who was subjected to severe pain and meds for an extended time in a hospital and had a psychotic break I get it how hard it is to handle this stuff. I am not a bad person but at the time I was convinced they were trying to kill me.

I am only a normal size and over 60 and yet had I resisted with the strength of that mental break the hospital orderlies would have had to use serious force to control me. Luckily deep inside I guess there was still a part of me that knew the people around me weren't really trying to kill me and roast me. So I never forced hands on restraint.

I got no answer to your question. I think police have a role in responding to mentally ill violent people. Who else? Restraints are obviously the answer. And sadly if someone is in that state AND armed (even "just" a knife) you may have to use deadly force. Not a happy outcome but better than 3 dead civilians and one cop hesitant to use their firearm when a lunatic approaches inside the safe distance of a person with a knife.

I think there is no perfect answer unless we want to invest in lots of special units trained and equipped to handle specifically mentally ill people.

Thank you for this post and for sharing some of your personal experiences and struggles. I feel like we learned something significant about you that helps us fully understand your perspective. Much appreciated......and I'm glad that things are seemingly much better for you now than they were for you then.

[jamesinaz]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Thank you for this post and for sharing some of your personal experiences and struggles. I feel like we learned something significant about you that helps us fully understand your perspective. Much appreciated......and I'm glad that things are seemingly much better for you now than they were for you then.

Thanks. After 3 months in hospital the doctor told my wife I'd be OK to come home in a day or two. She looked at him like "he's fucking nuts dude". They sent me to a physical rehab place since I was too weak to walk after 3 months on my back without eating. The mental issues cleared after one night away from the hospital with a closed door and no beeping or interruptions. No drugs and real sleep cured me.

I would suggest to anyone with a loved in on the hospital that reports seeing things to take it seriously. it is very real to them. I believe it is common for people whose kidney is an issue (and all my organs had shut down including the kidney which took the longest to come back online).

[Dang3r]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

When you hit SoCal, let’s try to coordinate a lunch get-together with the other Bimmerpost members in the area.

Yeah, that'll be great, lets get in touch to this when the time will coming closer.

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

When you hit SoCal, let’s try to coordinate a lunch get-together with the other Bimmerpost members in the area.

Originally Posted by Dang3r

Yeah, that'll be great, lets get in touch to this when the time will coming closer.

I'm in!! As long as it's not a Sunday...

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Soul_Glo

Have y’all dealt with many domestic violence cases?

Domestic violence cases are an every day occurrence in the field. On average, we probably respond to AT LEAST five domestic violence calls a day between romantic partners, and I’m not even including the domestic cases involving family members.

Originally Posted by Soul_Glo

What would be your advice for someone trapped who has been threatened? For example, the partner said: “If you leave me then I will kill myself.”

That is a manipulative approach and it’s all about controlling the other person regardless of whether or not there’s true intent behind the threat. At some point he’s going to have to make the hard decision to leave for his own mental and emotional health.

Originally Posted by Soul_Glo

Helping a friend build an escape plan from his abusive partner. He has been financially controlled, isolated from his family, and attacked a few times by her.

There is no “escape plan”…..and there’s no easy way out. It will be a “rip off the band-aid” moment. It will get worse before it gets better.

Originally Posted by Soul_Glo

This has gone on for many years and he opened up about his unhappiness for the first time the other day.

See my above responses. It will remain cyclical until he’s ready to make a hard decision. I don’t mean this to sound callous, but her mental health is not his concern at this point (…if he values his own quality of life).

Originally Posted by Soul_Glo

At the moment I have told him to keep the car tank full and facing the exit of his driveway. Also to try and remove important documents from the home.

The document suggestion was smart advice, but he needs to be thinking about the financial ramifications, etc. as well. They are married, so it isn’t as simple as two unmarried people separating. He needs to start building a safety net.

P.S. He needs to get to a place where he can manage the potential guilt he might experience should she make good on her threats when/if he leaves. Like I said, this will get worse before it gets better................unfortunately.

[Sedan_Clan]

Speaking of domestic violence calls/cases between romantic partners, here’s the third call in the last two hours:

[tom2021]

I stopped at the very front, on the red light.
There were cars on the left and the right side of me.
The police car with siren came behind my car.

I am sorry officer, unless one of you came out from your car and stopped all the cars from other directions, I could not help you out.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by tom2021

I stopped at the very front, on the red light.
There were cars on the left and the right side of me.
The police car with siren came behind my car.

I am sorry officer, unless one of you came out from your car and stopped all the cars from other directions, I could not help you out.

Is this a question or scenario you want a response to?!?!?

[UncleWede]

^ yes

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

^ yes

We would go around. I don’t think any officer/deputy expects a car to pull into traffic. Imagine the lawsuit should that person get involved in a collision and get injured/killed.

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Is this a question or scenario you want a response to?!?!?

I was saying yes to your first question, not answering what this person should do. Sorry for messing up your valuable thread

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

I was saying yes to your first question, not answering what this person should do. Sorry for messing up your valuable thread

Don't be silly Wedeman. You're all good!

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

Interesting. There's a bunch of moving parts in that video, and while I don't purport to know how every agency in every state handles certain crimes, that situation could've been handled a bit better (..in terms of crime scene management, etc.). The body camera does not show everything the human eye observes on scene, and a person with a rifle is [or can be] both a mental health crisis AND a potentially deadly situation for the officers (..and it could result in deadly force). I do think the father agitated officers, but I do think the officer(s) shouldn't have fed into it; the father roped them in with his behavior.

People do things and ask for "attention" from officers, then get upset when they get it (..and then want to play the victim). I've had it happen to me and I gave that person the attention they wanted. In one case, in particular, that same person nearly threatened the judge in court because he didn't get his way. Yeah! #truecolors

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Interesting. There's a bunch of moving parts in that video, and while I don't purport to know how every agency in every state handles certain crimes, that situation could've been handled a bit better (..in terms of crime scene management, etc.). The body camera does not show everything the human eye observes on scene, and a person with a rifle is [or can be] both a mental health crisis AND a potentially deadly situation for the officers (..and it could result in deadly force). I do think the father agitated officers, but I do think the officer(s) shouldn't have fed into it; the father roped them in with his behavior.

People do things and ask for "attention" from officers, then get upset when they get it (..and then want to play the victim). I've had it happen to me and I gave that person the attention they wanted. In one case, in particular, that same person nearly threatened the judge in court because he didn't get his way. Yeah! #truecolors

Agreed. look if I role up in front of cops who are already at my house with a gun, I am likely to get shot.

the whole exchange with the other cop, should have been handled more professionally.

[ezaircon4jc]

Today's rain begs a question...

Do you guys write fewer tickets on rainy days like today?

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

I live in a township outside princeton, back in the day cops always used to pull people over for minor traffic infaractions. Now I rarely see anyone pulled over, or any type of speed enforcement. Ideas why?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

I live in a township outside princeton, back in the day cops always used to pull people over for minor traffic infaractions. Now I rarely see anyone pulled over, or any type of speed enforcement. Ideas why?

Lack of department morale. It's the infractions everybody deems as "minor" that lead to the big busts or us catching a wanted felon. In many cases the irony is the most rewarding. People who are the most outspoken about pre-text traffic stops are the first to want us to "do something" when they become a victim. Example: "Stupid cops! Always writing stop sign and red light tickets. Why don't you go catch real criminals!!??"

....and then they get their car smashed up by somebody running a stop sign or red light and all of a sudden they want us to write reports and take licenses.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

Today's rain begs a question...

Do you guys write fewer tickets on rainy days like today?

I write more. My tolerance for wacky driving is lower on rainy days.

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Lack of department morale. It's the infractions everybody deems as "minor" that lead to the big busts or us catching a wanted felon. In many cases the irony is the most rewarding. People who are the most outspoken about pre-text traffic stops are the first to want us to "do something" when they become a victim. Example: "Stupid cops! Always writing stop sign and red light tickets. Why don't you go catch real criminals!!??"

....and then they get their car smashed up by somebody running a stop sign or red light and all of a sudden they want us to write reports and take licenses.

my local cops let me drive with my tints and no front plate so thats about the only slack i want. Other than that I pretty much obey every single traffic law.

the people who complain consequently only do it when its benefits them. I am on a 25mph being tailgated by a string of soccer moms because I am literally going 25, why? because my car is a cop magnet.


these same people will write 5 paragraph essays that someone was flying down the road while they were dropping off their kids during school.

rinse and repeat

same people who drive with their high beams on at night
and left lane camp

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

my local cops let me drive with my tints and no front plate so thats about the only slack i want. Other than that I pretty much obey every single traffic law.

the people who complain consequently only do it when its benefits them. I am on a 25mph being tailgated by a string of soccer moms because I am literally going 25, why? because my car is a cop magnet.


these same people will write 5 paragraph essays that someone was flying down the road while they were dropping off their kids during school.

rinse and repeat

same people who drive with their high beams on at night
and left lane camp

It's an interesting phenomenon, isn't it?!?! I still haven't quite figured out the human psyche as it pertains to this behavior.

[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

I live in a township outside princeton, back in the day cops always used to pull people over for minor traffic infaractions. Now I rarely see anyone pulled over, or any type of speed enforcement. Ideas why?

I work a little north of you in Central NJ. There used to be the regular spots where the Troopers would hide. They have been mostly non existent since lockdown and I haven't seen them come back.