[LMB335IS]

Originally Posted by Yournamehere90

I don't have the ghost cam "mod", but are you aware that there are engines with aggressive camshafts besides V8s? It doesn't have to be a V8 to lope. Even if it's pointless, it does make the owner happy to hear it. Your is has a spoiler on it, right? That's worthless too, except cosmetics.

People don't put aggressive cams in their motors for a idle lope. That's a byproduct. And no shit it doesn't have to be a V8, that was an example. And you can buy a device that gives your Toyota hybrid a loud ass blow off sound but it doesn't mean you should.

I don't care what people do with their car, that doesn't mean I can't think it's f'ing stupid if I choose to. If you want to think a spoiler or exhaust tips are ridiculous, have at it. Why should I care?

[TrollToll]

Originally Posted by LMB335IS

People don't put aggressive cams in their motors for a idle lope. That's a byproduct. And no shit it doesn't have to be a V8, that was an example. And you can buy a device that gives your Toyota hybrid a loud ass blow off sound but it doesn't mean you should.

I don't care what people do with their car, that doesn't mean I can't think it's f'ing stupid if I choose to. If you want to think a spoiler or exhaust tips are ridiculous, have at it. Why should I care?

You can come in a thread and talk shit about something you don't agree with but it doesn't mean you should.

[LMB335IS]

Originally Posted by Yournamehere90

You can come in a thread and talk shit about something you don't agree with but it doesn't mean you should.

No shit talking. Straight up opinion. You don't have to like it or my adjectives. Life is like that.

[MHD Tuning]

Originally Posted by 89mustaine

Ok thanks MHD says I8AOS, would the app know to change versions if the dealer updated my software and changed this?

Yes the app uses the last and adequate software version. On top of that, there is no and there won't be any new update for i8a0s (msd80) which dates bacl to early 2010.

Originally Posted by T1M

MHD Tuning the sport mode v1.4 beta affects the level of crackles, it's no longer as aggressive as it was with v1.39
V1.4 'hard' is about the same as v1.39 'medium'

Originally Posted by CanadianTSi

Updated to 1.40 today and I also agree, aggressive isn't as "aggressive" on my PE modded exhaust.

That's a side effect of solving the jerkiness. I could add a "harder" setting if needed.

[jyamona]

Ghost cam is garbage.

[xTReeM]

Could you maybe add a fourth slider to the exhaust burble setting so you can change not only the duration of the burbles while in D or DS/M but also the aggressiveness? Would be pretty cool to "switch" the burbles completely off while driving in D Mode...

[T1M]

Originally Posted by xTReeM

Could you maybe add a fourth slider to the exhaust burble setting so you can change not only the duration of the burbles while in D or DS/M but also the aggressiveness? Would be pretty cool to "switch" the burbles completely off while driving in D Mode...

I do this with the current sport button tie in. Normal mode duration is 0s, sport mode duration is 5s

When in normal mode, with the except a slight pop at the moment of throttle lift (slightly more aggressive than stock) it's burble free decel. In sports it burbles nicely.

[Torgus]

Originally Posted by jyamona

Ghost cam is garbage.

It's effect is the same as this: noise. Noise for or no reason other than to make noise and have the car sound like something it is not. Ghost cam is the same thing, noise making the car sound like something it is not and or does not have.

I suggested it as this 'ppk noise feature' is going to get more people to switch over to MHD. Ghost cam would do the same thing. Which means more $$$ and who doesn't like making more $$$?

Add more features that make useless noise = more customers.

Just a suggestion


As far as cam lope we will never actually have cams for this engine most likely it's it's going to be fake noise or no noise.

[CanadianTSi]

Originally Posted by MHD Tuning

That's a side effect of solving the jerkiness. I could add a "harder" setting if needed.

More options is always nice. You could call it "Insane"

[Supra2k6]

Originally Posted by CanadianTSi

More options is always nice. You could call it "Insane"

i agree i had to upgrade due to jerkyness but liked the previews settings

[Supra2k6]

Originally Posted by J. Dub

I agree completely. But hard WAS fucking worthless cause all it did was do some strange bass thing that sounded like shit.
Now I have it on hard (which is the old medium) and it's perfect.
Also, Marshall, the car coasts now when off throttle. Nice job to you and Jake for fixing the off throttle issue.

Did you even get a change to post a video of your exhaust setup?

[T1M]

Originally Posted by Torgus

It's effect is the same as this: noise. Noise for or no reason other than to make noise and have the car sound like something it is not. Ghost cam is the same thing, noise making the car sound like something it is not and or does not have.

I suggested it as this 'ppk noise feature' is going to get more people to switch over to MHD. Ghost cam would do the same thing. Which means more $$$ and who doesn't like making more $$$?

Add more features that make useless noise = more customers.

Just a suggestion


As far as cam lope we will never actually have cams for this engine most likely it's it's going to be fake noise or no noise.

Burble on overrun is not faking the presence of something (hardware or other) that the cars 'do not have' . It's something associated with a sporty car; many people enjoy an exhaust note under acceleration, and it may surprise you to find out people also enjoy an exhaust note on deceleration too. The new M3, M4 and M2 do it. Many Porsches do it. Jag F-type does it, Audi RS3 does it...they're all tune based (from factory) decel burbles for aural enjoyment only. They did it because their market research suggested people really like it! Many feel it adds to the fun, playful nature of a sports car - cars you buy for fun, rather than pure practicality.

The faux lope is a little odd I agree, I had a built evo that loped so much due to cams I went down a cam size, raised the idle speed and added some timing to lessen it, but many think it sounds cool. I agree, it does, but the side effect was it liked to stall out in parking lots and it made it a PIA to drive.

About the money thing. Really? You're surprised MHD want to make money? They have spent loads of their personal time (and money too, I assume) to bring this product to a market almost totally devoid of tuning options. What do we have? Archaic piggy backs and a single company that dropped the marque once cracking the ECU's got too hard. Even with MHD where it's at now is early 2000's for many other car brands/models. We are so far behind. Do you have any idea what they are doing with stock ECU audi's, Porches, GTR's, Evo's, STI's etc? Rolling antilag, launch maps, 2-step rev limiters, full flex fuel capable, dual mapping, adding features the stock ECU never had in its code, the list is huge. MHD and their contributors like @jyamona need all the money and customers they can get, so they can single-handedly push this platform forwards.

If you don't like or want a feature, dude, it's simple - don't tick the box. Don't move the slider. It would also be nice, however, if you didn't deride those who wish to enjoy the features on offer.a If it brings someone happiness to hear a nice burble from their exhaust on decel, and it brings a few more customers and money MHD's way in the process, that's a good thing.

[jyamona]

Originally Posted by T1M

...... We are so far behind. Do you have any idea what they are doing with stock ECU audi's, Porches, GTR's, Evo's, STI's etc? Rolling antilag, launch maps, 2-step rev limiters, full flex fuel capable, dual mapping, adding features the stock ECU never had in its code, the list is huge. ...

[J. Dub]

Originally Posted by Supra2k6

Did you even get a change to post a video of your exhaust setup?

Fuck. Sorry. I forgot.

[fmoua916]

Just installed mhd today v1.4 stage 2 fmic v6 and did the burrble for 2 secs on hard setting and im loving it!!! Driving seems a little more jerky than the ots cobb stage 2 fmic tune but everything else seems smooth.

[Turkish Mafia]

Originally Posted by jyamona

That's just amazing.

[LMB335IS]

Originally Posted by jyamona

This. These are the features that should be on the priority list, not noise.

[TGNY 335]

Originally Posted by jyamona

lol

[T1M]

Originally Posted by jyamona

You're a legend. Bring it

[T1M]

Originally Posted by LMB335IS

This. These are the features that should be on the priority list, not noise.

Noise isn't hard to do, and it gets a lot of visibility. Some people buy N55 cars over N54 purely so they can flash the PPK tune for crackles.

The number of people prepared to flash stage 1 with burbles is huge compared to those needing the features I mentioned to stay with BMW for their project/build. I can have all those right now on a GTR for example, it's easy to jump ship and take the easy road. But you build up a customer base and brand visibility with the low hanging fruit first (stage 1/2 flashes and exhaust burbles) then with that money develop a more intricate feature set.

[Torgus]

Those are all awesome features.

Guess which feature is going to get more new customers and therefor more money? Look at this thread about exhaust noise, I swear it gets bumped daily. I unsubscribed for a while it was being bumped so much.

Go make a thread about rolling anti lag or two step and let me know when it gets to page 34.

Originally Posted by T1M

Noise isn't hard to do, and it gets a lot of visibility. Some people buy N55 cars over N54 purely so they can flash the PPK tune for crackles.

The number of people prepared to flash stage 1 with burbles is huge compared to those needing the features I mentioned to stay with BMW for their project/build. I can have all those right now on a GTR for example, it's easy to jump ship and take the easy road. But you build up a customer base and brand visibility with the low hanging fruit first (stage 1/2 flashes and exhaust burbles) then with that money develop a more intricate feature set.

This. I guarantee 90% or higher of MHD users or potential customers are never going to use those 'advanced' features. Most are going to flash an OTS that matches their mods and be done with it.

[Miller335]