All COBB Tuning AccessPORT Flash for N54 335i Discussion Here

Alan l. · 02-23-2011, 02:08 PM

^^ is it a standard command from the AP manager tool or do we have to do something else?

Surquhar · 02-23-2011, 02:25 PM

^^ Thats a good question. I had to email my ROM to COBB so they could update the firmware, but I havent been able to figure out where or if I can save it to the AP Manager.

Brunotheboxer · 02-23-2011, 02:32 PM

So is this available for the 335iS? I'm sure this has been asked before but there's too many pages.

blisstik · 02-23-2011, 02:35 PM

I would think it's a function of AP Manager. There's got to be an export ROM function.

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Originally Posted by Alan l.

^^ is it a standard command from the AP manager tool or do we have to do something else?

techlogik · 02-23-2011, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob@Cobb

I most certainly can answer these questions. The programing in the MSD80/MSD81 is very similar as well as how they communicate over a CAN bus to other modules attached to the vehicle. All N54 based vehicles starting in MY2008 have the CAN bus connected from the OBDII port to the ECU. MY2007 N54 based vehicles (335i) have what is called k-line, or serial, communication from the OBDII port to a "gateway".

The difference between MY2007 and MY2008+ being I needed to write the BMW specific k-line driver to speak BMW over serial/k-line for 2007 support. I have done so and am stress testing the code now before I let in out for beta. Whenever I write a new communication protocol I like to make very sure it's solid before putting it in the hands of the customers.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Cheers,
Rob

Das Ein · 02-23-2011, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob@Cobb

Working on Stage 2 and a revision to the Stage 1 maps at this point. They are coming.

Cheers,
Rob

(Cracking whip noise)...Back to work!

Rob@Cobb · 02-23-2011, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan l.

Rob,

Do you think the next revision of the maps will require a full un-install and reinstall like the last one? ETA?

Alan

It should not require and uninstall to update when the next revision maps are available.

I'm *shooting* for the next revision of maps by the end of march which should include revised stage 1 maps and stage 2 maps.

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Originally Posted by Alan l.

Cobb - What happens if the AP gets damaged or stolen after it was already installed in the car? Since the AP downloads the stock data, would it be a problem if the person wanted to go back to stock again?

I just thought of this because I would imagine more users were leave their AP in their car in case of any emergencies where the car has to go back in for service but this also poses a potential risk of theft as well.

Alan

As of right now the process to save your stock ROM off the AP is manual. If requires you go to the "AccessPORT" menu on the AP and select "Export ECU Data". From there you can use APM to pull the stock ROM off the AP and save it. The process to import your stock ROM to a new AP in the case of a stolen or broken AP is also a simple manual process.

In the next week or two we will be releasing a updated version of APM that will automatically grab your stock ROM off the AP and store it for you. In the case of loading your stock ROM on to a new AP, APM will allow you to import the ROM to your AP.

Cheers,
Rob

Rob@Cobb · 02-23-2011, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Brunotheboxer

So is this available for the 335iS? I'm sure this has been asked before but there's too many pages.

No sir, not as of yet. I am looking for a local (Dallas, San Antonio, or Austin) 335is to develop the maps on. If that does not happen I have a gentlemen in LA who will allow me to use his 335is for development at our LA facility. The LA facility dyno likely won't be up for a couple more months pushing support out.

If anyone in the area around Dallas or Austin has or knows someone with a 335is who would be willing to allow us to use their car for map development, please feel free to contact me privately.

Cheers,
Rob

d0nk3x · 02-23-2011, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob@Cobb

No sir, not as of yet. I am looking for a local (Dallas, San Antonio, or Austin) 335is to develop the maps on. If that does not happen I have a gentlemen in LA who will allow me to use his 335is for development at our LA facility. The LA facility dyno likely won't be up for a couple more months pushing support out.

If anyone in the area around Dallas or Austin has or knows someone with a 335is who would be willing to allow us to use their car for map development, please feel free to contact me privately.

Cheers,
Rob

I'm so close to shipping my car out to Texas. Another 335is tester here in LA if you need. Patience is a virtue I suppose.

Brunotheboxer · 02-23-2011, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob@Cobb

No sir, not as of yet. I am looking for a local (Dallas, San Antonio, or Austin) 335is to develop the maps on. If that does not happen I have a gentlemen in LA who will allow me to use his 335is for development at our LA facility. The LA facility dyno likely won't be up for a couple more months pushing support out.

If anyone in the area around Dallas or Austin has or knows someone with a 335is who would be willing to allow us to use their car for map development, please feel free to contact me privately.

Cheers,
Rob

Fair enough.

Bash · 02-24-2011, 03:04 AM

ROBBBBBBB- Please hurry up with the 2007 model version, im pretty sure a lot of people are loosing sleep over this

335timb · 02-24-2011, 09:30 AM

Rob,
If you need any '07 owners for beta testing, I'd be pleased to volunteer my services.

Tim

pHo_e92 · 02-24-2011, 09:37 AM

can't wait till the new revision maps come out. im already loving with what i have now.

InCityPhoto · 02-24-2011, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 335timb

Rob,
If you need any '07 owners for beta testing, I'd be pleased to volunteer my services.

Tim

Same here!

zeenon53 · 02-24-2011, 11:17 AM

Is there still a problem with the AP and the new software BMW released a few weeks ago? I'm about to take my car in for a new pump and most likely the new software will be applied and I want to buy an AP after the recall work is done.

Thx.

dzenno · 02-24-2011, 11:21 AM

I got a new pump without new software...they said my software already had the HPFP fix in it (ista 2.37.1)

zeenon53 · 02-24-2011, 11:38 AM

I think the newest software was 2.40.xx, don't hold me to it. BMWNA said I don't need new software just a new pump but I want still want to make sure everything is a go.

mithiral67 · 02-24-2011, 11:44 AM

zee, you should be fine.

Glowin · 02-24-2011, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dzenno

I got a new pump without new software...they said my software already had the HPFP fix in it (ista 2.37.1)

Took my car in today for the pump recall, and they also said they wouldn't be updating the software, as I had it updated last summer, and it should be fine. I'm also on 2.37. Too bad.

I thought people were saying the 2.40+ ones were much better over previous ones. Guess there's no way to convince them to do it under warranty if their system says it's not required?

roninsoldier83 · 02-24-2011, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob@Cobb

I most certainly can answer these questions. The programing in the MSD80/MSD81 is very similar as well as how they communicate over a CAN bus to other modules attached to the vehicle. All N54 based vehicles starting in MY2008 have the CAN bus connected from the OBDII port to the ECU. MY2007 N54 based vehicles (335i) have what is called k-line, or serial, communication from the OBDII port to a "gateway".

The difference between MY2007 and MY2008+ being I needed to write the BMW specific k-line driver to speak BMW over serial/k-line for 2007 support. I have done so and am stress testing the code now before I let in out for beta. Whenever I write a new communication protocol I like to make very sure it's solid before putting it in the hands of the customers.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Cheers,
Rob

Thank you for the update on '07 support! If you need a beta tester, let me know

P.S. Now that the '07 support hounding will be dying down, I will give you free warning, the next hounding you will receive will be "when will ATR software be released" based hounding!! Haha!! I won't lie, I'm anxious to tune this bugger myself

Thank you for all of your hard work, I hope they're paying you one hell of a salary!!

Rob@Cobb · 02-25-2011, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by zeenon53

I think the newest software was 2.40.xx, don't hold me to it. BMWNA said I don't need new software just a new pump but I want still want to make sure everything is a go.

No worries as there are no issues with the AP and the latest BMW ROMs.

A little bit of info for y'all. The ISTA version is the version of software used to diagnose and flash the cars. It's not what is being put on to the cars.

Cheers,
Rob

Pseudo Nim · 02-25-2011, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob@Cobb

No worries as there are no issues with the AP and the latest BMW ROMs.

A little bit of info for y'all. The ISTA version is the version of software used to diagnose and flash the cars. It's not what is being put on to the cars.

Cheers,
Rob

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't INPA the diagnostic software and WinKFP the flashing software?

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