[longodj]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

That person is a member here and still full of hot air. Glad to see they've kept their mouth shut.

Well then...

Boo that man!

[E82tt6]

Thanks for the update.

[Ryan@Motorwerks]

Ya the guy who posted about hacking is a dumbass and because of him the product is delayed. However in the long run it was probably for the best because it makes the sharkedit a more desireable platform which means more options and better prices for us. Definetly worth waiting another 80 days in my book...

[BMW_TT]

i can't believe some guy would post that he's gonna hack into someone else's hard work. just a shame.

thanks for the update.

[longodj]

If I'm reading the right post, he didn't claim he would hack the post, just that the opportunity is there. That's all well and good but the community SHOULD be open. What is all this IP bullshit? The fact that the hacking thought came into anyone's mind is just kind of sad...

[johnnymu]

Yah I even told him to shut the hell up but he kept on talking.

[N54YO]

Thanks for the update.

[getInline]

Originally Posted by johnnymu

Yah I even told him to shut the hell up but he kept on talking.

Well it sounds like script kiddies will be out of luck on this one. No genuinely talented cryptographer would be interested in cracking this product.

[getInline]

I have to say I like how Jim stays off the forums until he actually has something to say, rather than pumping his future release in the hopes of stealing sales away from competitors.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by longodj

Well then...

Boo that man!

Originally Posted by 335e90

Ya the guy who posted about hacking is a dumbass and because of him the product is delayed. However in the long run it was probably for the best because it makes the sharkedit a more desireable platform which means more options and better prices for us. Definetly worth waiting another 80 days in my book...

Originally Posted by BMW_TT

i can't believe some guy would post that he's gonna hack into someone else's hard work. just a shame.

thanks for the update.

Originally Posted by longodj

If I'm reading the right post, he didn't claim he would hack the post, just that the opportunity is there. That's all well and good but the community SHOULD be open. What is all this IP bullshit? The fact that the hacking thought came into anyone's mind is just kind of sad...

Fellas, who ever said it was a "he" rather than a "she". I believe it was the latter. But with the "internets" you never know.

[ezatnova]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

Fellas, who ever said it was a "he" rather than a "she". I believe it was the latter. But with the "internets" you never know.

+1 to that.
Sorry Jim had to start from square one. The reality is, he will likely lose sales now due to JB3's release this month which is a real shame. The good news is, if his product is THAT GOOD, any tune except the Dinan can be sold to recoup some costs, then go buy Jim's product.

[getInline]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

Fellas, who ever said it was a "he" rather than a "she". I believe it was the latter. But with the "internets" you never know.

You'll notice my comment was specifically gender neutral.

[smdandb2]

Originally Posted by ezatnova

+1 to that.
Sorry Jim had to start from square one. The reality is, he will likely lose sales now due to JB3's release this month which is a real shame. The good news is, if his product is THAT GOOD, any tune except the Dinan can be sold to recoup some costs, then go buy Jim's product.

Unless the JB3 is a fully programmable solution, I don't think Jim is worried.

You guys need to think outside of the box just a bit. SharkEdit isnt JUST for the N54 cars... in fact that is only one segment of his target market. SharkEdit is much larger than the JBs, SSTTs, Procedes and any other box or N54 flash.

It is a fully programmable solution for pretty much ANY 84ish+ BMW.

[Orient330iNYC]

Originally Posted by StarrDlux

dude those tools have been so hacked on other car makers. he wish he can keep hackers out of his tools.

Sorry i've seen these tools work before they are not impervious to cracking.

how do you think dinan got in the ecu?

the fact that you can run the software in a virtual machine lends itself wide open.


He'd be better off to be "hacker friendly" with a good wholesome price and no "restrictions" like mentioned above. then folks would leave him alone and he'd get more sales.

Trust me, embrace them, do not fight them. it's a losing battle.

the post that set off the 80 day delay....

[Dr_Dirt]

Originally Posted by smdandb2

Unless the JB3 is a fully programmable solution, I don't think Jim is worried.

You guys need to think outside of the box just a bit. SharkEdit isnt JUST for the N54 cars... in fact that is only one segment of his target market. SharkEdit is much larger than the JBs, SSTTs, Procedes and any other box or N54 flash.

It is a fully programmable solution for pretty much ANY 84ish+ BMW.

It's just too bad he didn't release it yet.
While the N54 isn't his only segment it will be his largest segment by far and if he has a product to release he should do it now before his would be customers spend their money elsewhere.

The clock is ticking my friend...and it should sound like Cha-Ching but right now it sounds more like Cha-Chump.

[tryangles]

You would like to think that e9x owners would have more sense and honesty than this. It's a shame this isn't out any sooner. 6 months from now though, I'm sure Jim will be singing a different tune. There's a lot more tune's to be sold...

[ezatnova]

Originally Posted by smdandb2

Unless the JB3 is a fully programmable solution, I don't think Jim is worried.

You guys need to think outside of the box just a bit. SharkEdit isnt JUST for the N54 cars... in fact that is only one segment of his target market. SharkEdit is much larger than the JBs, SSTTs, Procedes and any other box or N54 flash.

It is a fully programmable solution for pretty much ANY 84ish+ BMW.

From Jim's perspective that is pretty much true, although as a poster noted, the N54 market is a BIG chunk of that overall target market.

Any ability to comment on the progress or potential of either:
a) Jim packaging a map he's working on with the Edit so we end users can have something from the day of release?
b) release timeframe or progress of just the Injector?

If the Injector is still a good bit out, and we won't get a packaged map for the Edit from Jim (reinforcing that the Edit is a product for expert tuners to be middle-men in the usage and distribution of it), then I can see many folks, probably me included, falling into the same product purchase cycle that we saw with the WRX scene 5 years ago. Piggies got to the point of being pretty refined and good, so we bought them, then a year or so after that point solid flashes like Cobb's were out (and EASY to use...just plug it in, select what you want, and hit GO...no editing, coding, etc) so at that point we sold the piggies and got the flashes.

[oc24]

Originally Posted by smdandb2

Unless the JB3 is a fully programmable solution, I don't think Jim is worried.

You guys need to think outside of the box just a bit. SharkEdit isnt JUST for the N54 cars... in fact that is only one segment of his target market. SharkEdit is much larger than the JBs, SSTTs, Procedes and any other box or N54 flash.

It is a fully programmable solution for pretty much ANY 84ish+ BMW.

Except MSD81

[smdandb2]

Originally Posted by ezatnova

From Jim's perspective that is pretty much true, although as a poster noted, the N54 market is a BIG chunk of that overall target market.

Any ability to comment on the progress or potential of either:
a) Jim packaging a map he's working on with the Edit so we end users can have something from the day of release?
b) release timeframe or progress of just the Injector?

If the Injector is still a good bit out, and we won't get a packaged map for the Edit from Jim (reinforcing that the Edit is a product for expert tuners to be middle-men in the usage and distribution of it), then I can see many folks, probably me included, falling into the same product purchase cycle that we saw with the WRX scene 5 years ago. Piggies got to the point of being pretty refined and good, so we bought them, then a year or so after that point solid flashes like Cobb's were out (and EASY to use...just plug it in, select what you want, and hit GO...no editing, coding, etc) so at that point we sold the piggies and got the flashes.

And you just made my point. When the flash is developed and in good standing for the same price people will jump ship. Before Cobb came out with the accessport people were still buying the hardware products KNOWING a flash was on the way. This is no different.

I had the Utec when it came out and hated the terminal interface. Damn that was dumb. Then I traded it to someone who purchased a new accessport but didnt like to not be able to change any parameters. Then Cobb released StreetTuner (I think that is what it was called). Essentially what is happening here is straight to StreetTuner.

As for commenting...

a) No idea whatsoever. Personally I consider it highly unlikely considering how I know Jim. However, I think a simple base tune with slightly higher boost might be a good idea. I will talk to him the next time we speak about SharkEdit.

b) SharkEdit comes first plain and simple. Once that is done, who knows. He will be a first time father real soon, so I think that will occupy a good amount of his time for a while. One SharkEdit comes out other reputable tuners can put their flash on an Injector and sell it. At least that is my understanding on how this is going to work.

[smdandb2]

Originally Posted by slubu

Except MSD81

No MSD81... yet.

Yet is the operative word. SharkEdit needs to be finished first.

[sflgator]

All I hear are crickets. My prediction...by the time J.C's SE/SI tune is available for the N54 335i/135i/535i, the 335i will already have it's 1st major refresh in 2010.

[smdandb2]

Anything is a possibility.