[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

That’s a gnarly crash!!!

I couldn't find the full chase video they showed as the first viewer-submitted triple play on last night's "Live:PD" episode on YouTube. They spiked both passenger side tires, but the dude still kept running for miles on secondary roads into oncoming traffic. He stopped twice to get out, looked around, and then got back in to start the chase up again.

The end was at the top of an arch bridge over the Miami (OH) River, where he got out a third time with police/swat setting up behind him for the felony stop. He saw that there were no police cars in front of him on the far side of the bridge, heard the train coming, and I guess thought that he could make the ultimate escape across the grade crossing before the officers could get back into their cars and start chasing him again. Unfortunately for him, his timing was bad, and I'm guessing that his turning/stopping to avoid the collision were impaired by driving on two rims when he realized that he wasn't going to beat the train.....

[Sedan_Clan]

Gascon is out! Maybe there’s some hope for the rule of law and the protection of the citizens in L.A. County.

Trump is in! Maybe there’s some hope for the rule of law and the protection of the citizens in this country.

[Pauly Wauly]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Gascon is out! Maybe there’s some hope for the rule of law and the protection of the citizens in L.A. County.

Trump is in! Maybe there’s some hope for the rule of law and the protection of the citizens in this country.

I wish we had someone like him over here to straighten out our f%$@#*g mess.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Pauly Wauly

I wish we had someone like him over here to straighten out our f%$@#*g mess.

I feel for you guys. It took us 4 years of B.S. for the country to shift back the other way.

[Pauly Wauly]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I feel for you guys. It took us 4 years of B.S. for the country to shift back the other way.

We're in such a deep hole that I don't know how long it's going to take for us to bounce back.

I have to stop now. I don't want to get in trouble

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Gascon is out! Maybe there’s some hope for the rule of law and the protection of the citizens in L.A. County.

Trump is in! Maybe there’s some hope for the rule of law and the protection of the citizens in this country.

And 36 passed by an historic margin!

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

And 36 passed by an historic margin!

Thankfully California got that one right at least.

[JeffL0]

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[ezaircon4jc]

Sedan, hypothetical for a relative...

Who's responsible should a minor get a hold of a firearm in a home that belongs to someone other than the homeowner?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc

Sedan, hypothetical for a relative...

Who's responsible should a minor get a hold of a firearm in a home that belongs to someone other than the homeowner?

It’ll be nuanced. The questions that will be asked…

1. Was the homeowner aware the firearm was in the home? If so, what measures were implemented to safeguard that firearm?

2. Were the parents aware the firearm was in the home? Did they bring it into the home? What measures were implemented to safeguard that firearm?

3. Why was the firearm left unattended?



A home without minor children isn’t bound by requirements to store firearms in a safe.

I would tell the relative they could be partially responsible should that firearm be left unattended and a minor shoot someone or commit suicide. If they were never aware of the gun in the first place, the liability wouldn’t fall on them, but rather, the person who was responsible for bringing the gun into the home.

[ezaircon4jc]

Thanks buddy, I'll jet them know.

[Lady Jane]

[HerkHealer]

I have a Privacy question. My Neighbor recently built a small garden this summer right on his side of our property fence, he built a chicken fence structure to protect his veggies from animals, etc and put a giant Owl atop it. I thought this was to ward off birds. The other day, I noticed the Owl's head was turning and upon closer observation, noticed it's "eyes" were camera lenses! I managed to find the exact model online and will provide the link so you can see what this crazy thing can do. Essentially he's put a "spy" camera that is pointing directly into my back yard, patio, rear deck and essentially everywhere. I consider this to be invading my privacy, but not sure if I have any legal grounds to complain against it. Any help would be appreciated. The owl sits well above our shared property line and is about 2 feet back onto his side, but it's clearly pointed at my back yard, house, deck, etc.

Here is the Owl Spy Camera: https://www.dalenproducts.com/produc...42843243282688

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by HerkHealer

I have a Privacy question. My Neighbor recently built a small garden this summer right on his side of our property fence, he built a chicken fence structure to protect his veggies from animals, etc and put a giant Owl atop it. I thought this was to ward off birds. The other day, I noticed the Owl's head was turning and upon closer observation, noticed it's "eyes" were camera lenses! I managed to find the exact model online and will provide the link so you can see what this crazy thing can do. Essentially he's put a "spy" camera that is pointing directly into my back yard, patio, rear deck and essentially everywhere. I consider this to be invading my privacy, but not sure if I have any legal grounds to complain against it. Any help would be appreciated. The owl sits well above our shared property line and is about 2 feet back onto his side, but it's clearly pointed at my back yard, house, deck, etc.

Here is the Owl Spy Camera: https://www.dalenproducts.com/products/bird-watcher-hidden-camera-surveillance-owl-drone?variant=42843243282688

You have some protections under case law surrounding the curtilage of your property and the expectation of privacy in your backyard. If his camera is pointing into your backyard and is clearly surveilling the area of your home that naturally comes with a reasonable expectation of privacy, I would first address it with the neighbor. Use the “more bees with honey” approach. If that proves unsuccessful, I would contact the local agency to come talk to him about his violation of your rights. I’m sure he wouldn’t like it if you pointed a camera into his backyard.

U.S. vs. Dunn is one of the many case laws we use as reference for what is or isn’t curtilage.

[HerkHealer]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

You have some protections under case law surrounding the curtilage of your property and the expectation of privacy in your backyard. If his camera is pointing into your backyard and is clearly surveilling the area of your home that naturally comes with a reasonable expectation of privacy, I would first address it with the neighbor. Use the “more bees with honey” approach. If that proves unsuccessful, I would contact the local agency to come talk to him about his violation of your rights. I’m sure he wouldn’t like it if you pointed a camera into his backyard.

U.S. vs. Dunn is one of the many case laws we use as reference for what is or isn’t curtilage.

Sedan, thank you for the advice. Unfortunately, I dont have a relationship with this neighbor. I used to, but after they told me they have disowned their adult children and grandkids, I stopped communicating with them. It's unfortunate, but sometimes life is a challenge. I'd like to know if I should contact my local PD about this, or just build something to cover his cameras from invading my privacy.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by HerkHealer

Sedan, thank you for the advice. Unfortunately, I dont have a relationship with this neighbor. I used to, but after they told me they have disowned their adult children and grandkids, I stopped communicating with them. It's unfortunate, but sometimes life is a challenge. I'd like to know if I should contact my local PD about this, or just build something to cover his cameras from invading my privacy.

Any time! That’s what I’m here for.


It doesn’t hurt to contact your local police department. If the responding officers have a developed and articulate verbal judo, that should rectify the issue. Otherwise building something to obscure the camera’s view into your backyard would be the next step.

[Lady Jane]

Do you remember/miss the good old days of dark alley confessions?






(Maybe it's the fruity wine talking or I have too may LEOs as friends.)

[Watching The World Burn]

Originally Posted by Lady Jane

Do you remember/miss the good old days of dark alley confessions?


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(Maybe it's the fruity wine talking or I have too may LEOs as friends.)

*If* they happened, then I think society could benefit considerably from a resurgence of *alleged* dark alley confessions. At least there would be some form of punishment...

[dizz81]

Driving down to San diego the other day. There was CHP off the shoulder of the road on the opposite side of the 15. He was either clocking people going 15 South or pointing his laser gun at his driver-side mirror and clocking people going North.

Pretty sure the guns wouldn't work that way but maybe they do?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by dizz81

Driving down to San diego the other day. There was CHP off the shoulder of the road on the opposite side of the 15. He was either clocking people going 15 South or pointing his laser gun at his driver-side mirror and clocking people going North.

Pretty sure the guns wouldn't work that way but maybe they do?

Which shoulder was he on? Did you see the LIDAR gun? It’s hard to know what he was actually doing considering there are many things we could be doing in the car at any given time.

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by dizz81

Driving down to San diego the other day. There was CHP off the shoulder of the road on the opposite side of the 15. He was either clocking people going 15 South or pointing his laser gun at his driver-side mirror and clocking people going North.

Pretty sure the guns wouldn't work that way but maybe they do?

The 15 south of Temecula is one long speed trap, mainly going south as there are, as you know, long stretches of downhill.

Ever wonder why cops don't check uphill speeds...

[dizz81]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Which shoulder was he on? Did you see the LIDAR gun? It’s hard to know what he was actually doing considering there are many things we could be doing in the car at any given time.

I was heading south and he was parked on the north side behind the guard rail. He was sitting in the driver seat, with the camera gun up to his face and what looked to be pointed at his side mirror or up the hill at us coming down the south side.

Just made me wonder if those speed guns actually work if you point them at the mirror haha.