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      10-26-2010, 04:01 PM   #67
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So the N55 uses the same HPFP? In BMW's statement it shows:

2007–2010 335i models.

with no mention of the 2011 models.

I know several members on here say the 11's are having issues too?

So chances are they will not recall the 11's till the problem is more widespread? I'm just wondering why they would leave it out if it is the exact same fuel pump.
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      10-26-2010, 04:04 PM   #68
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So the N55 uses the same HPFP? In BMW's statement it shows:

2007–2010 335i models.

with no mention of the 2011 models.

I know several members on here say the 11's are having issues too?

So chances are they will not recall the 11's till the problem is more widespread? I'm just wondering why they would leave it out if it is the exact same fuel pump.
Never mind... just found this article:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=433273
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So the N55 uses the same HPFP? In BMW's statement it shows:

2007–2010 335i models.

with no mention of the 2011 models.

I know several members on here say the 11's are having issues too?

So chances are they will not recall the 11's till the problem is more widespread? I'm just wondering why they would leave it out if it is the exact same fuel pump.
N55 has the same pump, and failure has been documented. However, the expected frequency of failure is unknown whereas in the N54 there are years of data BMW has access to. Given that this announcement seems to be congruent with the procedure they've been taking this whole time for N54 pumps, I wouldn't expect any N55s to be included. Further, the class-action suit pertains to the N54 only, not the N55.
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About freaking time!
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About freaking time!
For what? This is no guaranteed solution for anything...
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      10-26-2010, 04:31 PM   #72
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jesus christ, everyone needs to stop freaking out about the recall. shit happens, things break. get over it. they are great cars and this doesn't change that. and the people abc news interviewed dont know shit about the cars, they just wanted attention on the news. my old car went into limp mode, it really wasnt that unsafe, i could still travel at speed
I'd have to disagree. I plan on leasing my first BMW this spring but prior to that I have owned a Saturn, a Chevy Blazer and two Honda Accords. All of these cars were about $20-$40k less than a 335i and none ever went into any limp mode. Even when my Blazer began having problems with the water pump at 36,000 miles (how convenient) it still ran and never put me in danger. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a $50-$60k car to have a reliable fuel pump. In fact, I think we should demand it. I don't want to pull out in front of a truck, hit the gas and go into limp mode over an issue BMW has been aware of for years. We're talking about thousands of these things being replaced - not just a few here and there.

I had been planning on getting a 335i but am not impressed with BMW's actions up to and including today's press release. The 328i is looking to be a safer choice unless BMW definitively corrects this problem.
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Mods should delete all the other threads and just make one main thread so all the info is at one area.

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Reprogramming

I'm sure it won't be long until we hear reports of those who got the fix performed having lots of lag, due to the reflashing. It's going to cause a $hitstorm on that front all over again.
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BFD, they've already been replacing them as they go anyway. I don't really consider this a big deal.
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I think the funny thing about all of this is that BMW issues a recall after 3 years of complaints with absolutely no clear cut solution. What are they going to do? Reinstall older, re-manufactured pumps and detune the cars software?

Thanks BMW for making my $50K car slower and giving me an old, used car part (I hope ABC mentions this pathetic solution tonight). Unfortunately, this problem continues with the newer N55 engines (albeit maybe not with the same frequency) and there is absolutely no mention of that in this story. I had my 335i N55 fuel pump fail at 1500 miles on the odometer with absolutely the same symptoms. If anyone has a POC at ABC and wants me to share my story with them, I will gladly do so, PM me their contact info. This makes BMW look really sh**ty to anyone that knows the full story.

At least, Kudos to ABC for tackling this issue and at least bringing it to a national spotlight!
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Wow this is great i better forward this to my dealer.... dealers have a habit of ignoring this kind of news... maybe if we all bombard them with this article... they will send out the letters soon ... thanks
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For what? This is no guaranteed solution for anything...
Not to mention the hit we'll all take to our resale values.

My car has 46K on it and the pump is original. I'd rather not fix what isn't broken.
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i watched the abc news this morning and looking at tom baloga, i see the guilt on his face from being busted by the media, just like toyota, they wait till the last minute to recall cars.
Mr. Baloga should seriously consider changing his name to Mr. Baloney. (Or if he wants to seem more Yourpe'en, Mr. Bologna). THIS is the BMWNA Chief Engineer? Hevvin help us 335i owners.
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finally.. who started first? ABC started it or BMW decided it is about time to recall and ABC did a segment for them?
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For what? This is no guaranteed solution for anything...
Yes, and that's what's so infuriating. After all this time, and being outed by ABC, all we're getting is more of the same.

I'm quickly losing all remaining respect for BMW.

Sad.
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I'd have to disagree. I plan on leasing my first BMW this spring but prior to that I have owned a Saturn, a Chevy Blazer and two Honda Accords. All of these cars were about $20-$40k less than a 335i and none ever went into any limp mode. Even when my Blazer began having problems with the water pump at 36,000 miles (how convenient) it still ran and never put me in danger. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a $50-$60k car to have a reliable fuel pump. In fact, I think we should demand it. I don't want to pull out in front of a truck, hit the gas and go into limp mode over an issue BMW has been aware of for years. We're talking about thousands of these things being replaced - not just a few here and there.

I had been planning on getting a 335i but am not impressed with BMW's actions up to and including today's press release. The 328i is looking to be a safer choice unless BMW definitively corrects this problem.
RELAX! I've had this happen on my 2007 335i and "limp mode" just makes the car less peppy (sorta like your Saturn, Blazer or Honda). You can easily keep it at highway speeds and accellerate reasonably.
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hmm.. what HPFP are they using in the N55?
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      10-26-2010, 07:19 PM   #85
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jesus christ, everyone needs to stop freaking out about the recall. shit happens, things break. get over it. they are great cars and this doesnt change that. and the people abc news interviewed dont know shit about the cars, they just wanted attention on the news. my old car went into limp mode, it really wasnt that unsafe, i could still travel at speed
Its nice that you're okay with your 50 grand car having issues in the first 10,000 miles.
BMW needs this to wake them up and stop treating their customers like kids, they have a major component in their vehicle that has a known flaw, yet they do nothing
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Ive been getting more and more disappointed in BMW... Now that I hear that driving dynamics in the 5 series are a let down from the previous 5 series, Im really wondering what my next car will be.
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RELAX! I've had this happen on my 2007 335i and "limp mode" just makes the car less peppy (sorta like your Saturn, Blazer or Honda). You can easily keep it at highway speeds and accellerate reasonably.
Not true my friend. When my pump failed I was going 75MPH in the number one lane of one of the busiest freeways in Southern California. The engine did not just loose some power, it stalled completely, no power, nothing. I had to quickly coast across 5 lanes of traffic to get to the soft shoulder. Luckily it was a Sunday otherwise I very easily could have been stranded in the middle of the freeway. Not what I would consider a safe situation to be in.
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Here's a link to the Nightline segment, basically a rehash of the GMA piece: http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/bmw-adm...ry?id=11968495
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