Tech Info: E90 330i N52 Three-Stage Intake Manifold

esbezee92 · 02-19-2007, 07:19 PM

are we taking bets on whether or not it will work right?

FinnVette · 02-19-2007, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by esbezee92

are we taking bets on whether or not it will work right?

Not Ur Avg 3 · 02-19-2007, 09:47 PM

omg thats such great news
if this works man
im gonna have a party lol
my friend with a 328i just whooped my ass, and he only has like 15 more hp than me.
if this works, and ill be getting like 50 more hp than before
ill race him again, and hell be like, hollly shitttt. lol

ksfrogman · 02-19-2007, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FinnVette

Folks, I have some good news for a change. James from Creative called me and said that I should have my programmed ECU back by Wednesday.

Cross your fingers...!

This is terrific news. Are you planning on dyno testing your car if all goes well?

esbezee92 · 02-19-2007, 10:08 PM

Great news indeed. A dyno would be great but with this large diff in hp i think a but dyno will sufice. If you dont mind my asking how much did Creative charge you and was it that much because your the first and its prototypeish, or is that just the going rate. Again good news and hope all goes well and you get it by Wed

voltron1011 · 02-20-2007, 11:28 AM

Yes, we are all anxiously awaiting!!!!

FinnVette · 02-20-2007, 01:53 PM

They gave me the $595 "holiday special" that they where running earlier on.

Dyno would be nice, but lets see if that's going to happen. To do it right, you should do before & after in the same dyno. My car is also a 4wd and I don't know how many 4wd dyno's there are in Dallas.

Anyhow let's take one step at the time. First we need to get the ECU back and the car running. Then I can at least test with my but dyno...

jonmacs22 · 02-20-2007, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FinnVette

They gave me the $595 "holiday special" that they where running earlier on.

Dyno would be nice, but lets see if that's going to happen. To do it right, you should do before & after in the same dyno. My car is also a 4wd and I don't know how many 4wd dyno's there are in Dallas.

Anyhow let's take one step at the time. First we need to get the ECU back and the car running. Then I can at least test with my but dyno...

Can you please provide a recap of exactly what they are doing, what parts have been swapped or replaced, and what the expectations are.

Many thanks.

voltron1011 · 02-20-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FinnVette

They gave me the $595 "holiday special" that they where running earlier on.

My car is also a 4wd and I don't know how many 4wd dyno's there are in Dallas.

You should be able to pull the fuse on the X-drive and it will be only rear-wheel drive (for dynoing purposes)... Don't quote me on that, but that's how they used to dyno Skyline GTR's and they have the same type of AWD system. Since X-Drive uses computer controlled clutches, it defaults to RWD when there is no power to it.

F32Fleet · 02-20-2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FinnVette

Steptronics are the same in both cars. 325i also has a tad shorter gearing so you will accelerate faster than 330i with similar mods, at least in theory.

In the US, the A/T's in the 325 are built by GM France, the 330's are ZF.

FinnVette · 02-20-2007, 04:05 PM

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In the US, the A/T's in the 325 are built by GM France, the 330's are ZF.

Well, I'm not going to start argue about this. But what I have read, 325 and 330 share the same GM gearbox. 335 has ZF.

FinnVette · 02-20-2007, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jonmacs22

Can you please provide a recap of exactly what they are doing, what parts have been swapped or replaced, and what the expectations are.

Many thanks.

Creative / Evotech is just programming the ECU. I have changed the intake manifold to 330i version my self.

jonmacs22 · 02-20-2007, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FinnVette

Creative / Evotech is just programming the ECU. I have changed the intake manifold to 330i version my self.

intake manifold including the installation of DISA motors not previously installed on your car, correct?

FinnVette · 02-20-2007, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jonmacs22

intake manifold including the installation of DISA motors not previously installed on your car, correct?

Correct.

voltron1011 · 02-20-2007, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jonmacs22

intake manifold including the installation of DISA motors not previously installed on your car, correct?

Well, the DISA motors are already on the manifold in question.

FinnVette · 02-20-2007, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by voltron1011

You should be able to pull the fuse on the X-drive and it will be only rear-wheel drive (for dynoing purposes)... Don't quote me on that, but that's how they used to dyno Skyline GTR's and they have the same type of AWD system. Since X-Drive uses computer controlled clutches, it defaults to RWD when there is no power to it.

Well, I don't know anything about Skyline's but I know some people have done that with Haldex based Audi Quattro's as well. However I'm not comfortable doing that with my own car, because the drive shaft from tranny to the "X-Drive clutch" would be spinning with very high speed where as front drive shafts are still...

F32Fleet · 02-20-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FinnVette

Well, I'm not going to start argue about this. But what I have read, 325 and 330 share the same GM gearbox. 335 has ZF.

No arguement. I'm 100% correct. 325/328 use GM France Tranny's just like the E46 323/325. The 330/335 use a ZF built transmission (not same transmission, but same manufacturer). It's applicable to this discussion because people are ASSUMING the bump in power can be handled by the transmission of the 325 because it's the same transmission as the 330. That is an incorrect assumption.

sevey · 02-20-2007, 06:05 PM

Guys, there are a few of us in oz that are crossing our fingers on this one as well....good luck!

FinnVette · 02-20-2007, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Socom

No arguement. I'm 100% correct. 325/328 use GM France Tranny's just like the E46 323/325. The 330/335 use a ZF built transmission (not same transmission, but same manufacturer). It's applicable to this discussion because people are ASSUMING the bump in power can be handled by the transmission of the 325 because it's the same transmission as the 330. That is an incorrect assumption.

Hmmm...

I made a quick comparison in realOEM.com and it looks to me that 325i and 330i are sharing the same tranny. However the torque converter seems to be different, probably because 325i and 330i have different gear ratios in their differentials ?

Here's two links to realOEM.com

325i
http://************/27lutf

330i
http://************/yph8j2

Please see also JD's post #33 in this thread.

FinnVette · 02-20-2007, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sevey

Guys, there are a few of us in oz that are crossing our fingers on this one as well....good luck!

Thanks!

Not Ur Avg 3 · 02-20-2007, 10:20 PM

isnt tomarrow the big day?
u gotta put that chip the second it arrives to ur house lol.
and have a labtop ready to post results
hell if it works man, im gonna go and find u tomarrow to see if its foreal lol

evoi19 · 02-20-2007, 10:38 PM

We're all so anxious...just put a webcam on your computer and broadcast the whole thing. I'll be waiting with popcorn.

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Not Ur Avg 3 Lieutenant Colonel 33 Rep 1,866 Posts Drives: 06' 325i Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (3) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00]	omg thats such great news if this works man im gonna have a party lol my friend with a 328i just whooped my ass, and he only has like 15 more hp than me. if this works, and ill be getting like 50 more hp than before ill race him again, and hell be like, hollly shitttt. lol __________________ Perfection In The Making...
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esbezee92 Lieutenant 8 Rep 499 Posts Drives: Montego 328i Coupe Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: SoCal iTrader: (1)	Great news indeed. A dyno would be great but with this large diff in hp i think a but dyno will sufice. If you dont mind my asking how much did Creative charge you and was it that much because your the first and its prototypeish, or is that just the going rate. Again good news and hope all goes well and you get it by Wed
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FinnVette Private 2 Rep 80 Posts Drives: 325xit & Corvette C6 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 150 miles south of Arctic Circle iTrader: (0)	They gave me the $595 "holiday special" that they where running earlier on. Dyno would be nice, but lets see if that's going to happen. To do it right, you should do before & after in the same dyno. My car is also a 4wd and I don't know how many 4wd dyno's there are in Dallas. Anyhow let's take one step at the time. First we need to get the ECU back and the car running. Then I can at least test with my but dyno...
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evoi19 Lieutenant General 1700 Rep 17,446 Posts Drives: 2022 G80C Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (18)	We're all so anxious...just put a webcam on your computer and broadcast the whole thing. I'll be waiting with popcorn.
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