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      12-30-2014, 06:43 PM   #67
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Wow that's an impressive dyno what are the details of the setup?
FBO, no meth, E50-E60 and "0" timing corrections at WOT gear to gear

A dyno only tells half the facts, how the car performs on the road is another story. Here is another customer's log 335is FBO "no meth" E50-E60

Damn. That's pretty.
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Wow that's amazing! Now I know what my next mod will be after getting my downpipes on since I have 92 octane also.

Do you know what the max boost was for the run?

I'm guessing but its usually 19.2 psi at peak
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request for payment invoice to be sent at wedgeperformance@gmail.com
You can do it? How much do you want?
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      12-30-2014, 08:23 PM   #70
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Ladies and Gentle men -


368 whp & 438 wtq

+27 whp & 43 wtq over my last setup not to mention the buttery smooth power on, throttle response and rock solid AFRs. Really though, the delivery makes it feel completely different from behind the wheel. The car is currently making more power at 6500 rpm than it did at peak with the previous tune. LOL


Lets keep in mind that my only other power mods are a DCI. This is on chevron pump 92 oct.


I'll post the log and video to go with this dyno pull later on tonight.
Hey Nick, I think you forgot to mention this is just our base map. The fact that we haven't really started tuning your car yet goes to show you how under powered piggy tunes really are. I think the damage control posts on the other tech forum is a clear indication they finally received the wake up call...

BTW, if anyone did read the comments, we have been denied by COBB 3x. Apparently they don't want our $6000 that we were willing to pay for Access Tuner Pro at one time. Fortunately we don't need it anymore and they would need to provide a substantial discount to get us to pay for it today.

I'm sure we'll get negative comments from other tuners and fan boyz as they are feeling more threatened by our presence considering we have repeatedly out performed them in power and consistency not to mention fixed a few issues they said were not fixable. One of them set a 1/4 Mile World Record. Funny how the numbers don't lie... especially when we back them up with logs.
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You can do it? How much do you want?
We can make 370 whp yes of course, hp doesnt make torque, torque makes hp, so your always going to have a greater amount torque than horsepower on the lower - mid RPMs .

This platform is a all about torque, IMO, thats what makes it fun and enjoyable to drive.
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We can make 370 whp yes of course, hp doesnt make torque, torque makes hp, so your always going to have a greater amount torque than horsepower on the lower - mid RPMs .

This platform is a all about torque, IMO, thats what makes it fun and enjoyable to drive.
Can HP be higher during the higher end RPMs?

What I don't like is that feeling of power dropping as you go higher in the RPM range.

And not trying to be a smart mouth or anything here, and I know it's a Ferrari or a McLaren, but the P1 and the California T are able to do this. I know the P1 has a hybrid powertrain but I don't think the California T does.

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Can HP be higher during the higher end RPMs?

What I don't like is that feeling of power dropping as you go higher in the RPM range.

And not trying to be a smart mouth or anything here, and I know it's a Ferrari or a McLaren, but the P1 and the California T are able to do this. I know the P1 has a hybrid powertrain but I don't think the California T does.

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Thats the nature of the stock snails.....anyhow, it is doable, from what it sounds like you want power to always climb to 6k+ RPM @ 370 whp ?. Not going to happen on pump gas, IMO.
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Great thread...coming from Subaru and using a Cobb with a custom tune, I always wondered why when I went to BMWs everyone always had a hard on for piggy backs while the flexibility from open source opened up the real power.

PM coming your way, Wedge.
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      12-30-2014, 09:53 PM   #75
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I'm a bit late to the party... is there a fundamental difference between the way Wedge tunes and PTF tunes?
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Can HP be higher during the higher end RPMs?

What I don't like is that feeling of power dropping as you go higher in the RPM range.

And not trying to be a smart mouth or anything here, and I know it's a Ferrari or a McLaren, but the P1 and the California T are able to do this. I know the P1 has a hybrid powertrain but I don't think the California T does.

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The N54 on stock turbos has at least 3K RPM's worth of pull to it, not too far off from other engines. Just because it's starts at a lower rpm and ends at a lower rpm doesn't mean it doesn't have a respectable powerband.
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Hey Nick, I think you forgot to mention this is just our base map. The fact that we haven't really started tuning your car yet goes to show you how under powered piggy tunes really are.
Oh yeah! Duh, didnt mention that at all! Thank you sir!


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I'm a bit late to the party... is there a fundamental difference between the way Wedge tunes and PTF tunes?
I believe our approach to the DME is different, tuning and concept wise in the way we manipulate the DME to achieve a particular goal.
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A wake up call? Get off your own nuts Ken. You' guys need to start backing all this talk up at the 1/2 mile roll race events. I've been to the last 2 in CA and AZ running every other bimmer I could along with BMS crew, where have you guys been? OP you ran map 5 on 92 octane? Per BMS You're not even supposed to run more than map 2 on 93 octane 14.5 psi.... Your logs I'm sure look like crap running map 5 on 92 octane and I'm sure drove like crap too. What's so new about a flash making more power on pump gas than a piggy back? Last I checked this has been a known fact for a long while flash tuning can run more boost on less octane.



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Hey Nick, I think you forgot to mention this is just our base map. The fact that we haven't really started tuning your car yet goes to show you how under powered piggy tunes really are. I think the damage control posts on the other tech forum is a clear indication they finally received the wake up call...

BTW, if anyone did read the comments, we have been denied by COBB 3x. Apparently they don't want our $6000 that we were willing to pay for Access Tuner Pro at one time. Fortunately we don't need it anymore and they would need to provide a substantial discount to get us to pay for it today.

I'm sure we'll get negative comments from other tuners and fan boyz as they are feeling more threatened by our presence considering we have repeatedly out performed them in power and consistency not to mention fixed a few issues they said were not fixable. One of them set a 1/4 Mile World Record. Funny how the numbers don't lie... especially when we back them up with logs.
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Like this ?



There is enough throttle / torque response than to know what to do with
Is this the Godzilla map?
Do you have a SAE corrected graph?
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Hey Nick, I think you forgot to mention this is just our base map. The fact that we haven't really started tuning your car yet goes to show you how under powered piggy tunes really are. I think the damage control posts on the other tech forum is a clear indication they finally received the wake up call...

BTW, if anyone did read the comments, we have been denied by COBB 3x. Apparently they don't want our $6000 that we were willing to pay for Access Tuner Pro at one time. Fortunately we don't need it anymore and they would need to provide a substantial discount to get us to pay for it today.

I'm sure we'll get negative comments from other tuners and fan boyz as they are feeling more threatened by our presence considering we have repeatedly out performed them in power and consistency not to mention fixed a few issues they said were not fixable. One of them set a 1/4 Mile World Record. Funny how the numbers don't lie... especially when we back them up with logs.
WedgePerformance BuraQ can DME be reflashed with K+DCan cable? What do i need for a reflash?

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Going to dyno this beast today! I'm so curious to see the comparison to my JB4 dyno.

Two things are different -
1. Wedge Tune

2. Walnut Blasted



Here is the dyno sheet for comparing. Specs and Mods :
BMS DCI
JB4 G5 ISO
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92 oct

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Just for comparison my buddies 07' E92 335i with only a JB4 map 5 no back end flash, DCI and E40 made 419/426 at EAS with a 1/4 mile of 12.6 @114. E40 is a few octane more than your 92 but that's not enough to make up a 80hp difference.
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Ladies and Gentle men -


368 whp & 438 wtq

+27 whp & 43 wtq over my last setup not to mention the buttery smooth power on, throttle response and rock solid AFRs. Really though, the delivery makes it feel completely different from behind the wheel. The car is currently making more power at 6500 rpm than it did at peak with the previous tune. LOL


Lets keep in mind that my only other power mods are a DCI. This is on chevron pump 92 oct.





I'll post the log and video to go with this dyno pull later on tonight.
Solid increase from your prior dyno. Do you not have E85 available where you live?
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What's so new about a flash making more power on pump gas than a piggy back? Last I checked this has been a known fact for a long while flash tuning can run more boost on less octane.
If it was a known "fact" how did he end up with a piggyback then ? His story will be similar to any new comer, they were alienated to believe the piggyback is the latest and greatest thing for the N54 yada yada.

Its only a known "fact" to us old schoolers that's been around a long time when progress was being made.

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Just for comparison my buddies 07' E92 335i with only a JB4 map 5 no back end flash, DCI and E40 made 419/426 at EAS with a 1/4 mile of 12.6 @114. E40 is a few octane more than your 92 but that's not enough to make up a 80hp difference.
Well, E40 is a huge difference. I was running E40 when I set the Stock Turbo record, granted I was praying meth, but not for octane.

And yes, he does have access to E85, but I'm not sure what his upgrade path will be and if it will include E85 due to limited access. Portland only has two pumps that I'm aware of.
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Is this the Godzilla map?
Do you have a SAE corrected graph?
Its an offshoot of the Godzilla map for a DCT 335i, not DCT 335is, in a another country with mostly hot climate.

I never saw the SAE graph, but was told it was 411 whp JB4 + stack vs 435 whp our tuning which was done in the hotter climate
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Well, E40 is a huge difference. I was running E40 when I set the Stock Turbo record, granted I was praying meth, but not for octane.
If the OP was running 96-97 octane would he make 400+rw?
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WedgePerformance BuraQ can DME be reflashed with K+DCan cable? What do i need for a reflash?
Currently no. You can only use that cable for recovery using WinKFP at this time. But keep tuned in for new developments next year.
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